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Posted by Magnus on Jul-30-2008 18:48:

Question Registering with BMI

I'm looking for some advice here. Has anyone that has had a track signed with a label also regsitered with BMI? I'm being told I should do this. From the reading online I've done, this seems more geared towards mainstream music, things that will get airplay on radio stations, etc. So I'm wondering is this even worth doing for EDM? Any advice or experiences you might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


Posted by sterilis on Jul-30-2008 18:51:

i was told to do the same but i think its pointless in edm imo


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-30-2008 20:23:

i have all my music registered this is part of the publishing copyright and where most money is for artists these days.

i got my first royalty check in may... 6 G-Star stores in california were playing my tune -- if i didn't register, they would have held the money for up to 3yrs and if no one claims it return it to G-Star.

register your music, you never know who might be doing what with it


Posted by Magnus on Jul-30-2008 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
i have all my music registered this is part of the publishing copyright and where most money is for artists these days.

i got my first royalty check in may... 6 G-Star stores in california were playing my tune -- if i didn't register, they would have held the money for up to 3yrs and if no one claims it return it to G-Star.

register your music, you never know who might be doing what with it


Wow thanks for that info. One question I have though is how does BMI know what 6 G-Star stores in California are playing? Do legit businesses have to report every track they play throughout a day or something in a place of business? Where is the line drawn? Is it between a regular joe consumer and a business? Thanks again.


Posted by Subtle on Jul-30-2008 22:10:

How exactly do u register your music, and how does it get reported ?


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-30-2008 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnus
Wow thanks for that info. One question I have though is how does BMI know what 6 G-Star stores in California are playing? Do legit businesses have to report every track they play throughout a day or something in a place of business? Where is the line drawn? Is it between a regular joe consumer and a business? Thanks again.


depending on the form of broadcast as far as i know. i think it's cheapier for these multi national corporations to write down all their songs and submit it rather than trying to find the loopholes and have to deal with lawsuits.

my check wasn't big but it's cool to know that stuff.

i also got a phone call that a track of mine was being played in a local macy's... hah! so we'll see if i ever get $$ from that one.

@subtle -- join BMI (it's a few day process), people that use your song report it and companies like BMI put everything together.


Posted by Subtle on Jul-30-2008 22:39:

BMI is the only company that does this ?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-30-2008 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
BMI is the only company that does this ?

in norway we have Tono.


Posted by Subtle on Jul-30-2008 22:49:

How does all this work when ur track is signed to a label ?

If ur track gets played 10000 times u get all the cash or what ?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-30-2008 23:19:

i think this is whats meant with 3rd parties in contracts and usualy its 50% on the ones ive seen. but theres no problem registering your track once its finished before signing it. u will then get a ISRC (or something)-code that radiostations etc use to count. have no idea what will happend if u recieve money from a radiostation if the track is signed to a label tho caus normaly u transfer the rights. have no experience with it myself just started reading about it.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-30-2008 23:24:

there are a few companies but BMI seems to be the staple. i answered a thread a few months back regarding music copyright.

two forms one in the form of master and one in the form of publishing. this would be related to your publishing agreement. if your label is taking a cut of your publishing they should have registered the track on BMI already.


Posted by zodiac9 on Jul-30-2008 23:40:

How much per year does it cost to be a BMI member? I looked all over the website, it doesn't say. If there is a fee, and I'm betting there is, I doubt it's worth it for EDM artists. Isn't the label responsible for getting publishing royalties to you? Any company that wanted to use your music would be contacting your label. Seems to me, BMI is for artists that are specifically targeting the publishing market.


Posted by Theran on Jul-31-2008 14:27:

Here in Holland we have Buma-Stemra, in Belgium its Sabam.
I think every country has there own organisation.


Posted by Magnus on Jul-31-2008 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by zodiac9
How much per year does it cost to be a BMI member? I looked all over the website, it doesn't say. If there is a fee, and I'm betting there is, I doubt it's worth it for EDM artists. Isn't the label responsible for getting publishing royalties to you? Any company that wanted to use your music would be contacting your label. Seems to me, BMI is for artists that are specifically targeting the publishing market.


I just signed up and got my BMI login and agreement and it cost me nothing so far. Anythony does an artist ever have to pay anything out of pocket to BMI?


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-31-2008 18:16:

i haven't paid any dues except when a royalty check has come in(and doing the math on my check they took 15-16%). if you want to read the history of BMI and how it works... this is a good article:

http://www.woodpecker.com/writing/e...y-politics.html

there is also another article attached to it which tells you even more.

granted these a bit bias, they do list out the pros & cons of the system.

here's another:

http://www.texasheritagemusic.org/special_stories/BMI%20%20Solutions.pdf


Posted by zodiac9 on Jul-31-2008 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
i haven't paid any dues except when a royalty check has come in(and doing the math on my check they took 15-16%). if you want to read the history of BMI and how it works... this is a good article:


I thought maybe it was a percentage deal like that. Sounds good to me. I'll be signing up, have nothing to lose. I had no idea such a thing existed. That's why I still visit this forum, always something new to learn.


Posted by lenieNt Force on Aug-01-2008 05:45:

Would it be clever to sign it to more than one organisation? For example sign it to both BMI, Tono in Norway, Buma-Stemra in Holland and Sabam in Belgium? Or is this unnecessary? Does BMI cover all over the world?


Posted by Zombie0729 on Aug-01-2008 08:50:

quote:
Originally posted by lenieNt Force
Would it be clever to sign it to more than one organisation? For example sign it to both BMI, Tono in Norway, Buma-Stemra in Holland and Sabam in Belgium? Or is this unnecessary? Does BMI cover all over the world?


i don't think that's possible. well i mean you personally could register with both but you couldn't register your tune with BMI & Tono. I believe (and i had a similar thought so bare with me) that BMI holds what they call a 'floating' copyright. this gives them legal authority to collect on royalties and then pay dividends to the artists. if that's the case only one of the companies can hold the copyright (from my understanding).


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2008 12:53:

so.. was it free to register on BMI? and did u register your tracks? was thinking about it myself. did u get IRSC-numbers on them ?


Posted by Subtle on Aug-01-2008 13:39:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
so.. was it free to register on BMI? and did u register your tracks? was thinking about it myself. did u get IRSC-numbers on them ?
You cant register there as you`re not paying tax in the US.


Posted by Theran on Aug-01-2008 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
i don't think that's possible. well i mean you personally could register with both but you couldn't register your tune with BMI & Tono. I believe (and i had a similar thought so bare with me) that BMI holds what they call a 'floating' copyright. this gives them legal authority to collect on royalties and then pay dividends to the artists. if that's the case only one of the companies can hold the copyright (from my understanding).


That's true. Buma/Stemra handles my copyrights over the globe. You only need to sign up with one of these organisations, preferably the one in your country.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2008 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
You cant register there as you`re not paying tax in the US.

so i have to use tono? fuck



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