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I think Barack Obama's road to White House is all but decided. There is nothing that will stand in his way. The world, from Asia, to Africa, to Europe loves Obama, hates Bush, and cares very little for McCain. Has anything like this ever happened before? I'm even hearing a few fundamentalist Christians call him the Anti-Christ. The Republican Party has truly shot itself in the foot, if not the right in the head. To let neoconservatives take over the Party, just disgusting. They will certainly pay with losing their power. Anyways, from Der Spiegel...

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President of the World But at least he is coming. He will be in Berlin this Thursday, when Germans will hail him as a magician with the ability to transform a gloomy world into a brighter place. Never before has there been so much excitement in Germany over the visit of a presumed US presidential candidate. Obama may be running for the White House, but judging by the commotion, one would think that he had already advanced two steps further and were the president of the world. Which is precisely the issue. Obama raises hopes that he will not just change America, but politics as a whole. Obama is the hope of a Western world filled with concerns. A recession looms as does high inflation sparked by exploding demand for commodities and natural resources. Furthermore, no one has yet come up with a convincing response to global warming. No one knows how to bring peace to the Middle East, Afghanistan or Iraq. And no one has a promising strategy for dealing with Islamist terrorism. At the same time, the West is searching for its place in an "incomplete world order," as journalist Peter Bender describes the current state of affairs. How strong will China, Russia and India become? How should the West interact with these countries? And is there even such a thing as the "West" anymore? It is time for leadership. And only one man inspires the kind of confidence that would enable him to assume this leadership: Barack Obama. Germans, in particular, are pinning their hopes on this man. Whereas just 10 percent favor the Republican candidate John McCain, fully 76 percent consider Barack Obama the better candidate. Hubertus Heil, the general secretary of Germany's Social Democratic Party (SPD), has even borrowed Obama's campaign slogan in an effort to whip up support. But Heil's feeble attempt to inform party members that "Yes, we can!" might as well have fallen on deaf ears. As Heil and later Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier learned, it takes more than words to produce charisma.

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This blog actually believes Obama is the Anti-Christ...

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Originally posted by Krypton This blog actually believes Obama is the Anti-Christ... CLICK

Isn't that great?

People are so fucking illogical...

Krypton, please knock on wood asap.

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Originally posted by Krypton The world, from Asia, to Africa, to Europe loves Obama, hates Bush, and cares very little for McCain.

lesson in civics: the world doesn't get to vote for US president. as unpopular as bush was around the world prior to his second term, he still won the US presidency. And believe me, Bush was very unpopular in europe prior to his second term. I was told this by about ten people on my vacation, it drove me fucking crazy how many people in europe needed to inject their opinion about bush into my vacation.

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Originally posted by Krypton I think Barack Obama's road to White House is all but decided. There is nothing that will stand in his way.

well, well. you got it all figured out don't ya?

constantly making references to myopia is starting get cliche' now with your posts



i thought this was funny...if only for Mathews

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 lesson in civics: the world doesn't get to vote for US president. as unpopular as bush was around the world prior to his second term, he still won the US presidency. And believe me, Bush was very unpopular in europe prior to his second term. I was told this by about ten people on my vacation, it drove me fucking crazy how many people in europe needed to inject their opinion about bush into my vacation.

DUH! Where did I say they do? Am I forbidden to talk about world opinion of our leadership? You do know both candidates go to foreign countries, and it's so very unproductive to not appeal for the support of our "allies" people's.

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well, well. you got it all figured out don't ya? constantly making references to myopia is starting get cliche' now with your posts i thought this was funny...if only for Mathews

"Myopic" is your bumper sticker word isn't it? It really means absolutely ZERO to me, you know that right??

My statement stands to be corrected. You're video actually solidified what I made this thread for. The world/media loves Obama, discuss. The fact that he didn't support the surge? Flip-flopper McCain really needs something better than that. Nobody except hardcore Republicans cares if Obama didn't vote for the surge! LOL, they should really find another talking point...

Jesus Krypton, why don't you just crawl up his ass? hahahaahha

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Jesus Krypton, why don't you just crawl up his ass? hahahaahha

I think he's worth being excited for after the last 7.5 years...

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Originally posted by Krypton I think Barack Obama's road to White House is all but decided. There is nothing that will stand in his way. The world, from Asia, to Africa, to Europe loves Obama, hates Bush, and cares very little for McCain. Has anything like this ever happened before?

