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so I just built myself a new pc because it was time to upgrade. everything seems to be working smoothly except for one thing -- my pc won't shut off completely. I can restart the computer just fine, but when I hit shut down, it goes through its normal "windows is shutting down screen" and it seems like everything does shut down correctly. I can hear the hard drive turn off, the monitor loses signal, and the mouse and keyboard shuts off, but all the fans inside are still running.

at this point, if i push the power button the computer boots up as if it was shut down like it should. when the computer is "shut down" the power LED on the case is off, but the hdd LED is on with a solid light. if i click the mouse, the red light on the bottom turns on until i let go of the click.

i have 64-bit vista, but i don't think it's a driver issue because i reformatted the pc and even before installing a single driver it still happens. i'm not too familiar with working in the bios, but in the power settings all the "wake to xxxxx" settings are disabled.

cor version: when i shut down pc, everything shuts down but fans stay on. wtf is it.

Are you sure it's shutting down and not going into hibernate mode? Hibernate makes everything turn off except the fans..

If it isn't a problem with your OS settings, it's probably something wrong with the motherboard. Post your question here and you'll get some better answers:

http://forums.anandtech.com/categor...id=32&forumid=1

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Originally posted by StanVoid

The great thing is that it actually does work. I'd highly suggest deleting the system32 folder (sometimes it's hard to find as Windows likes to "hide" the folder but a quick search should bring it up). It's the folder that constantly tracks your internet traffic and will subtlety accrue spyware which severely slows down your system. It may also have a malicious trojan in it that isn't allowing your computer to shut down properly. It's one of the first things I do whenever I reinstall Windows, delete system32.

Apparently when Vista "shuts down," by default it can really just go to sleep on you and not really shut down all the way. Try this:

http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/05/18/h...-your-computer/

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Are you sure it's shutting down and not going into hibernate mode? Hibernate makes everything turn off except the fans.. If it isn't a problem with your OS settings, it's probably something wrong with the motherboard. Post your question here and you'll get some better answers: http://forums.anandtech.com/categor...id=32&forumid=1

Are you fucking stupid? Hibernate turns everything off, but saves the contents of memory to the hd for resume at a later date or time. No matter which option you choose, it shuts everything off except in standby/sleep mode memory still has power as this is needed to keep the memory state.

ugh too many fucking dumb people on these boards giving shit information about computers.

Zoso: if EVERYTHING is shutting off but the fans, that has nothing to do with being in standby/sleep mode. See above.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Are you fucking stupid? Hibernate turns everything off, but saves the contents of memory to the hd for resume at a later date or time. No matter which option you choose, it shuts everything off except in standby/sleep mode memory still has power as this is needed to keep the memory state. ugh too many fucking dumb people on these boards giving shit information about computers. Zoso: if EVERYTHING is shutting off but the fans, that has nothing to do with being in standby/sleep mode. See above.

Duly noted, good sir. I'll confess my Vista experience is very limited, and my handy O'Reilly book on Vista is at home today.

hey gehz, go suck a big one plz.

kthxbai

You have probably the power connectors hooked wrong. Check the wireing and double check with the manual. Then check it again.

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Originally posted by Cloudburst You have probably the power connectors hooked wrong. Check the wireing and double check with the manual. Then check it again.

Yea. I'm thinking when you plugged the power switch from the case into the mobo pin you did it wrong.

Reseat them connections sir!

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Are you fucking stupid? Hibernate turns everything off, but saves the contents of memory to the hd for resume at a later date or time. No matter which option you choose, it shuts everything off except in standby/sleep mode memory still has power as this is needed to keep the memory state. ugh too many fucking dumb people on these boards giving shit information about computers. Zoso: if EVERYTHING is shutting off but the fans, that has nothing to do with being in standby/sleep mode. See above.

Chill out man.

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Originally posted by r5a Chill out man.

I am just tired of people giving stupid bullshit advice like that. Especially with computers. His type of advice is the primary reason we have so many fuck all problems with "pcs" and shit not working with the advice given. I hate the perpetual spread of misinformation about electronics in general and more specifically computers. It leads to shitty "support" from others that think they know what they are doing. This in turn creates a disdain for the industry. Geek Squad is a fucking great example of this problem. Clueless fucks "working" on computers and "fixing" them for a fee. Shit people doing something they know shit about.

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Originally posted by Zoso Duly noted, good sir. I'll confess my Vista experience is very limited, and my handy O'Reilly book on Vista is at home today.

