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Miami music scene
When I came to Miami I expected a great electronic music scene, but in reality it's quite awful. In a nutshell, a vast majority of the club-goers are idiots, the clubs are insanely expensive and there are often weeks in between good parties. For example, check out the lineup for Liquifed Atlanta. Dave Dresden on July 18th and Christopher Lawrence on July 25th. Ticket prices are $15 and $12. Trance might not be your thing, but at least they have rotation. Tiesto, Steve Lawler, AVB, Acosta, Digweed and Mark Farina have all been there in the past couple months. The SF Bay area and LA are head and shoulders above Miami in diversity, style and class. Even Las Vegas is better than this.
What's going on Miami over the course of the next several weeks? Absolutely nothing. An idiotic "Columbian" party this weekend at Space. The music will suck and the crowd will be littered with the likes of Juan Pablo Montoya .. no thank you. How about after that? Absolutely nothing at Cameo or Mansion. Oscar G and Patrick M are okay, but I thought this was "Miami"? If this were truly a great music scene, we'd have a heavy rotation of world class DJ's.
And don't bring up WMC; that's just once a year. I'd gladly surrender one amazing party week a year for 35 or 40 really good parties.
Another point I would like to make is there are so many idiots at the clubs in Miami. I've been clubbing a long time and have never experienced the rudeness/immaturity as at the clubs as Miami. I go out to hear great music, dance and have a nice time. Sure it's nice to see pretty women, but that's not the focus. I rarely see people dancing and totally absorbed in the music. 95% of the time people are running around pushing or chasing someone else. If they are dancing, they are trying to get attention from someone else.
For posers I suppose the Miami club scene is good. For electronic music lovers it's not.
Two other points ...
Sander Kleinenberg is kicking off his Avalon residency this weekend and advanced tickets are $20. Can you imagine having Kleinenberg as a resident? Can you imagine seeing that caliber DJ for $20?
Obviously all the people at space are not idiots; just a large number of them. My gf and I met a really cool girl on the terrace at PVD.
couldnt agree more.
Basically on point analysis
Yet I am sure someone will eventually come out of the woodwork and post some crap on here about how Space is the greatest club in the world, how lucky we are, .... blah, blah blah 
It is pretty sad
, I look at the EDM scene every where else and it so much better than Miami....I've been going to Trance Energy for the past couple years and Miami is soooooooo behind, but at the same time you can't really compare the two
You're preaching to the wrong crowd here. Most people that spend time on EDM message boards aren't the type of ppl that fuck up edm events (excluding some fltas lol). So chances are, everyone on here will agree with you and nothing will come out of this thread. So, go punch people wearing aviators inside in the face. And when the bartender tells you its $14 for your rum and coke, tell her to go fuck herself. ("you're a fucking ugly bitch. I want to stab you to death, and then play around with your blood"). Or just move.
sman1005, where did you move from?
All I can say is I hope things get better for our scene 
Liquified Atlanta also brings in Dj's on a wednesday night for cheaper prices. Ticket prices for American dj's, like you mentioned, should not be worth more than 15 bucks. (dave dresden & christopher "the cheater" lawrence )
Anyways, what you say is true. I'm tired of Miami bringing in the same top dj's.
Just a heads up though. Sander K had a residency at Space during his prime years. Everything was much better when I was underage [props to Renzo and the guy from Cool Junkie that I ran into @ DEMF and some other friends for getting me in those times] haha.
One thing I def have to disagree with u is your sense of the crowd. I will glady take the "miami crowd" and swap them for any other party scene in the U.S.
I have partied in New York, Dallas and San Fran twice.. It's quite fuking scary. Miami's got class and rules and I appreciate them when I party in shit holes where ppl are busy starring at a Male turned female dancer in SF rather than paying attn to the dj/music. How many cuddle puddles did I have to walk through in the Civic Center in SF - The world may never know. The asians doing the washing machine. It's not a pretty site. Don't even get me started on New York. For jeebus sake. It's horrid out here. Very few clubs I can actually stand to go to where I absolutely love the vibe and/or ppl. (Cielo and Love)
Clubs in all the cities have built up a fan base on these "certain nights" and that is why these clubs can bring in the talent. Miami can't.
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| Originally posted by charon So, go punch people wearing aviators inside in the face. |
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| Originally posted by charon Or just move. |
i wouldn't move for a fuking party scene.
