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Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Jun-09-2008 21:30:

HappyHappy Big Techno come back!!!

Latest mixes I been hearing along with latest sets I have been enjoying the last year have been more and more turning in the direction of techno coming from DJ who you would normally hear nothing but variations of house music. I don't know about many of you since a lot of you follow trance, which I don�t like since PVD killed it, but techno seems to be making a big come back with music starting to sound better then it used to be but nevertheless in a sense of old school style industrial (afterhours) banging tempo that gets me usually into stumping on the dance floor. I got to invent some new dance moves for myself because I don�t feel like I am at that age any longer to be able to stump it out for 10 hours straight. LOL

Anyway, I loved techno since I first heard it from Frankie Bones and I am just happy to see it making a comeback once again. I feel like a rebirth of my youth.

I just wanted to share this opinion and hear opinions from you guys.

Some of the examples of techno switching DJs are: Deep Dish, DT, VC, Luca Ricci, Murk and a number of others.


Posted by Frequency Frank on Jun-09-2008 21:38:

+1 dude, glad to see the resurgence of support for techno in NYC!


Posted by Chaska on Jun-09-2008 21:47:

Welcome to last year!

Dubfire has been doing some interesting stuff lately, I always thought he was the better half of Deep Dish. Even in trance there is a big techno influence nowadays. Pig & Dan have done quite a nice transition in the past few years, and Sasha has done really well reinventing himself.

Techno has been around NY for YEARS, it's just that it hasn't been @ Pacha, Webster Hall, Crobar (or whatever it is called this year), the Hamptons, or Jersey. It has been in small places and has had a regular following. You would amazed at the number of local djs that play techno. Trance and house have always been more marketable and tbh, I hope techno doesn't become that.


Posted by kadomony on Jun-09-2008 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Chaska
Welcome to last year!




but yea i've been considering making a techno mix to accompany the next underwater missions set this week or next. misc ftw.


Posted by Frequency Frank on Jun-09-2008 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Chaska
Welcome to last year!

Dubfire has been doing some interesting stuff lately, I always thought he was the better half of Deep Dish. Even in trance there is a big techno influence nowadays. Pig & Dan have done quite a nice transition in the past few years, and Sasha has done really well reinventing himself.

Techno has been around NY for YEARS, it's just that it hasn't been @ Pacha, Webster Hall, Crobar (or whatever it is called this year), the Hamptons, or Jersey. It has been in small places and has had a regular following. You would amazed at the number of local djs that play techno. Trance and house have always been more marketable and tbh, I hope techno doesn't become that.


I never understood this point of view. Why would you not want the larger venues to support techno acts? If the bigger/marketable guys continue to get noteriety for playing techno, the smaller, more interesting producers will be easier to bring to the small/medium sized venues. Those acts, to me, are a lot more fun. I'd rather see guys like Paul Ritch, Stephan Bodzin, Lutzenkirchen, etc at a 300 person venue than Carl Cox @ Pacha, but the former can't really happen without the latter.


Posted by Zack Roth on Jun-09-2008 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Chaska
Welcome to last year!

Dubfire has been doing some interesting stuff lately, I always thought he was the better half of Deep Dish. Even in trance there is a big techno influence nowadays. Pig & Dan have done quite a nice transition in the past few years, and Sasha has done really well reinventing himself.

Techno has been around NY for YEARS, it's just that it hasn't been @ Pacha, Webster Hall, Crobar (or whatever it is called this year), the Hamptons, or Jersey. It has been in small places and has had a regular following. You would amazed at the number of local djs that play techno. Trance and house have always been more marketable and tbh, I hope techno doesn't become that.


we all know techno has been around. He was making a point that techno is getting out of the smaller underground venues you're talking about and getting into the big venues. No one is saying that techno hasn't been around.

Pig and Dan have always been techno producrs / djs btw.


Posted by Chaska on Jun-09-2008 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Frequency Frank
I never understood this point of view. Why would you not want the larger venues to support techno acts? If the bigger/marketable guys continue to get noteriety for playing techno, the smaller, more interesting producers will be easier to bring to the small/medium sized venues. Those acts, to me, are a lot more fun. I'd rather see guys like Paul Ritch, Stephan Bodzin, Lutzenkirchen, etc at a 300 person venue than Carl Cox @ Pacha, but the former can't really happen without the latter.


