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Pioneer 700 mixer vs 800

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SAVE MONEY FOR 1 MORE MONTH AND BUY A XONE 92



DONE!

I like my DJM 800 over the Xone 92... But that's just me. hehehe Anyhow, the difference between the 800 & 700 isn't much. Research it and you'll see. I got my DJM800 at Guitar Center for $1300, which is the same as the DJM700.

xone 92 or ecler evo

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Originally posted by DjWoody I like my DJM 800 over the Xone 92... But that's just me.

That makes perfect sense - bad taste in music, bad taste in gear.

I suppose for Unicorn trance or McProg, a DJM 800 is a DJ's wet dream - it's a bare bones mixer with wretched sound quality (that oddly makes the music sound better) and horrible EQ curves, BUT with the simple turn of a knob even the most tone-deaf of DJ's can avoid key clashes for those random 16 notes where you might have misphrased a bassline and have competing frequencies. And let's not forget that flanger - the only effect that will ever be used on countless 800's the world over. What would trance be without that flange?!?

For everyone else, however, there are plenty of better choices - and certainly not just Allen & Heath choices. I just don't see how an educated consumer or DJ can prefer a DJM 800 to the literally dozens of better options out there.

Oh wait, it's got loads of pretty lights too. Nevermind. DJM 800 OR BUST, MANG! 4 LAIFE!

EDIT: FLANGING FOREVER! NEVER FORGET!

That was uncalled for. You know nothing about me. I'll just ignore that comment.

i have the djm700...for the price i got it for...its great...couldnt really justify the 800 for the price when i was looking at mixers.

xone vs djm...endless debate...it ultimately goes nowhere.

to each his own

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Originally posted by DjWoody That was uncalled for. You know nothing about me. I'll just ignore that comment.

I didn't call you a jerkface or a douchebag, all I said was I think you have bad taste in both music and gear, and knowing what you play it doesn't surprise me that you would choose the bog-standard in mixers.

The irony of this coming at the end of your post, however, was absolutely delicious:

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Originally posted by DjWoody I'll just ignore that comment.

stop mincing words rob. what do you really think?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN stop mincing words rob. what do you really think?

People who like mixing music prefer Xone 92s...people who like being party DJs and having an array of cheap effects like DJM-800s. I once played pre-recorded hip hop CDs at a house party with the 800 and added several shit roll effects and other tricks to each track and all the clueless kids at the party said I was amazing. Case. In. Point.

Here's another excellent example posted by our friend RobertStern:

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Originally posted by RobertStern DJM-800 Tiesto Ferry Corsten Armin van Buuren Markus Schulz Eddie Halliwell Sander van Doorn etc. etc. etc. This mixer is mandatory on all their tech riders. The best play with the best. Period.

I enjoy the DJM during the one time a year when I spin some Hard Techno for a few hours. Fast, sudden transitions which is what the mixer feels like it has been made for.

The rest of the time I'll take the Xone over anything. Perfect for more precise, thought-out transitions, layering, etc. More focused on smooth mixing as opposed to sudden slams.

That's how I see it. To me, both of them are better suited for certain genres of music. Then again, this is has become yet another "Xone vs DJM" thread. Choose what you want, not what we want.

Both mixers have it's ups and downs. I've used both plenty of times. I love the sound quality of the Xone, but I'm not a fan of the cueing system. However, I really can't stand the curves on the faders. You really can't hear the next track unless your fader is almost all the way up. That bothers me because I play different genres of music. However, when mixing house, prog or techno, a rotary Xone 92 is sick. A huge plus on the Xone is it's many output options. I belive in the Xone you can output up to two channels pre-mix. That's awesome!

However, I like the pioneer for it's simplicity. It's cueing system is pretty straight forward and the layout is pretty clean. I also spin Spanish Rock, Top 40 & Mashups so the faders work perfect for those styles. The effects are cool, but I rarely use them. Honestly, I bought the pioneer for it's ease of use and because I do sound at many clubs I know I would be able to rent it out more than the Xone. Up to this date, I haven't had a single request for Xone 92, but I had tons of requests for the DJM800.

check out the ecler, just as good as the xone if not better and cheaper.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people complain about the cueing system on Xone's in general - I can understand *maybe* complaining about it on the 62 or 32, but FFS - the system on the 92 is EXACTLY THE SAME AS ON A DJM!

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Originally posted by DjWoody Both mixers have it's ups and downs. I've used both plenty of times. I love the sound quality of the Xone, but I'm not a fan of the cueing system. However, I really can't stand the curves on the faders. You really can't hear the next track unless your fader is almost all the way up. That bothers me because I play different genres of music. However, when mixing house, prog or techno, a rotary Xone 92 is sick. A huge plus on the Xone is it's many output options. I belive in the Xone you can output up to two channels pre-mix. That's awesome! However, I like the pioneer for it's simplicity. It's cueing system is pretty straight forward and the layout is pretty clean. I also spin Spanish Rock, Top 40 & Mashups so the faders work perfect for those styles. The effects are cool, but I rarely use them. Honestly, I bought the pioneer for it's ease of use and because I do sound at many clubs I know I would be able to rent it out more than the Xone. Up to this date, I haven't had a single request for Xone 92, but I had tons of requests for the DJM800.

