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Posted by Sukhoi29SU on Jun-03-2008 21:45:

Beatunes

Anyone happen to use this program? I bought it in order to analyze all my mp3's so that I can file them by BPM. It was the only program that I could find for a reasonable price that has that capability. Serato can, but you have to tap out the beats, and that'd be a pain with the amount of music I have. With music organized by bmp- I figured it'd be a nice way to sort through and narrow down tracks that I might use for future mixes.

Anyway, to the point:

It seems to be a great program for most files, however, it seems that about 10-15% of the files it has analyzed comes back with a bpm of around 80-90, and some around 16,000. Any idea why it does this, and how I might be able to change a setting so that the program can accurately produce the correct bpm?


Posted by Polt on Jun-03-2008 22:35:

Re: Beatunes

quote:
Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
Serato can, but you have to tap out the beats, and that'd be a pain with the amount of music I have.


Serato can do auto-bpm analysis. Has for a while now. There is also a free program by Mixmiester for finding BPMs of tracks.

The tracks with the lower bpm read-outs could probably be fixed by changing the range of bpm, which Serato does.


Posted by Gen3r4l1ty on Jun-03-2008 22:48:

Bear in mind that auto-beat detection is never 100% accurate.


Posted by Sukhoi29SU on Jun-04-2008 02:01:

Re: Re: Beatunes

quote:
Originally posted by Polt
Serato can do auto-bpm analysis. Has for a while now. There is also a free program by Mixmiester for finding BPMs of tracks.

The tracks with the lower bpm read-outs could probably be fixed by changing the range of bpm, which Serato does.


I was under the impression that, when using a Mac with Serato- that it wouldn't detect bpm. When I used Serato with my gateway laptop, I remember it used to work. Now that I've got it set up with my Macbook Pro, however, it doesn't seem to. I think it was an apple thread that I read that Beatunes is one of the only programs that works for this.

Any truth to this?

When I add a song to Serato and "build overviews"- it doesn't come up with a bpm readout.


Posted by Polt on Jun-04-2008 03:21:

Re: Re: Re: Beatunes

quote:
Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
When I add a song to Serato and "build overviews"- it doesn't come up with a bpm readout.


Did you make sure you have the option checked? I too run on a macbook pro and never have had problems with it detecting bpm.


Posted by AnomalyConcept on Jun-04-2008 04:31:

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has a bpm detect function.

On the topic of Serato, can you actually mix with it without the hardware? I know it probably doesn't have a built-in mixer, but can you still play/cue the decks and adjust the pitch? If so, it would be useful to have to practice beatmatching when away from the decks.


Posted by cmay119 on Jun-04-2008 04:41:

quote:
Originally posted by AnomalyConcept
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has a bpm detect function.

On the topic of Serato, can you actually mix with it without the hardware? I know it probably doesn't have a built-in mixer, but can you still play/cue the decks and adjust the pitch? If so, it would be useful to have to practice beatmatching when away from the decks.


The program for Serato is actually free. It's the hardware you pay for when buying Serato. So they'd be completely undermining themselves if they allowed you to mix without the box hooked up. The software allows you to adjust pitch internally for when the track is longer than 10 or 15 Minutes. Instead of the track just ending abrubtly, Serato will switch to internal mode seemlessly so you can mix out of the track.


Posted by Polt on Jun-04-2008 06:43:

quote:
Originally posted by AnomalyConcept
On the topic of Serato, can you actually mix with it without the hardware? I know it probably doesn't have a built-in mixer, but can you still play/cue the decks and adjust the pitch? If so, it would be useful to have to practice beatmatching when away from the decks.


You need the hardware to mix. However, you can analyze tracks and set cues and loops with only the software.


Posted by Tom Scott on Jun-07-2008 17:32:

Re: Re: Beatunes

quote:
Originally posted by Polt
Serato can do auto-bpm analysis. Has for a while now. There is also a free program by Mixmiester for finding BPMs of tracks.

The tracks with the lower bpm read-outs could probably be fixed by changing the range of bpm, which Serato does.


mix meister is a no-no. i used to use it to make little mixes to listen to ages ago. For a proffessional Djing program that has no midrange, difficult eqing and can only hold a beatmatch for a maximum of four bars, even if the BPMs are exactly perfect, i wouldn't trust it to guage BPMS. id rather physically count tbh


Posted by Polt on Jun-07-2008 17:42:

Re: Re: Re: Beatunes

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Scott
mix meister is a no-no. i used to use it to make little mixes to listen to ages ago. For a proffessional Djing program that has no midrange, difficult eqing and can only hold a beatmatch for a maximum of four bars, even if the BPMs are exactly perfect, i wouldn't trust it to guage BPMS. id rather physically count tbh


It's not mixmeister the mixing program. They have a free program that is just a bpm counter. From the short time I used it a while ago it actually did a good job.


Posted by Tom Scott on Jun-07-2008 17:45:

aaah apologies


Posted by Polt on Jun-07-2008 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Scott
aaah apologies


No worries man. I myself was confused the first time someone mentioned mixmester as a bpm counter. If i recall it was fairly hidden on the site when I was trying to find it.

I have heard good things about rapid evolution. I think it also finds keys for harmonic mixing.


Posted by Tom Scott on Jun-07-2008 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Polt
No worries man. I myself was confused the first time someone mentioned mixmester as a bpm counter. If i recall it was fairly hidden on the site when I was trying to find it.

I have heard good things about rapid evolution. I think it also finds keys for harmonic mixing.


yeh MixMeister as in the DJ software finds the keys of the tracks for you as well. I wouldn't know if thyre accurate though, as far as I can tell you cant change the pitch at all lol



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