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Posted by LionsLair on May-16-2008 02:27:

25 Track Mix Competition! (tech house/deep house/minimal techno/techno)

This might be logistically hard, but I was thinking we should do a mix competition, where we have a set of 25 tracks to choose from to do a mix that will fit on a CD. Everyone that participates in the competition has to work around the limitations of those 25 tracks to craft a great mix. We can start a pool for those 25 tracks. It should be fun

Note : 25 Track Pool/65-80 minutes /You Dont have to squeeze in all 25 /2 Wildcard Tracks

Has anyone done this before? What do you guys think.


DJ List

Alzalam
Lions Lair
Pudelko
Nefardac(tba)

Temp Track Pool

Fairmont - Fade and Saturate [Border Community]
Apparat - Arcadia (Telefon Tel Aviv Remix) [Shitkatapult]


Posted by alzalam on May-16-2008 02:52:

I think it is a solid idea, except it may be more interesting to only offer a pool of 12-15 tunes, that way it will really showcase how different people choose to mix the same tunes


Posted by LionsLair on May-16-2008 02:53:

Also, you can use 2 tracks that arent in the 20-25 pool to flip things up a bit.


Posted by LionsLair on May-16-2008 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by alzalam
I think it is a solid idea, except it may be more interesting to only offer a pool of 12-15 tunes, that way it will really showcase how different people choose to mix the same tunes


Yah personally I wouldnt mind like 15 track limitation, but It would be good to hear a bit of a deviation in the different mixes. I think 20-25 tracks will tie the hands enough but allow enough space to differentiate more between the mixes. 2 track wildcard would also make it a bit more fun, secret weapons

Maybe next time we can lower the limit to a 15 track pool, and 1 track wildcard. For now 20-25 tracks, crafted to fit a 80 minute CD.


Posted by alzalam on May-16-2008 03:47:

Rasta

well, count me in. i have been dying to record an all deep house / tech house mix for some time now.


Posted by Pudelko on May-16-2008 04:01:

This sounds fun! How will the tracks be chosen? will they be free releases (beatport promos maybe?) so everyone is able to download them?


Posted by nefardec on May-16-2008 04:05:

these mixes are boring. the only reason i listen to mixes is to hear tracks i've never heard and to appreciate someone else's unique tastes.

also,

25 tracks in 80 minutes are too many. I usually play about 17-18 and that is a lot.


furthermore- beatport promos in general are terrible. i don't see how anything worthwhile can come of this beyond a little ego boost from internet friends


Posted by LionsLair on May-16-2008 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by alzalam
well, count me in. i have been dying to record an all deep house / tech house mix for some time now.


Whoever joins in, feel free to throw in 5 tracks into the pool that YOU would like to be part of the pool. Dont worry about the haters not liking them. We need to start building up a pool of potential tracks to use. Make sure these tracks are accessible through Beatport so that everyone can get a hold of the tracks to participate. They can be tracks from as far back as 1969 if you want, there is no requirement that they have to be super new.

Alzalam, Post up your 5

Also...innocent bystanders can post tracks they'd like to see in the competition even if they arent participating. Man...this is going to be hard to pull off.


Posted by alzalam on May-16-2008 04:09:

quote:
25 tracks in 80 minutes are too many. I usually play about 17-18 and that is a lot.


I don't think you have to play all 25 - part of the fun is seeing what / how people choose to play out of the pool


Posted by LionsLair on May-16-2008 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
these mixes are boring. the only reason i listen to mixes is to hear tracks i've never heard and to appreciate someone else's unique tastes.

also,

25 tracks in 80 minutes are too many. I usually play about 17-18 and that is a lot.


Well thats why you have the hundreds of other mixes posted here for just that. This is a competition, for showing mixing, programming, track selection skills. I dont see how that is boring, when you have a bunch of people with the similar tools trying to craft their own unique boat.

Its a 25 track POOL, of which you have to cut down into a mix that will fit on a 80 minute CD. You can use all 25, if thats your style. Or you can only use like 12-17 of them, depending on how you mix and program. You do not have to squeeze 25 tracks into 80 minutes, not at all. You dont even have to use the whole 80 minutes...minimum 65 and maximum is 80.