I remember when Hillary's ego had her believing she was inevitable too. haha this statement above from you is hilarious. Do you jerk off to Obama or something? This totally reminds me of you... when it gets into the fawning over the Messiah:

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Energy is what's on the American people's mind. Four-dollar gasoline is on people's minds. This overseas Obama thing is a pure, unadulterated sideshow. Obama is not a great thinker. He's a believer. He has been indoctrinated at his schools, and he has believed what he has been told there. Among those beliefs is that the United States is fundamentally a force for provocation in the world and that the United States is at root responsible for the way we are treated and seen by those who hate us. This is what he believes. He's not a thinker. It's a form of self-loathing, not of himself, of course, because he's The Messiah, but in the aggregate, self-loathing of nation, the kind of self-loathing of America that the left here and in Europe embraces. That's why they love Obama, because he loathes America. He blames America. America's responsible for all that's wrong in the world. If we just had somebody in touch who has compassion, sensitivity, the rest of the world will miraculously love us. There will be no more evil. He travels around the world the same way he travels around the country, issuing pronouncements from on high, knowing that when he speaks, his words are taken down for all time, that he is smarter than anyone and everyone and that he has been touched by God's hand for this mission. He is The Messiah. I have never seen a presidential candidate with less to offer this nation, yet with more arrogance and self-delusion than Barack Obama. And you look at the reason and the way that some support Obama, you can understand the roots of tyranny, I think. I'm not saying he's a tyrant, don't misunderstand. What I'm saying is that so many people have to suspend both reason and experience to support a guy like Obama. You have to throw out common sense, you have to throw out experience, you have to throw out everything you know and totally entrust a personality that you don't even know personally. Obama not only thinks that he is the savior, so do his supporters. Obama knows that that's how he is viewed, as a savior, which is why he speaks as he does, which is why he acts as he does. He knows who his audience is; he knows how to connect with it. He's brilliant at that. He knows exactly who he's talking to. He's not acting as a president, as some of his critics have pointed out. He is above the mere office of presidency. He is on this earth to save humanity, and only he knows how to do it and only he can do it. His mind-set is not new. What is new is the extent to which it is worshiped in our country. The Europeans have always fallen in with people like this. I'm not going to mention any names, don't worry about it, but the Europeans have a history of falling for these kind of people. Americans have always been skeptical of politicians like this. Interestingly in the UK Telegraph, Greg Craig, former Clinton administration lawyer during impeachment, now an Obama supporter -- you won't see this in the media here -- but Greg Craig said, you know, we're a little worried in the Obama campaign about all these high expectations that our voters have for us because we know we're not going to be able to fulfill them. Now, I don't know if Obama has heard his buddy said this yet, but Obama fully expects his people to believe he can deliver this stuff. Some of the people in his inner circle are starting to say, "Wait, this is a little bit much. We got a guy who's going to be elected president who's going to sink sea levels? We gotta get a handle on this." Barry doesn't want to get a handle on it. Barry knows his audience. Obama's mind-set, again, isn't new. Why all of a sudden when in the past it's been the Europeans that have fallen for candidates and leaders like this, why have we always been skeptical of politicians like this? And what's changed? Why are we no longer skeptical? Decade after decade of Big Government promises, propaganda, claiming that one man can deliver you what you want and need and even when that man fails, as he always will, the expectation that with the right man, he will deliver you from poverty, from injustice, from racism, from want, from whatever it is that you want to be delivered from. Despite the overwhelming failure after failure after failure, people still invest in the government to one day get it right. This has led to a steady breakdown of individual responsibility, a breakdown of family, a steady assault on religion. So when you tear down those institutions, what do you have left? You have government, and who in government do you have? Politicians who promote themselves as capable of doing that which no man can ever do. So Obama is not merely their president. Obama is their father figure. Obama is their preacher. Obama is their Santa Claus all wrapped in one. Obama is their psychiatrist. Obama will calm them. Obama will provide for them. Obama will make the mean goblins in the night go away. Obama will make the bullies of the world like us because they will like him. There will be peace. This is what his believers believe. This is what the media believes. Yes, they do. This is more than just being in the tank. The media, they're not just being partisan to an ideological comrade. The media are really immersed in this.

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Originally posted by Krypton My statement stands to be corrected.

i agree. thats exactly what i was implying it's not November yet.

in fact, that statement, in a way, contradicts your original statement:

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I think Barack Obama's road to White House is all but decided

...either that or in no way has anything to do with original statement, but it's your thread.

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There is nothing that will stand in his way.

i rest my case.

what you're too in love to see is the only thing to stand in his way. the most dangerous thing...it's actually guy you're in love with. him. see?

congratulations! in your quest to show your devotion to a politician, you've managed to prove to the rest of us you're an intellectual soup sandwich. no offense.

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Originally posted by Q5echo i agree. thats exactly what i was implying it's not November yet. in fact, that statement, in a way, contradicts your original statement: ...either that or in no way has anything to do with original statement, but it's your thread. i rest my case. what you're too in love to see is the only thing to stand in his way. the most dangerous thing...it's actually guy you're in love with. him. see? congratulations! in your quest to show your devotion to a politician, you've managed to prove to the rest of us you're an intellectual soup sandwich. no offense.

Devotion to a politician!! HA!! Who are you hardline Republicans always referring to when talking about the "glory days"!? RONALD REAGAN. Reaganites. Reagan Conservatives. So liberals can't have their #1 guy? Right-wing hypocrisy at it's best..