Do what I do. Sign up for emails from a shit ton of airlines. When they have a special check out the party events in the area and come on down.. or up.. whatever!
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| Originally posted by MeLLyMeL i wouldn't move for a fuking party scene. Do what I do. Sign up for emails from a shit ton of airlines. When they have a special check out the party events in the area and come on down.. or up.. whatever! |
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| Originally posted by infinitetrance I *heart* aviators.. |
jacksonville was hot fire at one time too. When I was 19.
I rememeber driving up there to see Zabiela and first time meeting a bunch of TA's. Back then they had Satoshi Tomie.. and weekly big dj's. Forgot who else.
The whole moving thing for me was being able to go from one big city to another big city. No way can I do something smaller. It was a good thing that I happened to move to a city with a scene but it defeats the purpose of why I kinda wanted to get out of Miami. I partied too freaking much!
Fail.
I get the poser argument, and the lack of diversity, no doubt. But give credit where credit is due... 5am close/24 hour downtown, more clubs on south beach per capita than anywhere else in the US, the beautiful people, day parties, etc.
I keep hearing about the "glory days" of the scene in Miami, but for me, it's now. Every time I visit the city I manage to party hard for the duration of my trip, and I leave saying "if I lived here, I'd be in jail by now." If that's not a good enough town to party in, you guys aren't trying hard enough.
And seriously, if you love electronic music enough, migrate to Chicago or NYC and be done with it.
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| Originally posted by epdarks if you love electronic music enough, migrate to Chicago or NYC and be done with it. |
can't agree with you more..Im a bit older now and remember wicked crazy EDM parties like CandyLand, WonderLand....and my 1st UMF @ Miami Beach. this was back when I was a BBoy, I got nothing but love from the crowd...That was then, and the present is just a story of the past...there is alotta Reaggeton LOL
what's the solution?
I guess just hope for the better
Miami does have it's moments, it might not be continuous but like epdarks said you can party 24/7 in miami
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| Originally posted by epdarks And seriously, if you love electronic music enough, migrate to Chicago or NYC and be done with it. |
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| Originally posted by miamitrance what's the solution? |
I honestly don't know.
Space doesn't have someone like... Ardamis?? Am I correct? I know renzo knew her.
Well way back then she was the one making all the bookings and that's when Space was bringing in talent like Ferry, Tiesto iirc. Not 100% sure on that. Either way they don't have a good events promoter
Also, Lack of support. I have seen shit loads of even TA's who barely support the scene. Kinda weak. I've seen tons of parties being posted and when I come to check out the FL section I see ZERO reviews.
Lots of travelling TA's don't travel anymore. I'm talking about mostly the older crew.
The ones I see hyping the music scene up are central/north fl TA's. Miami is a bit lame. If I go.. which I do go home alot.. I still party my ass off but not many omfg moments.
Space's line up never changes. They haven't brought someone from out of the blue in how long? You can expect PvD the same months.. ALWAYS.. Since I was 18/19 November & June/July.. Morillo is always around my bday weekend and before him it was Sander K.
Forget about Space, they have no interest in furthering the EDM scene in Miami. They will continue with the same 'tired worn out useless' formula until the 2000 or so rafters, prostitutes, cokeheads, meth-heads and vampires that still show up there weekly get deported, overdose, get a wooden stake driven thru their hearts or otherwise stop showing up.
With minimal at its peak, and people saying how great tech house, tech trance and minimal are, where are the Space bookings of talent like Marco Carola, Carl Cox, Ritchie Hawtin, Lee Burridge, Mauro Picotto, Chris Liebing, Marco V, SVD, Zabiela, etc, etc??? No where to be found. And their house bookings are crap to say the least. Trance bookings are PVD, and that's all folks. Mansion brings better DJs than Space, and that is embarassing to say the least.
Having that great club there and not booking anyone is the equivalent of having a Ferrari in your driveway and taking the bus, or having Jessica Alba naked in your bed and jerking off instead of bangin her. Anyone who applauds or defends Space's mediocrity is full of shit.
lol @ rafters...in the end, everyone ends up at Space
love it or hate it
Wow, I stop in to see what the buzz is these days with the kids and I see borderline racism. Isn't dance (I refuse to call it EDM, I'm crusty and old) music about being open and accepting? Then I see people classifying the crowd at space as "rafters" and "juan pablo montoya".
OK, back to my own award-winning forum.
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