Posted by nefardec on May-16-2008 04:12:

mm ok that makes more sense.

i'll have to wait to see what the tracks are. like i said I try to dig pretty deeply and I think that is the mark of a better deejay.

beatmatching/etc is cake


Posted by LionsLair on May-16-2008 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
mm ok that makes more sense.

i'll have to wait to see what the tracks are. like i said I try to dig pretty deeply and I think that is the mark of a better deejay.

beatmatching/etc is cake


I guess this is more of competition in the compilation type environment.

Small pool of tracks, how the same two tracks used by 2 different DJ's are mixed or placed might be different between one DJ and another.

If we have 5 DJ's partcipate, each will have their 5 chosen tracks as part of the mix, and we'll work from there. If we have 10 DJ's participate, then we will have to cut the 50 tracks down to 25, with a minimum of 2 tracks from each DJ(chosen by the DJ) showing up giving us 20, and the remaining 5 chosen as a group. So it might take some time to get the logistics down, but it should be fun if it actually goes down.


Posted by LionsLair on May-16-2008 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Pudelko
This sounds fun! How will the tracks be chosen? will they be free releases (beatport promos maybe?) so everyone is able to download them?


They dont have to be Beatport promos, but yes Beatport promos would be a good avenue to choose tracks from. Recently got Telefon Tel Aviv remix of a Apparat - Arcadia from a Beatport promo. Also Fairmont - Fade and Sature. So we can start by including those two as possible choices to get the ball rolling. Super new tracks might be harder to include because not everyone has accumulated the newest tracks, so 2005/2006/2007 tracks are more than welcome.


Posted by Clovis on May-16-2008 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
mm ok that makes more sense.

i'll have to wait to see what the tracks are. like i said I try to dig pretty deeply and I think that is the mark of a better deejay.

beatmatching/etc is cake



+1

This is basically "how well do you put other people's music in order"?


Posted by elFreak on May-16-2008 19:48:

beatmatching is not that hard it is myth...play your own shit, thats hard.


Posted by LionsLair on May-17-2008 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
+1

This is basically "how well do you put other people's music in order"?


well since your programming skills could use some work, maybe you should partake in this to practice.


Posted by LionsLair on May-17-2008 03:53:

^sickburn? lol


Posted by Ted Promo on May-17-2008 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
well since your programming skills could use some work, maybe you should partake in this to practice.


I can already forsee great things with this thread.


Posted by LionsLair on May-17-2008 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
I can already forsee great things with this thread.


I doubt it, but we'll see. Hopefully the competition actually happens, seems logistically hard to execute


Posted by Ted Promo on May-17-2008 04:52:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
I doubt it, but we'll see. Hopefully the competition actually happens, seems logistically hard to execute


please define your parameters of logistics regarding the full, and comprehensive completion of a satisfactory set competition. A blueprint would be preferred. And please do all of this on your PS3 Jesus Christ Edition bundled with Metal Gear Solid.


Posted by Clovis on May-17-2008 04:58:

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
well since your programming skills could use some work, maybe you should partake in this to practice.



Problem is, I like to practice with my own music.


Posted by LionsLair on May-17-2008 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
please define your parameters of logistics regarding the full, and comprehensive completion of a satisfactory set competition. A blueprint would be preferred. And please do all of this on your PS3 Jesus Christ Edition bundled with Metal Gear Solid.



Posted by LionsLair on May-17-2008 05:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Problem is, I like to practice with my own music.


Well its much easier to program when you have a wide range of music to choose from. When a DJ only has 25 tracks to choose from it gets a bit more difficult, a bit more interesting to see the craft in play. I guess thats where this competition's value is, anyone can program a decent mix from a pool of 100 or 1000 tracks like many of us have access to. From a pool of 25 tracks of which many are not chosen by the DJ kinda seperates the men from the boys in the area of programming. I'd expect confident DJ's to recognize this, and step up to the plate. Im sure people are interested in the competition, but like Nefardac said, the 25 tracks need to be decided first before things really get rolling. Which is something I dont have complete control over, and need others to help push that front of the competition.



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