I really don't know what you're on about here, but the faders on every Xone mixer I have ever played on hardly needed to be all the way up to hear the incoming track (check the systems you're playing on before blaming the mixer), beyond that I have absolutely no idea how in fucks name you (or anyone else, really) can justify saying that a DJM is better suited to different styles of music, especially "Spanish Rock, Top 40, and Mashups" than any other mixer.

The only people who complain about any mixer's "ease of use" versus any other mixer are those who don't take the time to learn the equipment they're using.

Oh, and people more concerned with renting a mixer out to make money than actually playing on it.

I went the DJM route, simply because all the clubs around here have DJMs and I wanted that to be what I was used to playing on. That logic has served me well so far.

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Originally posted by RJT That makes perfect sense - bad taste in music, bad taste in gear. I suppose for Unicorn trance or McProg, a DJM 800 is a DJ's wet dream - it's a bare bones mixer with wretched sound quality (that oddly makes the music sound better) and horrible EQ curves, BUT with the simple turn of a knob even the most tone-deaf of DJ's can avoid key clashes for those random 16 notes where you might have misphrased a bassline and have competing frequencies. And let's not forget that flanger - the only effect that will ever be used on countless 800's the world over. What would trance be without that flange?!? For everyone else, however, there are plenty of better choices - and certainly not just Allen & Heath choices. I just don't see how an educated consumer or DJ can prefer a DJM 800 to the literally dozens of better options out there. Oh wait, it's got loads of pretty lights too. Nevermind. DJM 800 OR BUST, MANG! 4 LAIFE! EDIT: FLANGING FOREVER! NEVER FORGET!

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Originally posted by RJT It never ceases to amaze me how many people complain about the cueing system on Xone's in general - I can understand *maybe* complaining about it on the 62 or 32, but FFS - the system on the 92 is EXACTLY THE SAME AS ON A DJM! I really don't know what you're on about here, but the faders on every Xone mixer I have ever played on hardly needed to be all the way up to hear the incoming track (check the systems you're playing on before blaming the mixer), beyond that I have absolutely no idea how in fucks name you (or anyone else, really) can justify saying that a DJM is better suited to different styles of music, especially "Spanish Rock, Top 40, and Mashups" than any other mixer. The only people who complain about any mixer's "ease of use" versus any other mixer are those who don't take the time to learn the equipment they're using. Oh, and people more concerned with renting a mixer out to make money than actually playing on it.

God damn dude, why do you have to be such a gigantic ass hole about it? You defend you're Xone as if someone insulted your dead mom and pissed on her grave.

He prefers something different than you and that just destroys your world and now you must bash his opinions and likes just because he doesn't like what YOU like.

I've never seen someone flip out so much over something so stupid.

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its tranceaddict...what do you expect

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Originally posted by colombian raver God damn dude, why do you have to be such a gigantic ass hole about it? You defend you're Xone as if someone insulted your dead mom and pissed on her grave. He prefers something different than you and that just destroys your world and now you must bash his opinions and likes just because he doesn't like what YOU like. I've never seen someone flip out so much over something so stupid.

Probably because he see's a new DJM vs Xone thread every other day. Usually ending with the majority leaning towards the 800 (pretty much proven to be the inferior mixer, in sound quality and build), due to so many jocks loving the cheesy effects unit built in.

Though I haven't used either myself, I own a DJM-400 & am already tired of the gimmicky effects that are built in, and have almost completely stopped using them. My next mixer will most definately be a Xone:92. It's the mixer that has everything I want/need & nothing that I don't.

If you really know how to mix and use the filters properly on the xone then it's better than the 800, but i like them both equally.

Both suck Xone too

DXM06 all the way

this thread had nothing to do with a xone!!!!

700 has this frequency thing thats pretty cool.....

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Originally posted by RJT That makes perfect sense - bad taste in music, bad taste in gear. I suppose for Unicorn trance or McProg, a DJM 800 is a DJ's wet dream - it's a bare bones mixer with wretched sound quality (that oddly makes the music sound better) and horrible EQ curves, BUT with the simple turn of a knob even the most tone-deaf of DJ's can avoid key clashes for those random 16 notes where you might have misphrased a bassline and have competing frequencies. And let's not forget that flanger - the only effect that will ever be used on countless 800's the world over. What would trance be without that flange?!? For everyone else, however, there are plenty of better choices - and certainly not just Allen & Heath choices. I just don't see how an educated consumer or DJ can prefer a DJM 800 to the literally dozens of better options out there. Oh wait, it's got loads of pretty lights too. Nevermind. DJM 800 OR BUST, MANG! 4 LAIFE! EDIT: FLANGING FOREVER! NEVER FORGET!

Seriously dude, fuck off. Woody is one of the most helpful people here, with more regular gigs than you I believe.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Seriously dude, fuck off. Woody is one of the most helpful people here, with more regular gigs than you I believe.

What does having more gigs than someone have to do with knowing about mixers and how to use them? If you used both multiple times then having X number of gigs means nothing.

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