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Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-04-2008 21:27:

Tour De France 2008

Any cycling fans around here, ready for the bigest race of the season?


Posted by Txebe on Jul-05-2008 14:05:

oh yeah!! Alejandro Valverde rules!

Alberto Contador can't participate. it sucks.


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-05-2008 14:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Txebe
oh yeah!! Alejandro Valverde rules!


He peaked too soon I'm afraid. He was already in top form during the Dauphin�, so I'm afraid he'll pay the price for that in the last - and decisive - week of the Tour.

But he's surely a contender for today's stage and the first yellow jersey.


Posted by Txebe on Jul-05-2008 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
But he's surely a contender for today's stage and the first yellow jersey.

it is!!!


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-05-2008 20:37:

Quite an impressive acceleration he showed, easily countering Kirchen and withstanding Gilbert, two riders that are specialised in this kind of finishes as well. I'm interested to see if he can do the same thing tomorrow, on a similar finish.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Jul-06-2008 11:17:

I'm looking for Menchov or Evans to take it this year. Anyone else and they would need to do something special (to justify/deserve it) in my eyes. Evans really deserved to win last year - - but thanks to Dertie Contador it was over.

Hopefully history wont repeat itself. What happened to Rasmussen last year was humiliating.

And a real shame that Boogerd is no longer competing!


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-06-2008 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Anyone else and they would need to do something special (to justify/deserve it) in my eyes.

My thoughts exactly. Well, Sastre maybe, but his timetrialling will be his one fatal flaw once again.


Posted by magik8 on Jul-06-2008 22:04:

valverde will not hold that yellow jersey to paris.
Wait till the mountains show up, like the Massif Central and the Pyrenees. I think valverde will loose some places then and Evans, Kirchen and Menchov will take the highest places then. Maybe Sastre also.


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-07-2008 08:56:

I expect a high rank for Zubeldia as well this year. He's been climbing better than ever this year, he's amazingly constant (will never lose 5 minutes in a mountain stage due to a bad day), and the smaller amount of timetrial kilometres is also in his advantage.


Posted by Txebe on Jul-07-2008 16:32:

Haimar Zubeld�a? I hope see the best Carlos Sastre.


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-07-2008 17:46:

He'll need his best legs if he wants to take on Evans, Menchov and Valverde


Posted by partyhopper on Jul-11-2008 04:16:

Nice showing by the 2 American teams so far, with one team (Columbia) holding the yellow and white jerseys, and the other (Garmin-Chipotle) leading the team classification.


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-11-2008 08:26:

Yeah, but Garmin hasn't really won actually this far, so I bet they'd trade that team classification for a stage win anytime

After yesterday's performance, Evans looks even more the favourite to take the yellow jersey in Paris


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-14-2008 14:36:

Looks indeed like Valverde peaked too soon this year. And Cunego's letting down as well...

Let's see how CSC finishes off the work they've been doing all day. I think this could be Andy Schleck's day, he's been showing excellent form the past days. But Sastre seems determined to make a good performance on Hautacam as well. And what to say about Ricco...


Posted by nettwerk on Jul-14-2008 16:44:

Nope, Andy is out of it too.
Let's see how Evans performs on the Alps with a 1s gap over Frank Schleck.


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-14-2008 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by nettwerk
Nope, Andy is out of it too.

That came a bit as a surprise for me actually Let's hope he can still find the force to go for a stage win.

And although Evans' team isn't that strong (Popovych disappoints massively, the Silence management won't be happy with that), I think he'll be the victor in Paris. Only Menchov and Sastre seem to have what it takes to keep up with him, but they still need to close the gap in the GC. And only Sastre has the team for that, Menchov is as isolated as Evans. And what to think of Ricco? He has the team, but will he be able to keep this form until Paris, seeing he has already given it all in the past Giro?


