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La fin du Piknic? Un parcours de golf pour le remplacer...
Votre ville de Montr�al a tellement soif d'argent (p�age, contraventions, parcom�tres,...) qu'elle propose l'impensable!
Ceskberg and Associates is currently developping a new project in Canada, in partnership with the city of Montreal administration. The Club de Golf Le Ste-Helene will be a normal 72 golf course located on the Ste-Helene Island inside the Parc Jean-Drapeau. This beautifull site is located minutes away from downtown Montreal and is a 15 minutes walk from the Montreal Casino, La Ronde amusement park, and the Gilles Villeneuve Circuit, host of the F1 Grand Prix of Canada. If approved before October 2008, it should be ready for opening in the Summer of 2010.
The estimated construction costs of $125 million will mainly cover the acquisition of a section of the park, consctruction of the 18 holes, modifications to the Biosphere structure to include a Pro Shop and cantina. This will not interfere with the Environment Museum. Of course, the actual historical vocation of the site will not be altered at all. All existing infrastructures are kept and a large portion of the Park will still be freely available to everyone.
Ceskberg and Associates is also concerned about any environmental issue for this kind of project. As for example we use only biological manure for course construction and maintenance. Also, a team of experts selected by the local authorities will ensure that everything is done to minimize the environmental impacts of the whole construction process.
The Biosphere, host of the Environment Museum, is shaped like a Golf ball. (picture from W.T.)
Please visit the Contact section for any question or comment.
http://www.mtlurb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4632
http://ceskberg.com/p000022.html
p.s. le troue 14 tombe direct sur le site du piknic.
guess we can kick off tam-tams on sunday from the mountain
wow montreal wont have much if piknik goes....
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| Originally posted by Dj Nacht wow montreal wont have much if piknik goes.... |
oh no and I just discovered this amazing place.... Damnnnn
this is fucking stupid, who cares about golf. man there's 100s of golf courses, does it have to be right there in the middle of the island??
but I knew piknic was too good to be true....something was gonna come along and change things...maybe this will be it...maybe something else.
I like the jardin des floralies site, potential replacement?
Honestly the best news I've heard in a while!
However, the feathers in the city will get blown to somewhere else, they always do, I only hope they can open their minds and begin to support Montreals' locals.
This seems like a proposal and not something approved by the city... yet. (journal de montreal first page anyone?)
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| Originally posted by moevalith Honestly the best news I've heard in a while! However, the feathers in the city will get blown to somewhere else, they always do, I only hope they can open their minds and begin to support Montreals' locals. |
yo FUCK GOLF!!! most boring useless sport (if you can call it one) in the worlddd, whyyy??? Ill die without piknics thats ridiculous, i hope for them their plan is not gonna workout, fkn assholes. Id shove a gold club up their ass!!
I'm guessing that would mean no more Parc Jean Drapeau either...
that is a pretty significant outdoor venue for concerts and festivals over the summer months.
of course, all speculation right now
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| Originally posted by Alexx G yo FUCK GOLF!!! most boring useless sport (if you can call it one) in the worlddd, whyyy??? Ill die without piknics thats ridiculous, i hope for them their plan is not gonna workout, fkn assholes. Id shove a gold club of their ass!! |
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| Originally posted by Enigmatik + fuckin infinity! Why are they doing this to us!!..First they burn Stereo, and now they're trying to take away Piknic too?!! Assholes. |
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| Originally posted by moevalith Honestly the best news I've heard in a while! |
Bah...I'm not too worried.
Remember when they tried moving the Casino to Bassin Peel. They were supposed to have a permanent Cirque du Soleil show there, etc. It was an amazing project that was quickly canned because of a handful of people on welfare, complaining about losing their housing...and the general public complaining about having the casino closer to the city would lead to more pathological gambling and thus more socio-economic problems etc etc.
Of course I'm not comparing a downtown Casino project with a Golf course on parc jean drapeau...but the same thing will happen with this project. Wait till the environmentalists start screaming about losing a public parc. In Quebec, people want the government to throw all kinds of money at every services we use but they are against any types of revenue generating initiatives...
PJD is definitely one of Montreal's most precious assets..but I'm not against doing other initiatives to generate revenues for the city/gov on it. Remember that a big part of this island was built by man to host the expo 67. It was built to attract tourists in the first place.
I'm just sick of big projects being teared appart in this province because of the classic ''syndrome du petit peuple quebecois''...scared of big capitalist initiatives.
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| Originally posted by Passskal Bah...I'm not too worried. Remember when they tried moving the Casino to Bassin Peel. They were supposed to have a permanent Cirque du Soleil show there, etc. It was an amazing project that was quickly canned because of a handful of people on welfare, complaining about losing their housing...and the general public complaining about having the casino closer to the city would lead to more pathological gambling and thus more socio-economic problems etc etc. Of course I'm not comparing a downtown Casino project with a Golf course on parc jean drapeau...but the same thing will happen with this project. Wait till the environmentalists start screaming about losing a public parc. In Quebec, people want the government to throw all kinds of money at every services we use but they are against any types of revenue generating initiatives... PJD is definitely one of Montreal's most precious assets..but I'm not against doing other initiatives to generate revenues for the city/gov on it. Remember that a big part of this island was built by man to host the expo 67. It was built to attract tourists in the first place. I'm just sick of big projects being teared appart in this province because of the classic ''syndrome du petit peuple quebecois''...scared of big capitalist initiatives. |
fucking hippies man... je suis avec toi � 100%, je crois juste que c'est pas raisonnable d'avoir un golf l�... surtout quand il y a pleins de parcours au qu�bec qui ont ferm�s pour manque de joueur.
