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What is Paul Oakenfold's exact role in the music...

Hi, I don't know much about the producing/recording process and what goes on within that...I've heard paul oakenfold is almost exclusively a 'remixer'. If this is true or not explain for me if you can. Like, what do remixers do exactly, and does he write original songs too? Thanks...
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1. He could have a good claim to be the founder of house music.
2. He DJ'd for many years
3. He then became a producer of all sorts of music, mainly house & electronic
4. He opened his own reocord label "perfecto" with steve osbourne (sp)
5. He does remix tunes also.

in other words he does everything. a label owner that dj's remixes and producers. hes one of the biggest infulences of the trance/house industry what ever way you look at it.

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Originally posted by DJ NEILSON 1. He could have a good claim to be the founder of house music.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! what???

he has NO claim whatsoever to this. none, zip, zero!
house music first appeared in Chicago (at the Ware*house* club), then picked up in New York. It was produced by the likes of Franky Knuckles, Robert Owens, and Adonis.

shit, he doesn't even have the slimmest case for being this so-called "founder" of trance!

i just hate it when people pull such statements out of their ass when they have *no* idea what the hell they're talking about!!!

Whoops...

Egad I didn't mean to get people mad at each other, I was meaning a technical question, like literally, what does he do? What does being a remixer consist of? How much do you change the original songs/how? Do you write your own ever...stuff like that...I guess I was misleading before...
cheers

Re: Whoops...

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Originally posted by Kirby Egad I didn't mean to get people mad at each other, I was meaning a technical question, like literally, what does he do? What does being a remixer consist of? How much do you change the original songs/how? Do you write your own ever...stuff like that...I guess I was misleading before... cheers

A remixer hopefully takes a track and tries to rework it, putting his own twist on it. Some remixers like Timo Maas will make the track pretty much unrecognizable (check his remix of Moby's "We're All Made Of Stars"). Tiesto is good because he has enough of the original track, while changing it enough on his ouwn to make it stand out. Oakenfold usually doesn't do anything too drastic to the original. Like his "Perfecto Edit" of PPK's "Ressurection" does some very subtle changed compared to the original..
Yeah, you have to write your own stuff to do the remix, you can't really just take the original and rearrange parts without changing/adding elements.

Oakenfold produces his own songs, DJ's, and owns his own record company. I dont think he remixes however. But if he did, then that would mean he would try to remake "his own version" of the song with his own instruments, while keeping the same "melody" of the original track.

heres a list of oakey's production, remixes, albums,

http://www.members.shaw.ca/urbantrain/oakeydisco.html

Hmm.. that list looks incomplete.. I mean, there is supposed to be at least The Space Brothers - Shine (the album, not the single) remix disk...

But anyway.. personally I used to adore Oakey.. I still respect him.. He makes / spins great music..

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Originally posted by Maxim303 HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! what??? he has NO claim whatsoever to this. none, zip, zero! house music first appeared in Chicago (at the Ware*house* club), then picked up in New York. It was produced by the likes of Franky Knuckles, Robert Owens, and Adonis. shit, he doesn't even have the slimmest case for being this so-called "founder" of trance! i just hate it when people pull such statements out of their ass when they have *no* idea what the hell they're talking about!!!

that's what I was thinking. I like to do some research into styles of music before spewing nonsense.

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Originally posted by k.k.d. Hmm.. that list looks incomplete.. I mean, there is supposed to be at least The Space Brothers - Shine (the album, not the single) remix disk...

To the best of my knowledge, Oakey merely *mixes* the different remixes of tracks from shine together, I don't think they're actually his remixes though...

Self appointed God!!!!
Thinking he can charge $50 for a one hour set... bah... I say... bah!!!

What hasn't he done.

Oakey wasnt one of the founders of House but he was one of the founders of Acid Hous when he started the first Acid House nights in the UK at Heaven.
He then moved on to explore the Goa sound from India then mixed argualbly the best Essential Mix of all time, The Goa Mix, in 1994. Since then he set up Perfecto Records and basically brought Cream into the spotlight with his 2 year Residency in 1997 and 1998.
In 1999 he was one of the major reasons for the Trance Explosion that we all love. He did a World Tour with the Essential Mix and travelled to all corners of the globe spreading the Trance sound throuhgout the world while still setting places like Gatecrasher on fire with awsome live mixes. God I miss this era!
He then moved on and as Trance became more popular he started moving away from it and is once again trying new things.
Today he plays alot of Breaks and new style music. While still retaining Trance as his major sound.
If things go as before Oakey will make breaks and new styles extremely popular. But he always changes to explore new sounds and new ideas.
Right now he is currerntly touring the US alot to try and educate many of them. He's probably succeeding more than anyother DJ in breaking into America. I wish he would leave America and remember other poorer less fortunate countries like Australia that want him back!!
But thats basically what he has done for the music.
Quite alot ey!

Hear,hear!!

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What hasn't he done. Oakey wasnt one of the founders of House but he was one of the founders of Acid Hous when he started the first Acid House nights in the UK at Heaven. He then moved on to explore the Goa sound from India then mixed argualbly the best Essential Mix of all time, The Goa Mix, in 1994. Since then he set up Perfecto Records and basically brought Cream into the spotlight with his 2 year Residency in 1997 and 1998. In 1999 he was one of the major reasons for the Trance Explosion that we all love. He did a World Tour with the Essential Mix and travelled to all corners of the globe spreading the Trance sound throuhgout the world while still setting places like Gatecrasher on fire with awsome live mixes. God I miss this era! He then moved on and as Trance became more popular he started moving away from it and is once again trying new things. Today he plays alot of Breaks and new style music. While still retaining Trance as his major sound. If things go as before Oakey will make breaks and new styles extremely popular. But he always changes to explore new sounds and new ideas. Right now he is currerntly touring the US alot to try and educate many of them. He's probably succeeding more than anyother DJ in breaking into America. I wish he would leave America and remember other poorer less fortunate countries like Australia that want him back!! But thats basically what he has done for the music.