Posted by nettwerk on Jul-14-2008 23:30:

My money is on the two CSC men, Sastre and F. Schleck, mainly because they have a great team behind them, they seem to be in a good form (sure, Schleck dropped off the Saulnier Duval duo, but I'm to think it had more tactics than other thing)... and that Evans is almost alone in the Tour.
Huge letdown for me today was Valverde, wasn't expecting him to drop out of the main group even before the end of the Col du Tourmalet climb and to lose six minutes to Piepoli... let's see if the rest day is good to him and the Caisse d'Epargne team.
Ricco... I dunno what to think of him. Didn't watch the Giro, so I couldn't ses his performance there, but I think it's a bit too early for him to grab the yellow jersey this year. Next one, though...


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-15-2008 09:34:

Ah, but Evans has the on thing the CSC men lack: an excellent timetrail. Especially the next one over more than 50 kilometres will be decisive so close after the Alps. Even if Evans has lost time on Sastre and Schleck, he can easily make up 3 minutes or more. And honestly, I don't see the CSC guys taking that much time on Evans. Sastre hasn't got his explosivity anymore, and Schleck still needs to prove he can maintain a high form throughout the full 3 weeks. Therefore I fear Menchov the most. He's uphill pretty much in the same league as Evans, and he's also an excellent timetrialist. So if he's still within a minute or so of Evans after the Alps, anything can happen. It would be nice to have a final timetrial again like the one last year

And Valverde still claims that yesterday's loss was expected and not at all fatal, but I have my doubts about that...


Posted by nettwerk on Jul-15-2008 11:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
Ah, but Evans has the on thing the CSC men lack: an excellent timetrail. Especially the next one over more than 50 kilometres will be decisive so close after the Alps. Even if Evans has lost time on Sastre and Schleck, he can easily make up 3 minutes or more. And honestly, I don't see the CSC guys taking that much time on Evans. Sastre hasn't got his explosivity anymore, and Schleck still needs to prove he can maintain a high form throughout the full 3 weeks. Therefore I fear Menchov the most. He's uphill pretty much in the same league as Evans, and he's also an excellent timetrialist. So if he's still within a minute or so of Evans after the Alps, anything can happen. It would be nice to have a final timetrial again like the one last year

I don't know... if Evans happens to have a bad day at the Alps, if the CSC guys can provide a performance like yesterday, they could get a good gap before the last days. But yeah, it's a lot of "if's"; however, for the sake of the argument, I'll keep my bet

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
And Valverde still claims that yesterday's loss was expected and not at all fatal, but I have my doubts about that...

Five minutes are five minutes, I don't think it would be impossible to bridge that gap and fight for the yellow jersey... but for Valverde, however, I'd say it is impossible. Even if he managed to get close to Evans, Schleck, Menchov, Sastre, he'd still lose time like hell in the final TT, so yeah, he's pretty much out of it. Better start fighting for a top-ten place...

Almost forgot: another disappointment yesterday was Zubeldia. For a top-ten finisher last year, losing 25 minutes on the first real hard mountain stage is completely blowing up chances of another good TdF.


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-17-2008 11:25:

Ricco tested positive for 3rd generation EPO, after the first timetrial in Cholet. He's taken out of the Tour, and his entire team abandons the race as well. How stupid can one be?


Posted by partyhopper on Jul-18-2008 20:16:

4 stage wins for Cavendish!


Posted by verndogs on Jul-18-2008 21:59:

I'm glad it's only 3 people who got busted for doping so far as of now......


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Jul-18-2008 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by partyhopper
4 stage wins for Cavendish!

He's truly a phenomenon
Tomorrow he might even take his 5th win, if he can survive that 4th category climb at 10 kilometres from the finish line. But I don't see him going all the way to Paris this year, not after he's ridden the entire Giro and with his Olympic ambitions. But I don't see who can stop him from winning the green jersey next year.


Posted by The_G0dfather on Jul-19-2008 09:39:

Piepoli also got sacked for violating the ethical code, now we know how the old man did it...


Posted by The_G0dfather on Jul-19-2008 09:41:

Piepoli also got sacked for violating the ethical code, now we know how the old man did it...


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