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Posted by Zewad on Jul-04-2008 16:04:

New laptop

c0r..

i bought a new laptop a couple days ago b/c it was such a good price at Best Buy, but I haven't opened it yet b/c i'm wanting to read more reviews on it and hear other peoples opinions.. there is a 15% restocking fee if i open it so it stays sealed for now...

Gateway M-6846 - 15.4 screen, 1.8GHz processor, 4GB RAM, 320GB HD for $723.99 and then the $279.99 service plan... (im going to Iraq again so i need a new comptuer for the trip and the service plan will cover all accidents except for submersion in water)

anything better out there for that price or is this a POS in a box i bought and i need to be weary???

i already talked to Ben about this and value your great opinions..


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-04-2008 16:09:

Gateway are shit. And be more specific with the Processor.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-04-2008 16:12:

processor's kinda slow at first glance but it sounds like a decent deal for 700 bucks. gateways are shit though, as mike said


Posted by Zewad on Jul-04-2008 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Gateway are shit. And be more specific with the Processor.


ive had a gateway for 4.5 years and its been great..

intel core 2 duo processor T5550 2MB L2 Cache, 1.83GHz, 667MHz FSB

no idea what any of that means


Posted by Zewad on Jul-04-2008 16:13:

so how do processor and RAM differ?

i thought the higher RAM you have the faster it is?


btw the RAM on my laptop now is 512mb and i have a 1.5GHz processor


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jul-04-2008 16:17:

si and non in a way.
it looks like a good price. the one thing i am suspect is the shared video memory. i am one who likes the video memory seperate from the physical memory.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-04-2008 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Zewad
ive had a gateway for 4.5 years and its been great..

intel core 2 duo processor T5550 2MB L2 Cache, 1.83GHz, 667MHz FSB

no idea what any of that means


A 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo is better than a 1.8 GHz Celeron for example. In other words, I was hoping you'd post what you did - that's good. Overall, it's an okay laptop. I don't know if it's good value as I'm not in touch with the American market.

And yes, the more RAM the better. Although if you're using XP (which I recommend you downgrade to) then 4Gb is a bit excessive as 32bit version of XP will only make use of 2Gb of it. That's not a problem though.

Edit: As long as you're not playing games on it, it should do everything you're probably hoping it will.


Posted by Zewad on Jul-04-2008 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
A 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo is better than a 1.8 GHz Celeron for example. In other words, I was hoping you'd post what you did - that's good. Overall, it's an okay laptop. I don't know if it's good value as I'm not in touch with the American market.

And yes, the more RAM the better. Although if you're using XP (which I recommend you downgrade to) then 4Gb is a bit excessive as 32bit version of XP will only make use of 2Gb of it. That's not a problem though.


yeah, it comes with 64bit vista... and btw what is the difference between 32bit and 64bit vistas or XPs? and i hear often that vista is shit, but why?

oh.. and i only use the computer for storage of music, vids, pics, word docs... surf the net... no video editing and no game playing.. well i do play tetris


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-04-2008 16:32:

Vista is sluggish, it looks shit and fruity, and lots of older software and hardware won't work with it. It's a total memory hog, and it won't ever become the industry standard OS. It won't be long before we start seeing glimpses of Windows 7. Vista will in all likeliness eventually be cast aside just like Windows ME was.

XP Pro is about as stable as a Microsoft product has ever been and uses fuck all memory in comparison. Everything will run A LOT quicker, even if all your RAM isn't being used.


Posted by Capitalizt on Jul-04-2008 19:58:

First of all, that extended warranty plan is an absolute ripoff. You already have a 1 yr manufacturer warranty, and the way technology prices keep dropping, you will likely be able to buy an equally powered laptop 3 years from now for the price you paid for the warranty alone. It's not worth it.

If you insist on having a 3 year warranty, I found a MUCH better deal for you. It's $300 cheaper AND it's faster than your machine:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...c=blcwnhc&s=bsd



Just make sure you uninstall all the messenger programs and other junkware Dell bundles with most PCs. Once you do that, it will be blazing.


Posted by Dervish on Jul-04-2008 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
First of all, that extended warranty plan is an absolute ripoff. You already have a 1 yr manufacturer warranty, and the way technology prices keep dropping, you will likely be able to buy an equally powered laptop 3 years from now for the price you paid for the warranty alone. It's not worth it.

If you insist on having a 3 year warranty, I found a MUCH better deal for you. It's $300 cheaper AND it's faster than your machine:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...c=blcwnhc&s=bsd



Just make sure you uninstall all the messenger programs and other junkware Dell bundles with most PCs. Once you do that, it will be blazing.


Agreed unless you really reckon there is a 1/3 chance of you totaling it lol!!!

The L2 cache is memory on the processor which has a lot lower latency than ram. Basically higher the better but after a point is pointless. (if thats what you were meaning)

Otherwise is kinda complicated but a duo is a very decent chip.


