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Posted by tranceDJ on May-21-2002 04:12:

Daniel Pearl

For those of you who don't know, Daniel Pearl was a journalist in Pakistan when he was abducted by a radical Pakastani group. The group sent a request to the US asking them to release the prisoners from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. They said if this was not done, Pearl would be killed.

The US was unsure about Pearl until a video was sent to them. In the video Pearl talks about himself and then he is seen being brutally executed. The video ends with the demands of the Pakistani group. Pearl's wife is also pregnant.

Why do innocent people like Pearl need to die? It deeply sickens me that this kind of thing can even happen in the world we live in. I don't hate anybody as a result of this because that is what the terrorists want you to do, hate them like they hate us.

War and hate is so pointless. I just can't believe we live in a world where things like this happen.


Posted by lMIlk on May-21-2002 04:18:

this happend like 2 months ago?


Posted by tranceDJ on May-21-2002 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by lMIlk
this happend like 2 months ago?


Yes, it did. Heres the thing though: I never paid much attention when it was on the news and today someone posted the video on here (if you are wondering, that thread was deleted). Me being interested and not really knowing exactly what to expect since I really didn't know what happened, watched the video. So to say, I was appalled and figured I would create this thread to tell people who didn't know about this what happened.

I also mean to spout off some anger about how such senseless things happen in this world.


Posted by Damo on May-21-2002 04:24:

yeah, the way he died was shitty.. but people die everyday in the world... and not from natural causes... why should we hold pearl up on a pedastal? death is death... and the world goes on.... no use in letting it affect you...


Posted by tranceDJ on May-21-2002 04:30:

What you say is true but seeing that just had such an impact on me. And how a group abducted an innocent person and killed him because the US wouldn't meet their demands, I just find that terrible.


Posted by AnotherWay83 on May-21-2002 06:20:

sad, but these kinds of things have been going on forever...u just don't hear about the other cases


Posted by Tranex02 on May-21-2002 06:38:

quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
sad, but these kinds of things have been going on forever...u just don't hear about the other cases


tell me about it.... if you find this sadening then your in for a deep shock.

I understand your feelings but your just making a big deal out of this...

you find it terrible that they did such a thing cuz the US didn't meent there demand...
you have people killed daily for things much more useless than that....


Posted by capricorn15 on May-21-2002 07:25:

well, lots of innocent people are dying over there right now too, so yea, war is disgusting, its sick


Posted by fastmp3 on May-21-2002 07:50:

i saw the vid and almost puked ... but in the same time i was thinking of all the innocents dying because of the us hegemonia ...


Posted by TranceGiant on May-21-2002 17:27:

btw. pearl had to speak in front of the camera saying "i am jewish, so are my parents".

that for those u come up with the "arabs cannot be antisemites" myth...


(without any intention of starting a new mid-east-thread)


Posted by fastmp3 on May-21-2002 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
btw. pearl had to speak in front of the camera saying "i am jewish, so are my parents".

that for those u come up with the "arabs cannot be antisemites" myth...


(without any intention of starting a new mid-east-thread)



pakis aren't arabs as far as i know ...

arabs and jews are the same ... that's why they say we are cousins


Posted by tranceDJ on May-21-2002 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
i saw the vid and almost puked ... but in the same time i was thinking of all the innocents dying because of the us hegemonia ...


I felt the same way...I really wished I hadn't watched it even though it's given me kind of a new perspective on things.


Posted by TranceGiant on May-21-2002 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3



pakis aren't arabs as far as i know ...

arabs and jews are the same ... that's why they say we are cousins


pakies are mainly pashtuns as far as i know. yet the terrorist groups who settle down in those countries (afghanistan, pakistan, uzbekistan) are arabs. 80% of the al quaida are arabs.
and saying we are "the same" is not correct. in fact we just have the same ethnic origins..well whatever


Posted by bumbum on May-21-2002 21:43:

http://download.consumptionjunction...dia/cj_9833.ram


Posted by capricorn15 on May-21-2002 22:55:

yes bumbum, i saw it at consumptionjunction yesterday, pretty sick video, but if you check some of the stuff they have there, there have been more disgusting videos in teh past, when i first saw a video like that i almost threw up, and i felt sick in my stomach, but this video, i agree it was disgusting, but i dont get sick in the stomach anymore unless it is really really really graphic and better quality, gosh just saying that i dont feel sick by these videos anymore makes me feel bad, ohw ell


Posted by fastmp3 on May-21-2002 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant and saying we are "the same" is not correct. in fact we just have the same ethnic origins..well whatever


that what i wanted to say , we have the same ethnic background , which means no one is better than the other


Posted by TranceGiant on May-21-2002 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3


that what i wanted to say , we have the same ethnic background , which means no one is better than the other


AGREE
never said anything else


Posted by Tranex02 on May-22-2002 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
pakies are mainly pashtuns as far as i know. yet the terrorist groups who settle down in those countries (afghanistan, pakistan, uzbekistan) are arabs. 80% of the al quaida are arabs.


the people in those countries are NOT arabs...and the terrorist group that caught Pearl did not consist of arabs...

the terrorist groups that settle in those countries do not consist of arabs, for the most part.

People who are considered 'arabs' extend only to Iraq, not after that.


Posted by Tranex02 on May-22-2002 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
that what i wanted to say , we have the same ethnic background , which means no one is better than the other



well, you have arab jews and non-arab jews....which makes a difference... culture-wise.


why would Anyone be better than anyone else in the first place...???


Posted by tranceDJ on May-22-2002 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by bumbum
link deleted


Bumbum, why do you feel the need to post this? Nobody needs to see this, it's very disturbing.

What is your opinion on this too?


Posted by Dmatrox on May-22-2002 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ


Bumbum, why do you feel the need to post this? Nobody needs to see this, it's very disturbing.

What is your opinion on this too?


I wanted to see it, im still downloading it, but people need to see it to realize what sons of fucking bastards are out there.


Posted by Damo on May-22-2002 01:52:

no, they just need to come to grips with reality and the fact that millions of deaths have occured like that over the ages.....


Posted by bumbum on May-22-2002 02:08:

ppl have to see this video to realize what we dealing with how evil these ppl are


Posted by Dmatrox on May-22-2002 02:10:

Well, i just saw the video, not as bad as i expected. There was only 3 or 4 seconds of his head being slashed off, but generally, it was probably edited.

At the end, it says, "Americans will never be safe on muslim land"

hmm, that says a lot about these people.

I feel sorry for the guys wife. Its too bad those prisoners will not be killed the same way in Gauntanemo bay, Cuba like Daniel Pearal.


Posted by Dmatrox on May-22-2002 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by bumbum
ppl have to see this video to realize what we dealing with how evil these ppl are



Yeah i agree. If this video were showed on national television with the more unedited killing part, i think many americans would like kill pakistany type people for being from Pakistan, like those people killed peral for being american/jewish, however, we do like in a civilized society.


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