It already is happening.
When Magda played at Bar 13 on a Tuesday, I think, the place was packed like a can of sardines. Same with Bodzin and other heavy techno acts that have been brought consistently to Bar 13 for the past year or two. Memo made a really good decision bringing Rotate NYC, Blkmarket membership and Biatch Corp. on board.


Posted by kadomony on Jun-09-2008 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Frequency Frank
Stephan Bodzin @ Pacha


yes plz


Posted by Chaska on Jun-09-2008 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
yes plz


Don't see it happening. Somebody needs to bring Gabriel Ananda, though!


Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Jun-09-2008 22:14:

Well, I guess we missunderstood each other possibly but I am actually making a point of techno making its way back into the main stream. Telling me that it always been around isn't something I didn't know but that it has been out of sight is a fact for almost last 6 years. While 10-15 years ago every club was pumping techno most of the week and and weekend spiliting nights with house. Then again, trance wasn't yet IT. Nonetheless, techno was once main stream and now its finally back. What started as DJs switching to minimal and tech-house is now picking up speed BPM wise on the dance floor and I love it. Brings back memories from DT birthday party at Studio (Crobar) when DT relentlessly started mayheming pure techno for hours none end and everybody loved it. (DT served it right that night)


Posted by Frequency Frank on Jun-09-2008 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Chaska
It already is happening.
When Magda played at Bar 13 on a Tuesday, I think, the place was packed like a can of sardines. Same with Bodzin and other heavy techno acts that have been brought consistently to Bar 13 for the past year or two. Memo made a really good decision bringing Rotate NYC, Blkmarket membership and Biatch Corp. on board.


Yes I know, all 3 of those promotion groups have a solid following no matter who they book, and regardless of where they go. Magda was on a Thurs though, and it was at Apartment with Derek Plasaiko of the Bunker.

Bodzin was last september, and it was a free party.

The point to me is, you don't need to be a full on underground techno head to know where these parties are and enjoy them anymore, as the music has been eased into the mainstream veeeeeeeerry slowly. This...to me...is a very good thing.


Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Jun-09-2008 22:17:

Oh and trance, pre-PVD owning it into 6 feet under, used to be hard banging that it didnt matter if you were on a techno dancefloor or trance dancefloor because you were getting hard pounding base.


Posted by Chaska on Jun-09-2008 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Frequency Frank
Magda was on a Thurs though, and it was at Apartment with Derek Plasaiko of the Bunker.


Before that, it was last year.

quote:
Bodzin was last september, and it was a free party.


Free until 12, and nothing will ever get packed at 12.

quote:
The point to me is, you don't need to be a full on underground techno head to know where these parties are and enjoy them anymore, as the music has been eased into the mainstream veeeeeeeerry slowly. This...to me...is a very good thing.

Well, it was bound to happen at a point. It happened to trance with the wave of dutch djs and again with the whole electro sound 2 years ago, and I guess the music industry needs a new trend. It will be a matter of months before this trend becomes old and people will eventually get sick of it.


Posted by kadomony on Jun-09-2008 22:29:

i just broke out Michel de Hey - Snert (Djinxx Moods Mix) because of this thread


Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Jun-09-2008 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Chaska
Well, it was bound to happen at a point. It happened to trance with the wave of dutch djs and again with the whole electro sound 2 years ago, and I guess the music industry needs a new trend. It will be a matter of months before this trend becomes old and people will eventually get sick of it.


all depands how the sound will evolve. so far i been loving how techno got less head numbing in a way. the reason for it i think is because new talent making music with different point of view on the genre and because the DJs that made the switch to new sound are coming from house background that has an entertaining flow to it.


PS. Get your hands on early electro/minimal mixes from Vath & Hawtin/ May that will blow your mind how fawking awesome it sounded for early 90's.


Posted by magikb on Jun-10-2008 00:43:

Re: Big Techno come back!!!

quote:
Originally posted by ReenTeenTeen
but techno seems to be making a big come back with music starting to sound better then it used to be but nevertheless in a sense of old school style industrial (afterhours) banging tempo that gets me usually into stumping on the dance floor.


what is not to love about techno making that comeback

I honestly started with trance back in 2003, but then I found techno in 2004/05 (thanks to Preach when he was banging techno back then and playing Aria every Friday night in Montreal) and I haven't looked back since.

