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The Troof Movement Part Deux.....
and once I respected the man......
these people are just going crazy.....
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It's never, ever Bill or Hillary's fault: Bill Clinton says Obama will lose if he's the nominee, and this fact is being "covered up" by some vast, left-wing conspiracy.. (CNN) � Former President Bill Clinton said that Democrats were more likely to lose in November if his wife Hillary Clinton is not the party�s presidential nominee, and suggested some people were trying to �cover this up� and �push and pressure and bully� superdelegates to make up their minds prematurely. "I can�t believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out,� he said at a South Dakota campaign stop Sunday, in remarks first reported by ABC News. �'Oh, this is so terrible: The people they want her. Oh, this is so terrible: She is winning the general election, and he is not. Oh my goodness, we have to cover this up.'" The former president added that his wife had not been given the respect she deserved as a legitimate presidential candidate. "She is winning the general election today and he is not, according to all the evidence,� he said. �And I have never seen anything like it. I have never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running.� �Her only position was, �Look, if I lose I'll be a good team player. We will all try to win � but let's let everybody vote, and count every vote,�" he said. The former president suggested that if the New York senator ended the primary season with an edge in the popular vote, it would be a significant development. "If you vote for her and she does well in Montana and she does well in Puerto Rico, when this is over she will be ahead in the popular vote,� said Clinton. �And they're trying to get her to cry uncle before the Democratic Party has to decide what to do in Florida and Michigan� � which the party would need to do �unless we want to lose the election. " The current requirement to claim the Democratic presidential nomination is 2,026 delegates, a formula that does not take into account delegates from Florida and Michigan, whose contests were not sanctioned by the party � although if those votes were to be counted as cast, Hillary Clinton would still currently trail rival Barack Obama in the overall delegate count. The former president said Sunday that the media had unfairly attacked his wife since the Iowa caucuses, repeating an often-used charge that press coverage had made him feel as though he were living in a �fun house.� "If you notice, there hasn't been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about,� he said. �It is the first time you've heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think? Don't you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the Electoral College against Senator McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station?� He added, �You would know it wouldn't you? It wouldn't be a little secret. And there is another Electoral College poll that I saw yesterday had her over 300 electoral votes�. She will win the general election if you nominate her. They're just trying to make sure you don't." |
I don't know what Bill is talking about, because this is the map I've seen:
Source: Survey USA
SUSA has had the best track record in polling this election cycle. That map is from about a month ago, so add to that Obama's current polling lead in NJ, PA, MT, and NC... and that's a pretty solid-looking electoral map.
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I don't know what Bill is talking about, because this is the map I've seen: Source: Survey USA SUSA has had the best track record in polling this election cycle. That map is from about a month ago, so add to that Obama's current polling lead in NJ, PA, MT, and NC... and that's a pretty solid-looking electoral map. |
Yeah, I think the odds of Obama winning Virginia are slim to none. Even Clinton couldn't carry Virginia in 92 or 96, and the state hasn't been won by a Democrat since Truman in 1948. Virginia in McCain's column is enough to give him the election without Ohio, 271 to 267. And although the the normally intelligent people of Ohio voted for that idiot Clinton in both of those elections Obama's chances of winning there don't look good. Bush won the state in both of the last two elections and in the democratic primaries Clinton came out on top. With Hillary threatening to take the nomination fight all the way to the convention I think she will deep six Obama in Ohio as well. The loss of either of those states will cost Obama the election (unless something crazy happens like he wins Texas or Florida) and my prediction is he loses both giving McCain 291 to Obama's 247. If Hillary loses her next Senate election McCain should appoint her to some position in his government, right now she is one of this greatest allies.
And it is nice to hear Bill and Hillary whining about a left wing conspiracy for a change lol
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