Also I didn't mean to come off that you were stupid, as your suggestion was merely something you found online and thought it might help. And tbh it is a good one, as that annoyed the shit out of me when I had vista as beta. I just was too fucking lazy to find a fix. Was easier just to hit the arrow. lol

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Originally posted by Cloudburst You have probably the power connectors hooked wrong. Check the wireing and double check with the manual. Then check it again.

i will definitely double check when i get home, but would that still cause problems even if it's Vista shutting down the computer? (not me manually pushing the button to turn it off)

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Originally posted by JD8180 i will definitely double check when i get home, but would that still cause problems even if it's Vista shutting down the computer? (not me manually pushing the button to turn it off)

The symptoms you described, the computer is already off, but for some reason the fans aren't turning off either due to a faulty mobo, or improperly seated fan connectors.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel The symptoms you described, the computer is already off, but for some reason the fans aren't turning off either due to a faulty mobo, or improperly seated fan connectors.

You're such a c u n t and I wish you'd die.

I fucking hate you.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister You're such a c u n t and I wish you'd die.

lol I am glad. Now run along son. I am sure winnie the pooh has some honey for you too.

alright everyone, so I ended up returning the mobo in hopes that it was a defect with that. I tried nearly everything possible:

-ran the mobo outside of the case to see if it was a grounding issue
-put in a new power supply to see if it was a defect with that
-checked every single bios setting/jumper settings
-reseated all the power cords and double checked the power button (on the case) connectors

and god knows what else...

my next question, which should be fairly easy: when i removed everything to send out the motherboard, i obviously had to remove the CPU. the CPU has all the thermal paste that came with it from the heatsink/fan. would it be okay when i get the new mobo to just install the CPU using the same thermal paste? or would i have to buy the cleaning solution and new paste to apply it as i am reinstalling it?

COR version: returned mobo. removed CPU which still has thermal paste. do i need to apply new thermal paste or can i just reuse what's already on it?

No, you should really clean the paste off and reapply it. You don't need anything special..just rubbing alcohol. And you can buy a tube of arctic silver 5 for $5.99 here. Remember to use a PAPER THIN layer (I use a razorblade to spread it). Anything more defeats the purpose and can make your CPU run hotter.

http://www.svc.com/as5-3g.html

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Originally posted by Capitalizt No, you should really clean the paste off and reapply it. You don't need anything special..just rubbing alcohol.

and what do i use to clean it with? a cotton swab? or a rag or what?

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Are you fucking stupid? Hibernate turns everything off, but saves the contents of memory to the hd for resume at a later date or time. No matter which option you choose, it shuts everything off except in standby/sleep mode memory still has power as this is needed to keep the memory state. ugh too many fucking dumb people on these boards giving shit information about computers. Zoso: if EVERYTHING is shutting off but the fans, that has nothing to do with being in standby/sleep mode. See above.

Lol, bro u have some issues. Your ego clouds your brain and blocks u from logical thinking, judging from the majority of your posts. Relax and quit jumping into every thread spouting off shit u really are clueless about. Improperly seated fan connectors, lol. Yea mate that would still indicate that there is power at the connection point which has nothing to with the connector.

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Originally posted by JD8180 and what do i use to clean it with? a cotton swab? or a rag or what?

I use cotton-buds personally.

If you can, try and find some Arctic Cooling MX-2 instead of the Arctic Silver 5.

I've used AS (3 and 5) for years, but MX-2 gives me slightly better results, is MUCH easier to apply, and is non-conductive, so won't fry anything should it get smeared places where it shouldn't

this solution is easy once we all know how many terra flops your computer has.

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ this solution is easy once we all know how many terra flops your computer has.

oyea??/ My computer has pentaflopz

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Lol, bro u have some issues. Your ego clouds your brain and blocks u from logical thinking, judging from the majority of your posts. Relax and quit jumping into every thread spouting off shit u really are clueless about. Improperly seated fan connectors, lol. Yea mate that would still indicate that there is power at the connection point which has nothing to with the connector.

Nah I don't. You just don't understand how fucking stupid you are when you say things that are patently false. People spread so much misinformation with computers that it is perpetually a fucked up scene. People like some of the ones that were in this thread saying "do this, do that, this could be it, that could be it" are the reason we have so many computers fucked up. Don't get all butt hurt just because I called someone stupid for perpetually using bad information.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Nah I don't. You just don't understand how fucking stupid you are when you say things that are patently false. People spread so much misinformation with computers that it is perpetually a fucked up scene. People like some of the ones that were in this thread saying "do this, do that, this could be it, that could be it" are the reason we have so many computers fucked up. Don't get all butt hurt just because I called someone stupid for perpetually using bad information.

fucked up scene? who cares it's the internetz! lololol

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