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Posted by Alan2008 on Jul-09-2008 14:18:

Virus Ti Keyboard question...

Ok so i'm planning on buying one of these in the near future... thing is i also plan to upgrade my 800's to 1000's and i can't afford both. My main priority would be the Virus TI so does anybody know where i can purchase cheap ones? Uk Shipping needs to be available also! Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Posted by Ry Thomas on Jul-09-2008 14:41:

Get one imported from USA, try Ebay

Posted by StanVoid on Jul-09-2008 14:42:

ebay? also - if you want to save money, buy the rack, not the keyboard. you can get a $100 midi keyboard that will do the same exact thing, or you can pay an extra 300 bucks just to have that keyboard on the virus TI directly.

also - may i ask why you're upgrading your cdj's from 800 to 1000? I'm actually looking to purchase pioneer cdj's at the moment, but i want to start out with the 200's just to try them out. I'm wondering if i'm missing anything essential or important by not purchasing the more recent pioneer models...

Posted by Alan2008 on Jul-09-2008 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by StanVoid
also - may i ask why you're upgrading your cdj's from 800 to 1000? I'm actually looking to purchase pioneer cdj's at the moment, but i want to start out with the 200's just to try them out. I'm wondering if i'm missing anything essential or important by not purchasing the more recent pioneer models...

Finer pitch resolution and wave form map. 800's and 1000's aren't really much different from each other. Personally i would go for the 800's instead of the 200's. Your getting a good bit more for your bucks. Cheers for the answer by the way man. I might acctually go for just a Polar now though...still need to decide.

Posted by StanVoid on Jul-09-2008 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Alan2008
Finer pitch resolution and wave form map.

i thought both 200 & 800 have .02 pitch resolution at the +/-6% setting?

Posted by Alan2008 on Jul-09-2008 18:05:

I'm not sure what the 200 has but the 1000's have better than the 800. I forget precisely what it is though

Posted by Storyteller on Jul-09-2008 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by StanVoid
i thought both 200 & 800 have .02 pitch resolution at the +/-6% setting?

800's only have 10% and 100% pitch. No 6%.

Posted by atxbigballer1 on Jul-09-2008 19:44:

the a virus rack and cdj 400!

Posted by Owsey on Jul-09-2008 21:46:

I've been looking for cheap Virus Ti's in the uk too...no luck though

I don't think the upgrade from the 800's to the 1000's is worth it. I done it not so long ago and haven't had much benefit. You could easily use the 1000's in a club with only owning the 800's

Posted by CReddick on Jul-09-2008 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Owsey2008
I don't think the upgrade from the 800's to the 1000's is worth it.

I agree depending on the situation. If this is for DJ'ing at home in your bedroom, who cares. If you're roading these players out to gigs, clubs, parties, etc... go for it.

Posted by Alan2008 on Jul-10-2008 11:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
Get one imported from USA, try Ebay

Could you recommend any sites? And I sorta want warranty on it so Ebays sadly out of the question

Posted by Theran on Jul-10-2008 12:32:

quote:
Originally posted by StanVoid
I'm wondering if i'm missing anything essential or important by not purchasing the more recent pioneer models...

The difference is in the accuracy of the newer models. It's true though.
I think mostly that it's a mental thing, CDJ1000's are the standards (just like the technics are for turntable's).

If I where you, I'd get the 800's instead of the 200's. The 200's are excellent to, but the 800's give you a more turntable feeling (the 1000's even more). But if you never played with turntables, it really doesn't matter!

Posted by Owsey on Jul-10-2008 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Theran
The 200's are excellent to, but the 800's give you a more turntable feeling (the 1000's even more). But if you never played with turntables, it really doesn't matter

Posted by Storyteller on Jul-10-2008 17:35:

IMO the difference in 'turntable feeling' between 800s and 1000s is neglible.

Posted by Owsey on Jul-11-2008 14:06:

This has turned into an 800 vs 1000 thread...

Posted by StanVoid on Jul-11-2008 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Owsey2008
This has turned into an 800 vs 1000 thread...

haha sorry!

Posted by Owsey on Jul-12-2008 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by StanVoid
haha sorry!

Posted by Alan2008 on Jul-15-2008 17:32:

Changed my mind...going for the Polar...any advice?

Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-15-2008 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Alan2008
Changed my mind...going for the Polar...any advice?

i upgraded from a desktop to a polar and love it! some of the best feeling keys i've ever owned, plus it's a jaw dropping look of a synth. is it worth the extra $$? i dunno... for me it is but if you're tight on money then maybe the less bells & whistles will do you just fine.

Posted by Magnus on Jul-16-2008 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by StanVoid
ebay? also - if you want to save money, buy the rack, not the keyboard. you can get a $100 midi keyboard that will do the same exact thing, or you can pay an extra 300 bucks just to have that keyboard on the virus TI directly.

also - may i ask why you're upgrading your cdj's from 800 to 1000? I'm actually looking to purchase pioneer cdj's at the moment, but i want to start out with the 200's just to try them out. I'm wondering if i'm missing anything essential or important by not purchasing the more recent pioneer models...

This is good advice and is exactly what I did. All you are paying for with the keyboard is the keys and your paying 1000 bucks for those keys. The desktop is identical function wise so just buy a keyboard and save some major $$$.

Posted by Alan2008 on Jul-16-2008 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
some of the best feeling keys i've ever owned, plus it's a jaw dropping look of a synth.

Some of the reasons why I want it so badly

By the way... is it true that FL is an annoyin bastard when it comes to hardware?

Posted by counterfeiter on Jul-19-2008 19:23:

Look into the Virus TI Snow, its priced around $1500.

Its essentially the same synth as the other TI series but in a small "desktop" format.
It can also handle all patches from the other TI synths.

Check out the demo at http://www.access-music.de/snow/

Posted by counterfeiter on Jul-19-2008 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Alan2008
Some of the reasons why I want it so badly

By the way... is it true that FL is an annoyin bastard when it comes to hardware?

I've been playing around with FL Studio 8 and I'm not a big fan of it.
After playing around with Ableton Live and really liked the way I was able to write music and the "flow". And I've found it much easier to use my external midi components like synths and controllers.

If you're not sure about which software to use give them all a fair shot. And check out YouTube for tutorials.

Posted by Alan2008 on Jul-21-2008 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by counterfeiter
I've been playing around with FL Studio 8 and I'm not a big fan of it.
After playing around with Ableton Live and really liked the way I was able to write music and the "flow". And I've found it much easier to use my external midi components like synths and controllers.

If you're not sure about which software to use give them all a fair shot. And check out YouTube for tutorials.

I have Ableton and FL 8 though to be honest I still prefer FL Though i'll still use ableton for certain aspects.

Posted by Sean Walsh on Jul-23-2008 16:55:

Finally got my gear setup after my move and got a chance to play with Atomizer.

Holy fuck I think I'm in love.

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