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Posted by cl0ckw3rk on Jun-25-2008 07:03:

Velocity editing

In your experience, how often do you go through say a percussion loop and tweak the velocities of different hits? I understand EDM is more often "mechanical" (perhaps bad word choice), but do you guys do this often to spice up a rhythm or anything?


Posted by pwnage1 on Jun-25-2008 07:08:

Re: Velocity editing

I don't. when making a lets say hihat pattern instead of changing up the velocities i just find a different hihat sound. So simple answer would be No, I make up for it by using lots of different sounds some quite some louder.


Posted by G-Con on Jun-25-2008 07:33:

Yes with some hats, I'll definately alter the velocities with velocity affecting volume and/or filter cutoff.

I'd assume most people will do the same with some of their percs. There is no right or wrong as to how many hats you do this with. If it sounds good, it sounds good.


Posted by echosystm on Jun-25-2008 09:30:

it depends what kind of sound you are going for. generally if i am making a minimal techno/electro type song i won't. if i am making indie house or trance, then i almost definately will.


Posted by kitphillips on Jun-25-2008 11:39:

Embarassingly, I only just realised how important this is after I got my new keyboard
I was trying to emulate loops, and what I worked out I've been missing all this time was actually the velocity sensitivity on the hats.... So yes VERY important unless your making maybe some types of music.


Posted by pwnage1 on Jun-25-2008 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Embarassingly, I only just realised how important this is after I got my new keyboard
I was trying to emulate loops, and what I worked out I've been missing all this time was actually the velocity sensitivity on the hats.... So yes VERY important unless your making maybe some types of music.
Embarasingly i just realized this after this thread. It will be something to try out in the future.


Posted by cl0ckw3rk on Jun-25-2008 17:48:

See I thought about it after getting the feeling that even though it IS EDM, some of my percs weren't achieving any real interesting "rhythmic drive," even though the sounds fit well together. I'm gonna experiment with slight variations in the velocity to see if it adds anything to it


Posted by Eric J on Jun-25-2008 19:06:

Sometimes running hi-hat lines (or anything else) through certain plugins can create a ton of rhythmic interest as well. I know I'll frequently run things like static hi-hat patterns through CamelSpace and get some really interesting rhythmic effects. CamelSpace is great for stuff like that.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jun-25-2008 20:22:

as long as i work with redrum in reason i have three diferent vols.


Posted by DigiNut on Jun-25-2008 23:05:

Not much sense in altering the volume of a kick or a snare/clap (unless it's a breaks track).

Everything else, for sure. Simply because it's "electronic" music isn't an excuse to make it sound completely mechanical.

Unless you're producing electro, in which case... I guess it is an excuse.


Posted by cl0ckw3rk on Jun-25-2008 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Not much sense in altering the volume of a kick or a snare/clap (unless it's a breaks track).

Everything else, for sure. Simply because it's "electronic" music isn't an excuse to make it sound completely mechanical.

Unless you're producing electro, in which case... I guess it is an excuse.


It just makes so much sense when you look at it that way lol...thanks digi


Posted by sm44 on Jun-25-2008 23:26:

I try and alter velocity on everything
Even the kick and snare if i want a driving tribal feel on the off beats

Basslines especially if its a 1/16th type bassline or especially important for rolling basslines

Synths

And especially percussion

I think it adds a lot more drive and rhythm to a track

But it is time consuming at times


Posted by kitphillips on Jun-26-2008 03:11:

I would definately add velocity on the snare... Not on the kick though usually unless its in a big kick buildup or something.


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Jun-26-2008 04:13:

Mostly just for hats and tambourine when I use it. Although a lot of other lines have been known to use velocity modulation. It all depends on the flavor.

And yes, I consider it very important to making something sound right.


Posted by sm44 on Jun-27-2008 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
I would definately add velocity on the snare... Not on the kick though usually unless its in a big kick buildup or something.


I find for a more tribal beat and feel velocity helps alot.
Not on the K---K---K---K but more K--kK---K--kK
If you get what i mean



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