Word,Trancey Ash.That's a very good summary of Oakey's career so far.I couldn't have said it better myself.

mmm house

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Originally posted by Maxim303 HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! what??? he has NO claim whatsoever to this. none, zip, zero! house music first appeared in Chicago (at the Ware*house* club), then picked up in New York. It was produced by the likes of Franky Knuckles, Robert Owens, and Adonis. shit, he doesn't even have the slimmest case for being this so-called "founder" of trance! i just hate it when people pull such statements out of their ass when they have *no* idea what the hell they're talking about!!!

yeah, that nearly threw me off my chair!....franky knuckles is a legend...even though i dig oakenfold, he's not God, and I wish people would stop thinking so...

thank god you didn't say he was the founder of techno too because i might have beat some ass jk

Oakie is the Godfather of all modern clubmusic

I was under the impression that he was a pioneer of the UK club scene

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Originally posted by Special_K I was under the impression that he was a pioneer of the UK club scene

He basically was one of them. He was definately not the only one! It's not like Paul Oakenfold came along and invented Clubbing. There were many others also just that he contributed a hell of alot to the club scene.

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Originally posted by DJ NEILSON 1. He could have a good claim to be the founder of house music.

you mean like im the founder of trance

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Originally posted by Beamish Oakie is the Godfather of all modern clubmusic

WHAT??!!
Are you fucking crazy? Get a life, dude!...

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Originally posted by Eugene WHAT??!! Are you fucking crazy? Get a life, dude!...

hehe my words exactly


a lot of oakey fans think hes the be all and end all of trance/dance music and its quite annoying, not its not, its VERY annoying!!!

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Originally posted by Beamish Oakie is the Godfather of all modern clubmusic

The ignorance and stupidity of this post is beyond belief. But, the reason I'm replying to it, is because unfortunately a lot of people think this way and elevate Oakenfold beyond any reasonable limits.

I repeat that Dance, Trance, and Club music would have been just fine, and equally popular and alive, without your "god" Oakenfold. Trance and Euro-NRG have always been popular in continental Europe, especially Germany. If you think that the world ends with Great Britain and the British DJ's, think again. Your world view is obviously very limited.

By the way, do you mean to tell me that what Oakenfold spins now is "Club music"? Hahaha! Try playing his CD at any normal club. Nobody will dance. Why? Because people want club music, with a sufficiently fast beat they can dance to, not broken grooves and acapellas and opera theatrics.

And one more thing: In the other thread about Oakenfold, somebody started flaming me for saying that he's "arrogant." Well, only an arrogant DJ could add voiceovers to his album ("Another World") saying "Are you going to see Oakenfold? Oakenfold is the best DJ. We are going out tonight to see Oakenfold. The music builds and builds. The world's best DJ, Paul Oakenfold." Imagine all the people who wasted their money on this album and can't even listen to it because of these pathetic voiceovers. I rest my case.

Whatever he is or what role he plays, i wil always look up to him and have respect for him.

Its true he did some mediocore stuff in 20001 but Oakie is back in 2002, and better than ever!

My fav DJ of the year so far

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And one more thing: In the other thread about Oakenfold, somebody started flaming me for saying that he's "arrogant." Well, only an arrogant DJ could add voiceovers to his album ("Another World") saying "Are you going to see Oakenfold? Oakenfold is the best DJ. We are going out tonight to see Oakenfold. The music builds and builds. The world's best DJ, Paul Oakenfold." Imagine all the people who wasted their money on this album and can't even listen to it because of these pathetic voiceovers. I rest my case.

Bleh, where do you get that from? I've listened to Another World and Travelling over hundreds of times and the only things that you put above that were right that is the voice over from the album was "Are you going to see Oakenfold? The music gradually builds and builds." It sais nothing on neither of the 4 cd's about "The world's best DJ, Paul Oakenfold" so I dont know where you get that from. The reason from the voiceovers was because he said "I took people from all over the world to create voiceovers to create a club enviroment." Correct me with a sample from the cd if you feel that I am wrong. I'm not trying to flame if you feel that I am, just spreading knowledge.

JaY

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Originally posted by JayD "Are you going to see Oakenfold? The music gradually builds and builds."

Well, even if these are the only voiceovers, it's still pretty arrogant to do this pathetic self-promotion. Why do they repeat his name? Because he's so great, rich, and famous?


Fucking "club atmosphere" my ass, it's not a club atmosphere at all. Like I said previously, his music is only good for listening in your headphones and "spacing out"... NOT dancing.

Ah Oakie bashing ... everyone's favourite pastime on here

I won't pretend that the guy is my musical cup of tea any more, he's long ago moved on from spinning trance, for whatever reason. But for fucks sake give the man some RESPECT. Anyone heard of a club called Spectrum in London, where back in 1988 Oakie spun a few records that him and Danny Rampling had just bought on their holiday at some unheard of island called Ibiza? Bear in mind that this was the '80s! - before Manchester, before Ministry of Sound and I'll bet before half of you guys on this board were out of nappies

He spun that fuckin amazing Goa trance EM as far back as '94 ... and his GC and Ibiza sets in '99 to my mind are still the finest uplifting trance sets in history, the dude has more of a claim to be considered one of the founders of modern trance than anyone else I can think of right now. Not 'house', and certainly not 'club music' in general, but trance yes!

Everyone who's busy slamming on the guy, why don't you tell us who YOU respect as the founders of trance? (And don't anybody say 'DJ Tiesto' or I'll crawl into my PC and strangle you myself )

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