Si le parcours de golf fait faillite apr�s 5 ans, les arbres matures et le cachet du parc seront perdus pour un bout de temps.
bah !
ca fait des ans qu'ils parlent de ca
si la ville est pas capable de changer un nom de rue (Parc)
je pense pas qu'ils vont r�ussir � changer le PJD en terrain de golf lol
je suis pas trop inquiet
c'est clair que ca passera pas
remember parc du mont orford
so much drama for nothing
welcome to QUEBEC
"Le Qu�bec poss�de un des niveaux de libert� �conomique les plus bas en Am�rique du Nord, se classant 59e selon une nouvelle �tude de l'Institut Fraser. Seule l'�le-du-Prince-Edouard affiche un pire score."
Publi� hier dans la presse
Quelle honte
ps: fuck les hippies
Au Piknic, t� pas dans ton salon!
Deux ans plus tard, le texte qui suit demeure encore d�actualit�. Nous
ne passerons pas par quatre chemins. Est maintenant venu le temps de
serrer la vis.
Depuis ses touts d�buts, l�ambiance qui r�gne au Piknic est cr��e par
la compl�mentarit� d�un site enchanteur, d�une musique �lectronique de
qualit�, mais surtout d�une foule �clectique. Tout un chacun cherchant
� relaxer � sa fa�on, c�est par la compr�hension et une approche
non-prohibitive et humaine que l��kip Piknic a toujours g�r� la foule
dans ses �v�nements. Nous ne voulions pas faire la police et
compromettre le climat libertin et convivial de l��v�nement.
Cependant, au cours des derni�res semaines, nous avons constat� une
recrudescence de certains comportements qui d�passent, � nos yeux, les
limites, les bornes et les normes acceptables dans le contexte bien
pr�cis d�un �v�nement en plein air (et non un rave) d�di� � la musique
�lectronique.
Nous persistons et signons : un �v�nement d�di� � la musique
�lectronique, dans un parc public, avec des familles, des enfants et
des gens de tout horizon, de tout acabit. Le Piknic demeure ouvert �
tous, ind�pendamment de l'�ge, de la coupe de cheveux, du sexe, du
style vestimentaire, de la longueur des pieds ou de l'orientation
sexuelle et veut favoriser une image plus positive de la sc�ne
�lectronique montr�alaise.
L�effet de masse �tant un catalyseur de la b�tise humaine, certains
pikniqueurs, une minorit� sur les 4000 personnes hebdomadairement
pr�sentes � l��v�nement, vont au-del� de nos limites et nous force �
adopter d�s aujourd�hui une attitude qui m�nera probablement �
plusieurs expulsions.
Car vous savez (peut-�tre ne savez-vous pas), il n�en faut pas
beaucoup pour g�cher un Piknic! Il en faut tellement peu qu�une seule
personne suffit pour g�cher la journ�e de tout le monde. Une seule
personne.
Un insouciant qui distribue les � bumps � de K ou de coke � ses amis
sur la piste de danse au su et au vu de tous, parfois devant des
enfants.
Un pikniqueur tellement saoul qu�il reste debout par peur de tomber,
qui se croit tout permis et devient agressif ou d�sagr�able envers
notre personnel.
Le � cool dude � qui fait le bacon � terre, convuls� d�avoir
irresponsablement m�lang� son xi�me GHB avec de l�alcool, par une
journ�e ensoleill�e � 30 degr�s, sans avoir dormi, sans avoir rien
mang� ou bu, fr�lant la mort dans une ambulance qu�il n�a m�me pas eu
conscience d�avoir pris.
H�las, la r�cr�ation est termin�e.
On te surprend � consommer, tu seras expuls�.
Comme toujours, aucune transaction � m�me pour des amis � ne sera tol�r�e.
Tu as surconsomm�, on te donnera ton cong�.
Comme on nous le mart�le depuis des ann�es, la mod�ration a bien meilleur go�t!
Il y a une distinction entre faire la f�te et se d�foncer la face.
Tu veux consommer comme bon te semble, reste � la maison.
Tes limites ne sont pas n�cessairement les n�tres.
Behave! �a veut tout dire!
Au Piknic, t� pas dans ton salon!
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| Originally posted by ostrich Le � cool dude � qui fait le bacon � terre |
This.

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| Originally posted by zeKsg The GOLFERS are trying to take our EDM scene..... We have to fight back.. |
Well said Passskal!!!
turns out this is nothing but a big hoax
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/2...30/CPACTUALITES
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