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Posted by gOuRYeLLa~! on May-18-2002 20:26:

º|[ Allen & Heath Xone 32 ]|º

hi, i have reached a dillemma...

currently i am saving up for the Vestax PCV-275 mixer... by the end of this month i will have enough money to buy it.

should i just skip the vestax and save up more to get the xone 32? how good is the allen and heath xone 32 compared to the vestax pcv 275?

thanks in advance


Posted by DJ_kimberg on May-19-2002 03:13:

hey wsup Gouryella. I was at my local record store today and checked out The Allen & heath xone32 and the pcv-275.. The Allen & heath looked way better than the pics i've seen online websites. The crossfader is really sweet I couldnt stop messing around with it at the store. I can't say much about the pcv-275 because to me it looks like any other mixer I've used and nothing special about it. You should go try the A&H foryourself and you'll know what i mean. peace hope that helped.


Posted by Lanithium on May-19-2002 03:22:

definately go the xone 32. you'll be glad you did in the long run...


Posted by Kid_Lax on May-19-2002 06:00:

ive said this a million times

i have a xone: 32 and i fucking love it


Posted by hapamoto on May-19-2002 06:15:

go w/ the A&H xone 32.. u'll like it more and its a clean mixer.. probably one of the cleanest sounds you can get..


Posted by j_spot on May-19-2002 07:00:

get the A&H. it is one of the best sounding mixers out there, and it has features that no other mixer has. the soundcards are vertical, not horizontal. so say you were to spill on it, then the liquid would drip off as opposed to pooling up and potentiall frying your 1100 dollar mixer


Posted by hapamoto on May-19-2002 08:02:

yah.. i was talking to the dj that i got my cd decks from last week and he used to have a xone 62 and he loved it.. he now had the pioneer djm-600 and he says he liked the xone better but he got the pioneer free so decided to use it for awhile.. he's sponsered by stanton but he doesn't like their mixers (doensn't have anything to do w/ wat u want but i' figured i say that anyway).. anyways he says the A&H is a much cleaner sound and the extra EQ (it has 2 mids) is cool (but i dunno if they have 4 eq's on the xone32).. anyways he just likes the effects better on the djm600 but for sound quality, the A&H is better.. sorry i don't know anything about the Vestax mixer ur looking at.


Posted by reemo on May-19-2002 12:00:

Kid_Lax, I own one too... good to hear you enjoy yours...


they are wicked!

i used some of the effects on my mix cd's (volume 2 and 3) which u can get at:
www.reemo.com.au

cheers


Posted by gOuRYeLLa~! on May-19-2002 16:00:

thanks for the tips guys, looks like i gotta wait a few more months for the beautiful xone 32


Posted by JohnSmith on May-21-2002 16:17:

arghh...

i had my heart set on the vestax!

oh well, i think i am gonna get it anyway.


Posted by DJ Chrono on May-21-2002 16:49:

I'm getting the vestax anyways too.. it's already in the mail


Posted by JohnSmith on May-21-2002 17:26:

sweet.. mine will be, as soon as scottaculous mails it out.

I can't wait! I did my first mixing this weekend with a shitty numark mixer, can't wait to get my hands on the vestax.


Posted by mikefasssy on May-21-2002 19:00:

hey i was just wondering, why the heck are the allen and heath mixers so much money? its like 900 us!!! the pcv 175/275 run at about 400 us new. and the xone mixers look about the same. is it just quality??


Posted by reemo on May-21-2002 23:35:

do not judge by looks when it comes to a mixer... otherwise you may think those gemini 626's are really cool

allen and heath 32's have effects and a much high build quality than the vestax's...

dont be fooled into thinking the PCV-275 has effects because it doesn't! its only got some feature to send and return to a seperate effects unit if you have one.


Posted by hapamoto on May-21-2002 23:53:

you have to look at it by price.. for under $400, u probably won't find a much better mixer then the Vestax.. but if you can afford it, the A&H are top knotch quality.. if you get the vestax, you won't be dissappointed.. just don't expect to get what you would by paying $900 for an A&H from your $400 Vestax..


Posted by gOuRYeLLa~! on May-22-2002 03:13:

mwahaha, you will be using you're puny pcv 275's while i command the decks with the pure sounding, lfo filters, digitall recall system, and VCF's

talk about quality, i cant wait till my baby comes home


Posted by JohnSmith on May-22-2002 03:25:

yeah.. your probably right.

but, hey, $500 more is about 50 more records we can afford to buy. it's all a tradeoff.

this will be my first mixer, i don't need anything more, and i definitely don't need effects.

I just need a good mixer, and the vestax 275 is it.

enjoy your allen and heath though.

i think i will eventually get a DJM3000 if i bother to upgrade.