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-04-2008 20:24:

should be good if all you want to do is browse the internet and watch porn on windows media player


Posted by r5a on Jul-04-2008 21:01:

- Gateways are shit. Agreed with Mike.

- Both ram and CPU (processor) are critical. If either one are slow, your system will be slow. Your CPU handles every single component in your computer along with doing lots of operations, if this is slow, your whole system is. Ram is important for applications, basically, to make them run faster and load quicker.

- It's a total memory hog. It is the way it pages ram. Most applications get a lot of ram which is why you see much usage, however when a memory intensive application comes in, Vista dumps the ram into the page file freeing for that application. It's not as bad as you think.

32bit uses up to 4.
64bit uses 4+.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/overview.mspx

- Core 2 Duo is an amazing proc.

- anyway, you don't need much power at all. 1GB (2gb ideal) min ram, get a nice dual core proc, phenoms, core 2 duos, anything with dual core will be good enough for your usage. worry about hd space. with what you want to do, you dont need to spend an arm and leg on it. so i think you'd be happy with your purchase. id suggest an HP though.


Posted by Zewad on Jul-04-2008 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
First of all, that extended warranty plan is an absolute ripoff. You already have a 1 yr manufacturer warranty, and the way technology prices keep dropping, you will likely be able to buy an equally powered laptop 3 years from now for the price you paid for the warranty alone. It's not worth it.

If you insist on having a 3 year warranty, I found a MUCH better deal for you. It's $300 cheaper AND it's faster than your machine:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...c=blcwnhc&s=bsd



Just make sure you uninstall all the messenger programs and other junkware Dell bundles with most PCs. Once you do that, it will be blazing.


thanks for the input... this is why i post this in the c0r to get feedback...

a couple things though...
1st- i got the service plan b/c it covers accidental drops and/or damage i cause to it... which the Dell plan does and me going to Iraq again I can forsee something of this magnitude happening
2nd- there was not an option for any hard drive space over 120GB and i need at least 200GB and cant use an external HD b/c I'll be moving it around from time to time and space is very very limited, plus I wont exactly be using it on a desk or such surfaces to accomidate extra wires...
3rd- that screen is 15in where i like the 15.4widescreen

good input... keep it coming


Posted by Capitalizt on Jul-04-2008 23:45:

Are you sure you'll need more than 120GB? Honestly? I download tons of music, movies, and porno on my 120GB and I still have 30GB left.

120 gigs is plenty of space for pretty much anything.


Posted by Project-K on Jul-04-2008 23:51:

I have 100 gigs free on my 120gig HD.


Posted by Zewad on Jul-04-2008 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
Are you sure you'll need more than 120GB? Honestly? I download tons of music, movies, and porno on my 120GB and I still have 30GB left.

120 gigs is plenty of space for pretty much anything.


zero porno... and over 120GB on laptop and external HD now...

ive decicded to stick with the computer and the service plan...the manufacturer's warranty doesnt cover dropping or sand or incidental damage... going to iraq in a month so i want that coverage..

they also mentioned something about norton antivirus and spyware, but i told the guy that im my own anti virus and am aware of what i download.... but it got me thinking .. am i cocky and then within a month i brick the damn thing??

http://www.symantec.com/norton/antivirus

http://www.symantec.com/norton/internet-security <--tbills recommened this one... but im worried it'll be overkill or do i even need one at all??


Posted by r5a on Jul-05-2008 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Zewad
zero porno... and over 120GB on laptop and external HD now...

ive decicded to stick with the computer and the service plan...the manufacturer's warranty doesnt cover dropping or sand or incidental damage... going to iraq in a month so i want that coverage..

they also mentioned something about norton antivirus and spyware, but i told the guy that im my own anti virus and am aware of what i download.... but it got me thinking .. am i cocky and then within a month i brick the damn thing??

http://www.symantec.com/norton/antivirus

http://www.symantec.com/norton/internet-security <--tbills recommened this one... but im worried it'll be overkill or do i even need one at all??
Symantec is no good. I've used both the Corperate and the Home editions for awhile.

NOD32 or Avast.
Kaspersky is pretty good as well.


Posted by getfoul on Jul-05-2008 20:28:

Pshhhh you PC users. I just bought a MacBook with a 2.4 core duo, 250 gig HD, 4 gigs of ram, 8x Dual layer DVD burner and a free 16 gig iPod Touch for 1300.

//Goes back to XCode and Eclipse


Posted by kamil on Jul-05-2008 21:08:

I'm buying either an Acer Aspire One or an MSI Wind.


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on Jul-05-2008 21:21:

Im going to say no on the Gateway. I know a lot of people that had bad experience with them back in the day. In fact, I didnt even know they made computers anymore. I thought they'd given that up.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-05-2008 21:25:

Look at Mikey Mike nerding it up in here. What a fag.


Posted by klingklang77 on Jul-06-2008 02:10:

Why are you going back to Iraq?



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