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Posted by Domesticated on Jul-15-2008 22:37:

(Your) Children and passing on music tastes

If you have children in the future, do you see yourself attempting to conciously influence their taste in music?

For example, psy-trance act Eskimo, son of John Ford, released his first album aged 17 on his Dad's label Phantasm. He was probably listening to psy at a very early age.

Also, a guy I know is Raja Ram's nephew, and has spoken about Raja trying to introduce him to all kinds of music at a young age.

Personally, my parents didn't ever say "listen to this", but I was exposed to all their music on the radio and in the car anyway, though I don't think it's influenced me much because my parents were only ever into rock music and I'm mainly into electronic.

I can certainly envisage myself playing all kinds of sophisticated EDM to my kid at age 10 and getting angry should they not appreciate it.

I'd love to pass on the classics to the next generation.


Posted by Kinezi on Jul-15-2008 22:43:

My parents seldom listen to music.. like have that free time and just listen to music.. but whenever they do.. they are still hungup on the oldies which were popular when 'they' were young..

So I guess when I have kids I would still be listening to old trance sets and bitch why its not like that anymore.. and force my kids to listen to old Oakie sets..

Like you said:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog

I'd love to pass on the classics to the next generation.


Posted by Project-K on Jul-15-2008 22:48:

Re: (Your) Children and passing on music tastes

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
If you have children in the future, do you see yourself attempting to conciously influence their taste in music?


I wouldn't say influence, I would say stimulate. I grew up on prog rock, but my mom only ever listened to ELP and King Crimson - can't ever remember her listening to anything else. So there wasn't all that much room for my tastes to devellop. It wasn't really a very musical environment.

If I ever have kids, I'm going to make sure I have a huge album collection they can browse through, and I definately want to encourage them to play music.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-15-2008 22:53:

my kids are (if boys) gonna play fotball and live of that or (if girls) be a tv-face/news-reader whatever just its in the media. their not getting education thats for sure, their gonna have everything in life i didnt and school was not one of them. what a waste of time.
they will get my old stereo so they will definititly be into music also.


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-15-2008 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
my kids are (if boys) gonna play fotball and live of that or (if girls) be a tv-face/news-reader whatever just its in the media. their not getting education thats for sure, their gonna have everything in life i didnt and school was not one of them. what a waste of time


...right.


Posted by bamski on Jul-15-2008 22:55:

All i ever got from my parents was Queen - Greatest Hits Vol.1 and 2.

Worked out just fine, imo


Posted by Kinezi on Jul-15-2008 22:58:

I think musical tastes evolve with age.. what you think? You are bound to like pop with bang bang bang when you are 16.. and ambient comes much later on in life.. you cant make 15 year old appreciate/or love ambients.. its too slow, quite and boring for them.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-15-2008 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
you cant make 15 year old appreciate/or love ambients.. its too slow, quite and boring for them.

i liked ambient as 15, but yes i found it myself and no one tryed to push it on me. my dad bought me my first psy-CD tho by Man WIth no Name. I was shocked tho it figured, he was in a crazy CD shop looking for something like Prodigy as I said wanted that.


Posted by Kinezi on Jul-15-2008 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
i liked ambient as 15, but yes i found it myself and no one tryed to push it on me. my dad bought me my first psy-CD tho by Man WIth no Name. I was shocked tho it figured, he was in a crazy CD shop looking for something like Prodigy as I said wanted that.


Did you pursue more tracks like that? Or did you just said.. oh yeah that was a nice track... now lets play some Ace of Base/Madona/Ricky Martin/Enrique..


Posted by bamski on Jul-15-2008 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
Man With no Name. I was shocked tho it figured, he was in a crazy CD shop looking for something like Prodigy as I said wanted that.


If my old man would have bought me Earth Moving The Sun ten years ago, I'd call him right now and tell him just how much I love him.


Posted by nefardec on Jul-15-2008 23:40:

im gonna dj my kids birthday parties


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-15-2008 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
im gonna dj my kids birthday parties




A couple I'm friends with claims they are going to buy their kids decks at age 10 so that by 18 they can be ready to rock the shit out of clubs.


Posted by lacksesepsotygh on Jul-16-2008 00:12:

i'd have three kids, and they would later on be called the stockholm three. they'd invent a new genre. one of them would be called elevator, another one innovator, and the third would be named godfather of said genre.

my dad influenced me a little bit, seeing as he'd dj:ed for 20 years or so. his record collection has a fair bit of old classic chicago and acid wax, although it's mostly top 40. too bad.


Posted by DiegoParra32 on Jul-16-2008 02:50:

I listen to edm around my daughter all the time in the car and at home so I wouldn't be surprised if when she grows up she is a hardcore howells or burridge fan lol


Posted by PETRAN on Jul-16-2008 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
I think musical tastes evolve with age.. what you think? You are bound to like pop with bang bang bang when you are 16.. and ambient comes much later on in life.. you cant make 15 year old appreciate/or love ambients.. its too slow, quite and boring for them.