Posted by DJ Chrono on May-22-2002 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by gOuRYeLLa~!
mwahaha, you will be using you're puny pcv 275's while i command the decks with the pure sounding, lfo filters, digitall recall system, and VCF's


hey hey, take it easy . Vestax mixers have very good audio quality, the difference between the Xone 32 and PCV275 would probably be beyond human hearing.. and the 275 has one of the lowest S/N ratios for any DJ Mixer. U are paying alot extra for the effects when u buy a xone32, and thats why im not getting it. don't need the fx, i feel they get tiresome after awhile


Posted by hapamoto on May-22-2002 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith

i think i will eventually get a DJM3000 if i bother to upgrade.


i will be picking one of those up w/in the next few weeks.. i need a rack-mount 19" mixer that will also fit the top-mount w/ my CD controller.. plus i need the 4 channels because i have 2 cd decks along w/ my techs and on my 2 ch. mixer right now it gets annoying that i have to keep switch back and forth between phono/aux.. plus w/ the 4 channels i can mix any of the 4 channels.. right now im just limited to mixing whichever is hooked up to ch. 1


Posted by j_spot on May-22-2002 04:57:

Dog Running

the vestax 275 to Xone is a HUGE jump. not only for the filters, but the 4 band EQ, the level indicators on the channel so that you know if you are bringing the 2 tracks in @ the same volume. The connections are way differnt, XLR compared to RCA..which is WORLD of difference there alone

oh and the selectable channel...and different x-fader curves...


Posted by JohnSmith on May-22-2002 16:25:

well.. in my opinion the vestax is pretty damn good. maybe not AS good, but pretty damn good. and it's less than HALF the price.

for one, i don't NEED fx, and i don't NEED an adjustable cross fader, the vestax is perfect for trance so i hear.

as for level meters, on the Allen and Heath they are only 4 leds high, that's hardly enough.

on the vestax they are nice and big. the vestax doesn't have them for each channel, but you can switch the cue section to show the master on one side, and the cue on the other(at least i think you can)

and finally the RCA/XLR connectors, what it has balanced XLR outs? that doesn't mean much, even my shitty numark EM-360 I took back has those.

most times you are going to use the RCAs anyway. the line in and phono in are going to be RCA (at least they better be if you want to plug in a standard turntable or cd player), so the difference is only in the output.

anyway, no point in arguing, i only want this for bedroom DJing


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on May-22-2002 17:51:

adjustable curves on the crossfader is a big plus to me... it allows you more control over the mix... and if I recall the EQ's on the Xone32 are much deeper than the -16db that the vestax gives. The VCF's on the X:One are more than just effects, also... effects are much more like reverbs, echos, flangers, etc... VCFs are simply synth style frequency filters, and if they work like other VCFs, can compliment the EQ.

the Xone32 does NOT have 4 band EQs, but the Xone 62 and 464 do. Personally, I think that would just make mixing more of a pain, having to worry about a forth EQ to adjust. The EQs on the Xone32 are standard 3 band ...

yes, the 275 is suited idealy to trance... but trance is not my thing when it comes to mixing, i find hardhouse, nrg, and breaks to be much more fun ;) i think the Xone32 is better suited to a wider range of styles.

So, I found the X:one32 for $700, new and shipped. anyone find a better deal? I'm probably gonna buy soon, so i'm price shopping now :)

-mer


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on May-22-2002 21:20:

Ok, Now i've found the X:One32 for $645 shipped... lower and lower... someone find me an even better deal
-mer


Posted by gOuRYeLLa~! on May-23-2002 02:00:

where'd u get it for that cheap!? tell me tell me!


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on May-29-2002 18:24:

awwwwwwwwwwwyea! got my xone:32 in the mail today at lunch. only had about 20 min to play around with it, but so far it's quite astounding. The EQ's are VERY smooth, and the fader is amazingly smooth. in just a few min i could tell it's a MAJOR step up from the stanton RM3S i had before.

the VCF filters ! they are TIGHT! you can use them like an EQ, they can really enhance a transition of make a buildup much more earthshattering... or use the resonance to add some very interesting sounding effects.

I'll post more about the mixer after i have a week or two to use it... but the first 20 min of use totally exceeded my expectations.

some people have complained the channel faders and crossfader dont feel very good, and are a bit loose... I must disagree, the crossfader is quite tight, with a smooth travel.. and the channel faders have a very useable curve and are also tight... no loose stuff on this box (we'll see if my daily abuse loosens them up, though)

BTW, i did find a place that has these for a bit under $700, new... send me an online messeage if you'd like that info ...

ok, so time for the complaints:
a) it's too long to fix in my coffin
b) the level controls for the channels are on the rear...
c) the headphone volume is on the front..
d) the line/phono selector is on the rear by the connector

all pretty minor.. basically, the physical design leaves a little to be desired, but dont forget this is a 10" mixer... most 10" mixers are very cluttered on the front, but the weird design makes the front planel spacious and easier to deal with

-mer



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