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CDJ1000 Vinyl vs CD mode???

to those of you out there who have the cdj 1000, i was wondering what the main differences between cdj and vinyl mode were, i noticed the one time that i tried them out that with a track playing in vinyl mode, if you moved the jogwheel the pitch would change as well, but if you did the same in cd mode, there would be no pitch changes, from seeing pics of you guys setups, it's almost even in terms of how many people use vinyl and how many people use cd mode, and i'm a bit clueless on this club default equipment, so i was wondering if you guys can tell me the pro's and con's of both, which you use, and why you use it!!! thank you!




and since i guess this question is in the samee ballpark... do you use the master pitch button or not, i've heard some people complain really bad about digital distortion and whatnot, but have heard others say it's a godsend when trying to keep in keys...

This is one of those questions that boils down to personal preference. I love my CDJ's on VINYL MODE.

so you do, but why do you prefer them in vinyl mode, what advantages/disadvantages does it have to cd mode... how are they different?

when i had cdjs...vinyl mode all the way.

the stuttering was okay...but honestly, it drove me insane. i like some gabber/hardcore songs...but the stutter mode went too far. lol.

anyways...i always found it easier to use vinyl mode since ive used technics from when i first started djing

what do u mean by stuttering?

The way you cue your CD's is different with both modes. Vinyl Mode emulates a turntable, and CD Mode emulates the dual deck CD Players. I prefer Vinyl Mode cuz it resembles a turntable a lot closer. It's not as boring.

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Originally posted by TRNG what do u mean by stuttering?

when you pause the track in cd mode it goes into an annoying stutter to cue

I personally like CDJ mode better. Easier to control the pitch when using the platter IMO, although I mainly still use the pitch control slide just like on vinyl. I use vinyl mode though to find my cue point, then switch it to CDJ.

Since nobody's talked about master tempo, I'll weigh in.

I used to use master tempo all the time, especially when mixing within +/- 2%. It does help with keeping things in key, and also you don't get the pitch fluctuation when you make adjustments. However, it is entirely possible to be subtle with your adjustments and make them unnoticeable.

Master tempo is great when you have to pitch something really far and where the pitch would sound strange without, but you do hear some distortion sometimes, particularly on the kick or hats. Occasionally it sounds like it 'crunches' the sound by skipping samples or whatever.

Now, I try not to use master tempo when I can. Lately, I've been experimenting with pitching things up to ~150bpm with master tempo off. It's kind of fun, actually.

Edit: I use vinyl mode. I'll have to try CD mode for pitch adjust to see how that feels.

I prefer CDJ-mode, because I actually like the stuttering. Makes it easier for me to cue my tracks. I started it out with Technics turntables as well, but switched to cd pretty soon. And since my cheap-ass Numark doesn't have a vinyl mode, i got used to the stuttering, and just trained myself to use it to cue a track.

I can work in both modes though, but CDJ-mode just works a little quicker for me.

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Originally posted by djxtension I prefer CDJ-mode, because I actually like the stuttering. Makes it easier for me to cue my tracks.

ditto

Re: CDJ1000 Vinyl vs CD mode???

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Originally posted by TRNG to those of you out there who have the cdj 1000, i was wondering what the main differences between cdj and vinyl mode were, i noticed the one time that i tried them out that with a track playing in vinyl mode, if you moved the jogwheel the pitch would change as well, but if you did the same in cd mode, there would be no pitch changes.

Incorrect. Pitch changes in either mode when correcting with the platter. Unless you have master tempo on. (for 800s, but I assume 1000s work the same in this matter).

I'm a cdj mode guy. I absolutely refuse to use master-tempo, whatever way you use it, it sounds terrible, unless you use it within half a percent or so. You hear some sounds are cut or made longer in a way which just sounds really bad. It's the only feature together with looping precision that really needs to improve (imo).

ahh, i seee


so why do you use cdj mode oover vinyl mode?

I definately prefer the CDJ mode. I use it for:

• Cueing the next track. I actually find the stutter is helpful, it gets the precision on the beat perfectly.
  
• Correcting beatmatching, I find it much more helpful for the music to keep playing as i use the jog wheel to speed/slow the track up to correct the beatmatching
  
• The CDJ effects are essential to my mixes as well, especially the WAH, and from time to time the other two
  
• The simple fact I cannot scratch and therefore the other effects and jog wheel control have no appeal to me
  

vinyl mode.

i come from a turntablist background before i started spinning House and Techno so i suppose i like that vinyl feel. I have used cdj mode in the past. It's ok, almost too precise for me so i stick to vinyl mode.

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Originally posted by TRNG ahh, i seee so why do you use cdj mode oover vinyl mode?

I just fuck up with vinyl mode hahaha. Touching the top of the platter is a no-no in such a case, I do that way to often.

i use both, sometimes it's nicer to cue up a record in vinly mode, but as mentioned, prefer to make adjustments while its playing in cdj mode because of the sensitve platter

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Originally posted by Storyteller I'm a cdj mode guy. I absolutely refuse to use master-tempo, whatever way you use it, it sounds terrible, unless you use it within half a percent or so. You hear some sounds are cut or made longer in a way which just sounds really bad. It's the only feature together with looping precision that really needs to improve (imo).

I'm glad there is someone who see this also. A friend tried to convince me that master tempo was a god sent, but I kept telling him there was a bit of a distortion when it was on.

I personally prefer vinyl mode when playing out. I started with vinyl and like that the pioneer 800's and 1000's can sort of emulate that. To me I see no difference in either mode.

Usually CDJ mode for me. I like the precision.

Umm, have you actually used CDJ-800/1000's? They don't have effects!

All that CDJ mode does is:

1. Disables the touch sensitive top of the platter.
2. Changes cue to "stutter" mode.

Using the edge of the platter to pitch bend in vinyl mode is the same as when using CDJ mode. I know a bunch of people that turn off vinyl mode just so they don't inadvertently touch the top of the platter and stop the music.

I use my 1000's with a DVS, so vinyl mode is where it's at for me. I like to cue by riding over the beat.

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Originally posted by Tom Scott I definately prefer the CDJ mode. I use it for: Cueing the next track. I actually find the stutter is helpful, it gets the precision on the beat perfectly. Correcting beatmatching, I find it much more helpful for the music to keep playing as i use the jog wheel to speed/slow the track up to correct the beatmatching The CDJ effects are essential to my mixes as well, especially the WAH, and from time to time the other two The simple fact I cannot scratch and therefore the other effects and jog wheel control have no appeal to me I only use vinyl mode to search over long periods of the track. DJs who use scratching a lot in thier mixes, and also DJs who have switched from turntables to CDJs tend to use it in Vinyl mode. Its really a matter of personal preference and what helps the finished mix sound better and run smoother for you. You will inevitably get distortion in your track if you pitch it up way too high, but used sparingly its fine. I dont use it much to be honest as i dont usually mix harmonically, some tracks just sound better mixed that way and pitched up. Once again its all a matter of preference and the way you like to listen to and change the music.

never turned vinyl mode off, but can still pretty well use if as if in cdj mode anyway. using the outer rim of the platter works the same in both modes, and i've never used the top platter for corrections, only cueing. when a track starts right at the first beat, scratch cueing is a bitch, so I'll use the cue and play buttons like a cdj.

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