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Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-04-2008 01:23:

consistent process of production?

for some reason i almost always begin producing by first creating a simple beat, then devising a bassline, then adding pads, then adding melody. almost always in that order, every time. for me it's easier to work out a melody when i create the rhythm section first.

any patterns you see when creating your own productions?


Posted by Lucidity on Jun-04-2008 02:01:

I try to approach it different everytime. Sometimes I create some wicked sound first by messin about with my synths and effects, and I will try to make several parts for that sound. Then I might go straight to the bass even before the kick, since for me one of the most important parts is the bass. Then I go to hats and claps, basically I kinda go ass backwards but, for me when I get the lead or melody and the bass going the rest is a smooth ride home. But that is just the way I do it sometimes.

If you try different ways of approaching your songs everytime, you can have many good songs in different styles or sounds. But on the other hand if you work the same everytime, you can produce more songs more quickly. So I guess it is really just preference.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-04-2008 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
I try to approach it different everytime. Sometimes I create some wicked sound first by messin about with my synths and effects, and I will try to make several parts for that sound. Then I might go straight to the bass even before the kick, since for me one of the most important parts is the bass. Then I go to hats and claps, basically I kinda go ass backwards but, for me when I get the lead or melody and the bass going the rest is a smooth ride home. But that is just the way I do it sometimes.

If you try different ways of approaching your songs everytime, you can have many good songs in different styles or sounds. But on the other hand if you work the same everytime, you can produce more songs more quickly. So I guess it is really just preference.


yeah i keep coming to the realization more and more that if i do things in a rigid pattern, i become less creative, especially if i force myself to produce in a certain manner/order (which really only forces me to produce within my own self-imposed guidelines, once again making it difficult to be creative).

argh, gotta try something else i suppose. /frustrated atm

going completely off on a tangent, sometimes shit just comes to me and production is a breeze, other times (especially when i try to force myself to work on a project, or set productive goals for myself) i get nothing. argh


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-04-2008 08:45:

The rhythm section always comes first for me, it's just so easy to build everything around it. It's actually not a conscious choice either, it just happens.

I've sometimes tried to work in a linear fashion too - you know, start from the intro and work my way through the track and see what happens. That sometimes provides some rather interesting results...


Posted by Acton on Jun-04-2008 08:53:

Depends what is going on in my head really, if i have a melody i want to put down, then ill go with that, sometimes its bass first or pads.
I then just build from there. I cant say there is a systematic approach to me making tunes.

Although one thing i do constantly is spend time making really wierd sounds and FX, and then occasionally i'll think......oooh....i can make a tune out of that.


Posted by Falck on Jun-04-2008 11:23:

Bassline first, then the kick... then everything else


Posted by Vortex_SA on Jun-04-2008 11:44:

an idea... than sound design, than anything else...


Posted by Waza on Jun-04-2008 14:42:

usually bassline or main lead. then build round that.


Posted by pwnage1 on Jun-05-2008 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
The rhythm section always comes first for me, it's just so easy to build everything around it. It's actually not a conscious choice either, it just happens.
Yeah, percussions have always been the most fun for me so i usually start with that but i suck at making melodies so by the time i make one that is pretty good i get bored of the whole track. I work much better with a midi keyboard but i am to broke for that.


Posted by trance-ecj on Jun-05-2008 05:14:

i always get a nice beat going....cus usually i get pissed when messing around trying to make a catchy lead or a sweet bassline, so its really important that i have a good beat goin so that i stay interested in the project...if i cant get anything workin, and the beat behind it all is just 'ok' then i trash the project, get pissed, and call it a day.

having a sweet drum loop keeps me goin.


Posted by davidbuhau on Jun-07-2008 03:44:

first i WRITE my drums...

then the track sorta makes itself

the only time i use loops is when i remix a track, or when i use loops i created myself in the past

david


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Jun-07-2008 04:17:

I do it this way because it only makes sense to me.

ALWAYS do the melody/synth line first.
Your synth line is what EVERYTHING else in the track is building towards, so if you don't have it defined, how will you know how to alter earlier elements so it "makes sense".

I just couldn't imagine doing a kick and bass first, than punching away on the keys trying to come up with a kick/bass line that fit the atmosphere it would ultimately turn in to. But thats just how I start.


Posted by davidbuhau on Jun-07-2008 04:19:

sometimes i have a melody in my head all day and i'll just stick a snare on 2 and 4 or something and put down the melody... but i need some kinda drum running... it just helps me keep track of what the f is going on

david


Posted by DJLafleur on Jun-07-2008 17:31:

Although Im very new to making music I"ve found that making the beat first is easiest so far. Though like I said I am very new to making music


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jun-08-2008 11:47:

most of the time i start with a kick and a baseline or some acid pattern, then i waste ALOT of time just looping it and adding elements into the loop. then i get tired of the loop before starting on structure


Posted by itsamemario on Jun-09-2008 01:12:

lately ive done a mockup of the buildup and the takeoff, trying to make all the sounds work together, then i delete all automation and structure, and start building the track from scratch..


Posted by MSZ on Jun-13-2008 17:22:

i spend too much time appreciating or something, i get stuck very easily


Posted by MOK on Jun-17-2008 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by msz
i spend too much time appreciating or something, i get stuck very easily

^That.

And I hope it fades away with time and experience cuz that's a lot of wasted time, and faded creativity. I call it tunnel vision.



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