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ATTN: computer savy folks--need your help

just whipped my hd clean and reinstalled xp pro on it and can't get the damn drivers to install.

I gots an IBM ThinkPad r51. I downloaded the latest drivers from IBM's support site especially the network drivers so can get the slugger going to update the other needed drivers.(i'm using another pc to download->transfer on usb stick->plug and install)

When the drive executable is launched, the show runs like it's suppossed to, I've done it before; only thing now is that even after I install the new drivers, the drivers aren't detected by windows even though they exist physically on the drive, let alone IBM install software.

what am I doing wrong? It's getting really frustrating as I've been picking my brain for 2 days and still can't figure out what the eff I'm doing wrong this time, or why aren't the drivers installing or benig recognized as being there. And no I still can not use my network card to connect this brick to the net.

All help is appreciates, I thank you all in advance.

Al.

Right click on the My Computer icon then click on Manage. Look through the event viewer for any errors. That might give you a clue as to what is going wrong.

Can't help with your immediate problem, but it always helps to keep a collection of drivers that you know work on a CD backup disk so when you do a system sweep you can just pop it in and install everything right away.

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Originally posted by Project-K Can't help with your immediate problem, but it always helps to keep a collection of drivers that you know work on a CD backup disk so when you do a system sweep you can just pop it in and install everything right away.

I made a CD like that, I know what your talking about.


My only concern was only they got new updates that might not work with the bios upgrades I had done with the previous swip.

You may want to try Unknown Device Identifier and see if it can give you the device info and then you google your drivers not having to go thru IBM. Also instead of updated drivers see if you can search IBM's support site for original drivers and not any updated ones. They should be good enough to at least get you online to get the rest of the drivers on there.

http://www.zhangduo.com/udi.html

did you do all the updates for XP first?

You will need to install all updates for XP (i.e. service packs + critical updates) then the drivers for the IBM do to the fact that the drivers are not always backwards compatible.

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Originally posted by BLOWZO did you do all the updates for XP first? You will need to install all updates for XP (i.e. service packs + critical updates) then the drivers for the IBM do to the fact that the drivers are not always backwards compatible.

I can't install the new updates because I can't connect the slugger and to find the ones I need, it'll take way too much time and there's tones of them ever since I got the XP license.

I'm afraid to flush the BIOS.

Update....I used IBM's installer to get all the drivers except the modem and network to work. Still holding up on those 2....emailed IBM also.

Just download SP3 from your other PC. I believe MS offers a package install that you could move over on your thumbdrive. That should take care of all updates heretofore.

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Originally posted by BLOWZO did you do all the updates for XP first? You will need to install all updates for XP (i.e. service packs + critical updates) then the drivers for the IBM do to the fact that the drivers are not always backwards compatible.

Umm..WRONG. Please refrain from giving advice on things you are clueless about. A driver that says "WinXP" is compatible with ALL service pack versions of it. Why? Because the OS itself has not changed the driver structure, the interfacing method between the devices, and the way in which drivers work for that OS.

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty Just download SP3 from your other PC. I believe MS offers a package install that you could move over on your thumbdrive. That should take care of all updates heretofore.

Yep, here it is. Have fun!

Also, the reason your driver isn't installing, is due to the fact that the IBM Installer, just extracts the driver. You need to right click on my computer and click manage. Click "Device Manager". Find the network card in the "?" marked devices, and right click and click "update driver". Then click install from a list or specific location, then click browse and navigate to the location the driver was extracted to. This should solve your problem, and then you may run windows update.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Also, the reason your driver isn't installing, is due to the fact that the IBM Installer, just extracts the driver. You need to right click on my computer and click manage. Click "Device Manager". Find the network card in the "?" marked devices, and right click and click "update driver". Then click install from a list or specific location, then click browse and navigate to the location the driver was extracted to. This should solve your problem, and then you may run windows update.

that's the first thing I've done. If that worked I wouldn't have started this thread. Basically the machine can not detect the drivers.

It didn't do that for the other ones, I tried and I know I've done it right, IBM's installer app recognizes them on lookup, all except the most important one I need.