Anyways, my initial assessment stands firm. I wasn't even referring to my support of Obama. I base my assessment from what I'm seeing, politically. The Republican Party are in serious survival mode. Separating my support of whatever candidate or party, if I were a poltical analyst looking at this, I can't see how Obama would not win, unless something REALLY REALLY BIG happened.

I have actually put money on it. I bet an American Army Major $100 that Obama would win. He bet me that McCain would win.

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I remember when Hillary's ego had her believing she was inevitable too. haha this statement above from you is hilarious. Do you jerk off to Obama or something? This totally reminds me of you... when it gets into the fawning over the Messiah:

I don't ever recall Hillary stating she believed her win was inevitable. Every politician has to act in a way as to give the impression that they themselves believe they will win, otherwise, why vote for a politician who doesn't at least show they themselves believe in themselves.

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Jesus Krypton, why don't you just crawl up his ass? hahahaahha

LOL, why don't the our fellow 30%er Bush lover's do the same??

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Originally posted by Krypton Devotion to a politician!! HA!! Who are you hardline Republicans always referring to when talking about the "glory days"!? RONALD REAGAN. Reaganites. Reagan Conservatives. So liberals can't have their #1 guy? Right-wing hypocrisy at it's best..

look, Krypton. i'm not saynig it's wrong to be devoted to a politician or a candidate (jeez you can be so dense sometimes). most of us that care have a horse in this race. any race really, if we care about it. just don't make yourself look like a fool doing it.

...and if you don't care what you look like, which is a completely valid POV, at least don't set yourself up for major disappointment basing your assessment on the idea that there is nothing that will stand in his way. thats all

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Originally posted by Krypton LOL, why don't the our fellow 30%er Bush lover's do the same??

A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

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Originally posted by The17sss A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

I'm pretty sure that most liberals are pissed off at this Congress more than you are... that's not exactly a fair comparison.

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Originally posted by The17sss A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

i thought Pelosi's Congress was in the single digits?

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Originally posted by Krypton DUH! Where did I say they do? Am I forbidden to talk about world opinion of our leadership?

obviously i know you understand that, i was being a smart-ass. you made it sound like world opinion is an important factor even though it has been clear from the past that the world opinion of american leaders is mostly irrelevant in american politics.

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Originally posted by Q5echo i thought Pelosi's Congress was in the single digits?

No, it's held steady between 14-16%... however, the GOP delegation is currently in single digits.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov No, it's held steady between 14-16%...

really? July 08 Rasmussen >LINK<

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however, the GOP delegation is currently in single digits.

really? they do co Congressional polling by delegation?

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Originally posted by Krypton LOL, why don't the our fellow 30%er Bush lover's do the same??

Dunno - I certainly couldn't vote for the guy.

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Originally posted by Q5echo look, Krypton. i'm not saynig it's wrong to be devoted to a politician or a candidate (jeez you can be so dense sometimes). most of us that care have a horse in this race. any race really, if we care about it. just don't make yourself look like a fool doing it. ...and if you don't care what you look like, which is a completely valid POV, at least don't set yourself up for major disappointment basing your assessment on the idea that there is nothing that will stand in his way. thats all

Point taken..

I was really making more of a political assessment. The support he has is not just domestic. It's global. What other candidate has anything close to "Obamania"? He has far more money, from GRASSROOTS supporters. He's characteristics are young, charming, charismatic. Some say like JFK. The hype surrounding him is unprecedented. He promises "change". Obama's campaign managers are PURE GENIUS. If I were running a marketing campaign, these are the people I'de want to hire! I also have to take into account the Democratic sweep of both houses of Congress. My truly honest assessment is, I can't see how the Democrats (Obama) won't win the executive office. That's not coming from my "devotion" to him. That's what I believe is a valid political analysis. And I put money on that!

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Originally posted by The17sss A 30% Bush lover is better than a 14% Democratic congress lover

goddam i hate that statistic; it's one of the most meaningless ones bantered about.

if you look at people rating their own representatives, it's bound to be higher. for instance Nancy Pelosi is 51%. (source). i would guess that it's the same for all if not most of the representatives, otherwise they wouldn't have been elected. duh!

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Originally posted by Q5echo really? July 08 Rasmussen >LINK< really? they do co Congressional polling by delegation?

Meh, I was thinking of July's Gallup poll.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108856/C...cordLow-14.aspx

But it does appear I was wrong - the GOP has overtaken the Dems in popularity in the last month.

what happened to your love affair with ron paul, krypton? or do you only like it when you back a winner?

Ok, now I am confused......
he is too young..
is Black....
is Muslim...
is too young..
Doesn't wear a flag pin....
blah blah blah....
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*A Jew!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

WTF??


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U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) attends a ceremony in the Hall of Remembrance at Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem July 23, 2008. Obama began a visit to Jerusalem on Wednesday pledging staunch support for Israel and saying that if elected, he would work to reinvigorate the Middle East peace process. REUTERS/Ronen Zvulun (JERUSALEM) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008

now that we've got that out of the way, um...does this really surprise anyone?

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