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Can you do without a sub monitor?

I have a pair of m-audio bx5a monitors at the moment and was thinking of buying the bx10s sub woofer to go with them. but what i want to know is is it really necessary to have one or can just as good work be done without it?

i just made myself a sub and i have no idea how i could do without, things are suddenly fun again

ahhh cool, think ill invest in one then, the bx10s also comes with pedal which when pressed cuts the sub so u can hear what it sounds like without it, which must be a handy thing

seems like a solid sub

also where do u have your sub? is it on the floor or level with ur monitors ?

I've got a friend with the BX5a's and he has the sub. It sounds pretty good, IMO. I've got the Yamaha HS80Ms and I've been considering picking up the matching sub because I have a tendency to overemphasize the low frequencies in my mixes, which indicates that I'm not hearing them correctly, so I'm starting to think that having a sub may help me de-emphasize those frequencies.

A sub never hurts, but IMO in regular trance its not really THAT essential, from my experience the main bassline frequencies in Trance are above sub range, that is with a standard saw bassline, more sophisticated basslines almost always require attention on the subs, and if youre planning on producing other genres like DnB a sub becomes more than essential.

my plan is a stereo pair of 18" bass reflex cabinets. with processing from an xta box ill get a nice flat resp down to 25hz. and this is at outputs of 120db @ 1m. i think if a sub is a good one it will help you a great deal. be aware that simply adding a sub wont definately add any more working frequency response, but will improve bass levels in spaces that need an increase. ideally i would look into a loudspeaker management system like a dbx driverack or similar. it will allow you to eq your sub and monitors as well as add delay so the system is correctly timed for your seating position. though i have not utilised this approach in a studio environment yet, its something i have used extensively in the live sound game.

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are you serious.... unless your doing jungle or drum n bass your wasting your money... producers ge so wrapped up in what they think they need....they dont write music...

I much prefer using a sub

i've been doing without one from day one. i've now been producing in headphones and i like it

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Originally posted by maximlee are you serious.... unless your doing jungle or drum n bass your wasting your money... producers ge so wrapped up in what they think they need....they dont write music...

Are YOU serious? Do you really not understand that having a proper mixing environment and system with good accuracy in ALL audible frequency ranges is NOT specific to one or two genres? You don't buy a subwoofer for a studio monitoring system so you can dance to it; you buy one if that's what you need to get better and more transferable mixes, whether it's for trance, DnB, RnB, rock, pop, country, classical, or any other genre.

And, as far as I can tell, most folks around here are producing music and not just sitting around pondering their equipment needs.

I have been in many recording studios and sat in on commercial mixing sessions and have never seen an engineer reach for the sub. Some studios have them but i have never had the need to use one. They are often more hassle than good unless you have a VERY well treated room.

Dannib of course you need a sub to mix down dance music. What are you talking about?. You cant work with sumthing you cant hear. Every serious dance music producer i know has sub on thier setup.

PA speakers is more right realy as dance is meant for clubs. 2*15"+HORNS

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Dannib of course you need a sub to mix down dance music

lol. Of course you dont NEED a sub. I have never heard of anybody NEEDING a sub to mix music. The only thing a sub is any use for is for CHECKING the low end frequencies, not mixing. As stated, a sub in a room which is not very well treated will do a lot more harm than good.

Well arnt we all dumbasses splashing out on one then. Dunno why they bother makin them ...

the most important thing of producing is to have fun, and i sure as hell have alot more fun now that i got a sub. bass is just i dont know. whats all about

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Originally posted by palm i just made myself a sub and i have no idea how i could do without, things are suddenly fun again

I 2nd this. I recently added a sub to my setup and now I don't why in the hell I waited this long. I will never go back. After adding the sub I had several breakthroughs with lower frequency sounds that I previously could never figure out. That may sound totally obvious, but I just never thought I really needed one.

and the fun in listening to Slam - Step Back is now undescribable

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