I shall try this SP3 animal.

I'll post results

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Originally posted by Al that's the first thing I've done. If that worked I wouldn't have started this thread. Basically the machine can not detect the drivers. It didn't do that for the other ones, I tried and I know I've done it right, IBM's installer app recognizes them on lookup, all except the most important one I need. I shall try this SP3 animal. I'll post results

Can you please post a screenshot of your device manager? I have a hunch of something, but I need to see this first.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Can you please post a screenshot of your device manager? I have a hunch of something, but I need to see this first.

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Originally posted by BoReD365247 You may want to try Unknown Device Identifier and see if it can give you the device info and then you google your drivers not having to go thru IBM. Also instead of updated drivers see if you can search IBM's support site for original drivers and not any updated ones. They should be good enough to at least get you online to get the rest of the drivers on there. http://www.zhangduo.com/udi.html

they have all versions on their support site.

I also have the old ones I have used in my previous HD formats or cleaning, those old one don't work either.

Yes, I did google, but I'm a tad skeptical towards downloading drivers from unknown or not well known sources.

progress

Installed SP3, no such luck of working.

Nothing has changed, it terms of the problems I was having, reviewed the drivers over and over again...

tsk


going to call it a day

../

Does SP3 require a 'verified' copy of XP in order to install it? Only my laptop has a proper copy

And, do I really want SP3 at all? What advantages does it have?

The next thing i would try would be to get it on the internet one of two ways. From the device manager shots you showed, you already installed the wireless drivers so if you have wifi get it online and head to the microsoft updates website and see if that'll detect the missing ethernet drivers.

Another way to get it online that might cost you a few dollars is to go to your local electronics store and buy a usb to ethernet converter/card. That would allow you to get online with a hardwire and then you can proceed to go to the ms update website. an example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16833156133

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Does SP3 require a 'verified' copy of XP in order to install it? Only my laptop has a proper copy And, do I really want SP3 at all? What advantages does it have?

SP3 slipstreamed into the CD allows you to install without a cd key! Oh and they quit blacklisting keys after sp1. It was too much of a customer service nightmare.

Al: Thanks. Try this download this driver and try it. It is dated this year. See if it detects it in there. If not, do this. Change the radio button to: "Don't search, I will choose the driver to install". Force it to find the driver that you need it to use. If that doesn't work, then time to get a pcmcia lan card. I haven't seen them in ages, but I am sure they still exist.

I think I know the problem, how many teraflops does you computer have?

I think I know the problem, how many teraflops does your computer have?

Did you say you recently updated to a new BIOS? That could be the problem there.. I know newer BIOS versions are supposed to fix problems, but you may have an odd case and it may be worth it to hunt down the previous BIOS version that came with the laptop. After going back to the original BIOS, try the XP install again.

oh shit, I did actually post in here, I thought it was a bad dream!!

People really do give a shit about IT problems, abortions & anal intrusion

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Did you say you recently updated to a new BIOS? That could be the problem there.. I know newer BIOS versions are supposed to fix problems, but you may have an odd case and it may be worth it to hunt down the previous BIOS version that came with the laptop. After going back to the original BIOS, try the XP install again.

haha no. A BIOS update doesn't effect the networking portion. That is controlled by a separate chip.

That happened because this is not a genuine thread. I know that because the original title had one extra V!

I hate to point out the obvious but just making sure, I apologise if this sounds patronising...

On your screenshots you are pointing the install location to the executable rather than the location you have extracted the actual driver files to. I presume this was just to show the info on the properties tab of the file?

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Originally posted by smallSHEEP I hate to point out the obvious but just making sure, I apologise if this sounds patronising... On your screenshots you are pointing the install location to the executable rather than the location you have extracted the actual driver files to. I presume this was just to show the info on the properties tab of the file?

that's the driver self extractor and everything..G:\. ..looks weird because I organized them
Installed drivers reside in C:\

ninja edit: most of IBM's drivers come like that, I haven't seem IBM driver that had a pack of files within a cab file

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