The only unfortunate thing is that most of the techno acts I love don't come to North America, so I need to make the travel to Europe to see them.


Posted by Stassi on Jun-10-2008 05:31:

I for one welcome our new techno overlords.


Posted by dcctnycprincess on Jun-10-2008 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by ReenTeenTeen
Well, I guess we missunderstood each other possibly but I am actually making a point of techno making its way back into the main stream.


the above statement is going to kill the techno scene


Posted by dcctnycprincess on Jun-10-2008 12:43:

Re: Re: Big Techno come back!!!

quote:
Originally posted by magikb
The only unfortunate thing is that most of the techno acts I love don't come to North America, so I need to make the travel to Europe to see them.

ditto - if you want to hear really good underground techno going to europe is a must


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-10-2008 13:00:

Come back? Where did it go?


Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Jun-10-2008 13:26:

Re: Re: Re: Big Techno come back!!!

quote:
Originally posted by dcctnycprincess
ditto - if you want to hear really good underground techno going to europe is a must


My travel plans going to Europe always include a flight into Frankfurt first thing on the night Hawtin + Vath play Cocoon.


Posted by DJ Eco on Jun-10-2008 13:31:

quote:
Originally posted by dcctnycprincess
the above statement is going to kill the techno scene



Too late.... Like trance, maybe 10%, at best, of the tracks I hear in techno sets are sounding good anymore.... I think every mother's brother has beaten it to death already (minimal, I'm talking about), whereas, however, techno (TECHNO techno) will always survive... The style of and energy of Chris Liebing will always be more pleasing to my ears than most tech producers post-2005, I think there's only a certain amount of combinations of wierd sounds you can put together. Afterwards, like trance, it's just an copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, with very few people breaking boundaries (like Maetrik or Phil Kieran and Dusty Kid).


Posted by Frequency Frank on Jun-10-2008 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Too late.... Like trance, maybe 10%, at best, of the tracks I hear in techno sets are sounding good anymore.... I think every mother's brother has beaten it to death already (minimal, I'm talking about), whereas, however, techno (TECHNO techno) will always survive... The style of and energy of Chris Liebing will always be more pleasing to my ears than most tech producers post-2005, I think there's only a certain amount of combinations of wierd sounds you can put together. Afterwards, like trance, it's just an copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, with very few people breaking boundaries (like Maetrik or Phil Kieran and Dusty Kid).


Isn't the 10% rule true of all EDM? I mean think of how many shitty electro house producers there are for every deadmau5/chris lake/dirty south. Like all music, the more popular something becomes, the greater the likelihood for shitty knockoffs. But, if it weren't for shitty popular stuff, the good stuff might not see light of day. It's like we talked about in the DJ Sammy thread. Even though he's got no credibility with the underground, DJ Sammy (and similar acts) brought trance to the masses and made it more paletable to the general public, and as such allowed the more underground acts to get more recognition. Can't do a US tour of a techno act unless people outside of NYC have heard of them


Posted by AY STAR on Jun-10-2008 13:49:

techno has always been around
just was not as popular
like reen said the music scene has been changeing like from 2004 minimal became very big out of nowhere and has been popular ever since, but since like maybe 2007 it has been going more of the techno sound like a higher bpm and a lil more drums so i like to use the term "maximal" but as for straight up fuck me while iam running banging techno it will be around but its just not as popular right now
but it will make its way back times change
like i said before everyone was playing minimal and switchin their styles, now more techno sound has come into the picture and ina few years maybe the sound will be a lil bit faster and harder we will have to see
even nyc dj's have been switchin their styles
that big room tribal sound is not what it used to be alot of dj's are playing less and less of it and i just dont mean the big djs i mean even the local djs at pacha basement, alot of the times i go down there its lots of minimal/tech house
for me personally i just dont like how techno is mislabled when its really minimal (via beatport) makes me sick
so on the dance floor i could listen to maybe a hour or 2 of minimal but then i need some more drums and wicked baselines to get my ass moving
speaking of techno...anyone know when carl cox is commin back?
guy tore pacha to shreds last year


Posted by ReenTeenTeen on Jun-10-2008 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by dcctnycprincess
the above statement is going to kill the techno scene


in that case, i suggest you start building a bomb sheler?


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