Only gayish teenagers (for boys) listen to Madonna and Ace of Base when they are 15-16, i remember listening to black and doom/death-metal (alongside some electronic music such as Orbital lol)back in 1996 when i was 15...but maybe its just Europe (or Europe in the 90s)...




To the thread-question now, i don't think that you can actively influence your kids to like a specific type of music. In a matter of fact, you can't influence your kids at anything, because, mental development is quite of a chaotic process. It is true though that when organisms (e.g. monkeys!) are exposed to a certain soundscape when they are young, they would tend to seek similar/idential soundscapes when they are older. Looking within their brains also reveals that certain neuronal areas which are functionally specialised to respond to certain sound frequencies, are "expanded" when those frequencies correspond to that early soundscape (that is, the areas which are functionally specialised to respond to those specific early frequencies become larger and more complex).

So it is true that the early musical environment influences preferences up to a certain point. It is also true though that humans are dynamic entities, so when it comes to the development of cognitions and behaviour, nothing is linear or clear-cut . So, yes, there is always the possibility that your kid will end-up liking something very different in comparison to your tastes.


I would personally never influence my children's musical taste. In a matter of fact, i'm not sure what kind of music i'll be prefering myself. My musical taste is currently quite different from what it was a few years ago (and so on, although i always liked some specific "patterns" regardless of the genre), so no one can ever be be sure.


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-16-2008 04:56:



Way to get scientific over a simple question Petran.

I may as well mention the generation gap: whatever you want your kids to like, they will like the exact opposite out of spite.


Posted by skip on Jul-16-2008 06:07:

i wouldn't try to force my own musical tastes on my kids.

i'd like them to like good music though, not some smurf bullshit. so as long as they listen to music that is good, i will have no problems. but if they listen to bullshit crap, daddy's gonna get mad!


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Jul-16-2008 06:39:

My dad had the best influence on me music wise and I hope to do the same for my kids (someday).

I just def want to try and steer them away from all things ghetto-ish.


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-16-2008 06:45:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Only gayish teenagers (for boys) listen to Madonna and Ace of Base when they are 15-16, i remember listening to black and doom/death-metal (alongside some electronic music such as Orbital lol)back in 1996 when i was 15...but maybe its just Europe (or Europe in the 90s)...


Oh yeah, and big +1 on this!

When I was 15-16 we spent our whole time listening to punk and metal.

Groups like Pennywise, Millencolin, Fear Factory, Opeth and Korn.


Posted by Redd on Jul-16-2008 07:31:

I guess I was gayish (?) at like 11-12. I listened to Ace of Base


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-16-2008 07:42:

We had music playing at our home all the time and it most definitely affected my musical tastes. I inherited the love for classic rock from my dad and he even introduced me to EDM via Kraftwerk, Art Of Noise, Yello and others like that. It worked the other way too - he sometimes borrowed my Prodigy albums etc.

Still, I listen to a lot of stuff my parents would never ever listen to so I don't think you can completely influence your kid's tastes...


Posted by Kinezi on Jul-16-2008 08:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
I guess I was gayish (?) at like 11-12. I listened to Ace of Base


I was 15-16ish when they released their 'flowers' album.. thats the only one i bought of them.. and madona was 'ray of light'.. ricky martin one was one just before world cup - 'liva la licoda' or somthing like that.. and enrique one was 'hero' and one album of his i think before that too i dont remember name of that one..

And threadstarter your question is way more sensitive and sophisticated than just another simple question as you might like it to think. Un-intentional influence is another thing, but you said you wanna 'conciously influence' their music taste.. so...


Posted by Redd on Jul-16-2008 08:27:

Um yeah, it was the Happy Nation album (their first) I listened to. I also got Ray of Light but that was when I was 18-19. Ricky Martin and Enrique, no way (you're a girl right?)

I'll make sure my kids gets to hear more than just the top40 etc. And sure I'll play them what I like and have enjoyed the last 15 years.


Posted by Kinezi on Jul-16-2008 08:48:

No, I am a boy!


Posted by wick on Jul-16-2008 10:05:

Well when I was young, all my Dad listened to was The Beatles and some golden oldie radio station. So I was exposed to all different sorts of classic rock stuff. I do remember hating every minute though. I can however appreciate some Beatles music now!

My Mum loves Celine Dion and all those ladies with real loud voices lol.

Will I make my children listen to EDM? Chances are, yes. I pretty much only like EDM and not much else. I can't see that changing for a lonnnnng time too - I love the shit :P I won't care if they don't listen to it, just as long as they listen to quality in whatever genre they like. I won't stand for cheesy music tastes!


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