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Posted by The_Groove on May-16-2002 22:04:

Amp/Speakers (Not on a budget)

Well, the question has been posed as to what cheap speakers to buy, but what if you want something with a little power? I have no idea what brands of amp/speaker are good/reliable etc. I am looking for pro speakers (not home audio) that can be put on stands and an amp that can power them without any fear of overheating etc..

Thanks for any help or suggestions, I just really don't know where to start. I really am not on a budget, but I doubt I can afford the absolute top of the line equipment.

Posted by hapamoto on May-16-2002 22:56:

i just picked up a Gemini XPB-1600 amp and sooner or later (when i can afford them) im gonna buy my friend's Gemini GSM-3200 speakers.. they put out about 600watts each and the amp can more than handle that.. i haven't heard the sound but if you can't afford to buy some Mackie or Cerwin Vega speakers, u might want to look into gemini, not like you need some professional club system.. unless you are.. but i've seen the speakers for about $550 a pair and the amp is about $450..

Posted by j_spot on May-17-2002 07:02:

just buy the JBL Eon G2 15
they should be enough. And they are active, so you dont need an amp

Posted by Lanithium on May-17-2002 07:16:

the mackie srm450's are better and cheaper than the jbl eon g2 15.

i have them and they kickarse over alot of other so called 'powered' speakers

Posted by j_spot on May-17-2002 07:33:

the mackies are nicer yes...but they tend to go thermal...and then you have bookends

Posted by DJ Darchinova on May-17-2002 07:34:

I have tested both speakers the two guys before me mentioned. Both in party situations, and it turns out i liked the Makie SRM-450's better. You can pump these A LOT more without a JBL warning light coming on. These Mackies also provide higher souynd quality.. they also more compact (still big though). But if these weren't on the market, next choice would BE the Eon G2's.

If i was you, i would choose the SRM-450's over the Eon G2's as they are around the same price. Both are definately worth your money but the Mackies take your dollar further...

Posted by j_spot on May-17-2002 21:19:

even though the mackies sell for more, (hence more for the comission) Ive been urged to go fro the 15 G2, simply because of their venting.

Have you heard of the mackies going thermal?

Posted by DennisF on May-20-2002 18:22:

JBL Speakers all the way!!

Posted by The_Groove on May-21-2002 19:40:

JBL?

That's what I first was going to buy, but I was turned off by many people. They say JBLs either overheat or sounds like crap. Why JBL?

Posted by DennisF on May-21-2002 19:59:

you wanna know why JBL? ok .....last summer i was on crete, great party island!!! and all the clubs there had JBLs. and it was amazing!!! i have JBLs too at my home, they are just great!

Posted by The_Groove on May-21-2002 20:48:

Thank you

Thanks for backing it up! I will be checking into the Mackies and JBLs. Now what about an amp to power this stuff?

Posted by j_spot on May-22-2002 04:45:

thats the joy of Active speakers, you dont use an amp. you run straight from the line out into the speaker itself.

and the JBL G2 Speakers WILL NOT over heat...unless you crank em full volume for like 20 hours.(at which point you will be VERY deaf)

the mackies will over heat tho.
The reason the JBLs wont is that while the sub is pushing air out, venting in the front of the speaker takes that very same air and uses it to cool itself

Posted by Gluegun on May-22-2002 07:03:

Someone uses jbl's at home...?

Um, I understand how you all are all 'woohoo' over these PA speakers and stuff, and I understand that...

..but just cause some company has great public adress and musician's speakers doesn't mean that their hi fi or home theater speakers are up to par, you know? PA speakers and Home speakers are two INCREDIBLY different worlds, and I would never buy home speakers on the basis of excellence in P.A....

Posted by Lanithium on May-22-2002 08:37:

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
thats the joy of Active speakers, you dont use an amp. you run straight from the line out into the speaker itself.

and the JBL G2 Speakers WILL NOT over heat...unless you crank em full volume for like 20 hours.(at which point you will be VERY deaf)

the mackies will over heat tho.
The reason the JBLs wont is that while the sub is pushing air out, venting in the front of the speaker takes that very same air and uses it to cool itself

my mackies have never overheated, and being in one of the warmer countries in the world (australia) i'd say thats pretty decent. And i crank em for hours and hours.. never had a single problem with them.

i tested the jbl eon 15 and g2's in store (cranked em) and i thought they were pretty poor for the price, was pretty dissapointed.

Posted by Lanithium on May-22-2002 08:38:

Re: Thank you

quote:
Originally posted by The_Groove
Thanks for backing it up! I will be checking into the Mackies and JBLs. Now what about an amp to power this stuff?

you wont need an amp with either the mackie or jbl's (unless u want to for some unknown reason)..

Posted by Lanithium on May-22-2002 08:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Stiffmaster
you wanna know why JBL? ok .....last summer i was on crete, great party island!!! and all the clubs there had JBLs. and it was amazing!!! i have JBLs too at my home, they are just great!

of course the speakers in clubs are gonna sound amazing, but they cost a fucking shitload. nothing you'd wanna waste you money on just for a home setup.. unless you like having your walls crumbling down and windows shattered.. :|

Posted by The_Groove on May-28-2002 18:25:

Mackie SRM450

Got one! Getting the other this week (once the deposit goes through)

Thank you for your help. I love it!

Posted by j_spot on May-28-2002 23:56:

they are great speakers....just watch them so that they dont go thermal on you

Posted by skywarp on May-29-2002 00:13:

Why in the world would you need a 300w active monitor for home use ?! You'll probably be driving it at 10% power most of the time anyway, so why not just save a lot of money and get regular home stereo speakers. Or if you have money to burn, studio monitors. JBLs and Mackies are overkill for a bedroom DJ.

Posted by j_spot on May-29-2002 00:21:

im looking @ a set of G2 10s, because, yes I will be using them on low power most of the time, BUT then say I wanna go have a party I can use em for the speakers.

Posted by Special_K on May-29-2002 02:10:

How do active speakers work? do you just plug the mixer directly into the speakers? Do active speakers usually cost more?

Posted by Gluegun on May-29-2002 02:14:

Active speakers are speakers that include their own integrated amplifier. This means that, somewhere in the speaker, they have an amp, to make the speakers loud, and a preamp, so you can set the volume of the speakers. This saves space in situations such as for studio monitoring, and for PA systems, as it is one less component to deal with. Few hi fi systems use this, though some do, as it is less flexible for maximum sound quality... but it is very simple, as you can plug these speakers into any line level analog output...