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Beatmathcing : Hi's VS Low's
When you beatmatch do you listen mostly to Hi's or to Lower frequencies? I usually try to follow the bass line of the master track in order to beatmatch perfectly, yet this is usually harder to listen to and other frequencies tend to come into the way
Re: Beatmathcing : Hi's VS Low's
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| Originally posted by gidra When you beatmatch do you listen mostly to Hi's or to Lower frequencies? I usually try to follow the bass line of the master track in order to beatmatch perfectly, yet this is usually harder to listen to and other frequencies tend to come into the way |
Aye, just thought to hear others' opinion
I find myself using the highs, cause they are almost always there. 
Always listen to the rhythm.
It's the only way to beatmatch.... 
After a while everyone beatmatches with the rhythm rather than specific parts of the structure, whether they realise they've developed the ability or not, like everything else in mixing: it comes with time.
highs
lows are often distorted and longer duration sounds, whereas high percs are crisp and short, which makes them easier to get spot on.
trouble is when your music is not quantized, like a lot of the stuff i play.
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| Originally posted by Jarvmeister Always listen to the rhythm. It's the only way to beatmatch.... After a while everyone beatmatches with the rhythm rather than specific parts of the structure, whether they realise they've developed the ability or not, like everything else in mixing: it comes with time. |
Definitely highs, for the reasons nef cited. Shorter sounds = more precision
Depends on the track... Sometimes the bass because they are so clear, or sometimes the melody.
high's
Usually the over all rhythm of the tracks..
If that don't work out, I go for the bass.
I use the lows to match them roughly, then perfect them with the highs.
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| Originally posted by Jarvmeister Always listen to the rhythm. It's the only way to beatmatch.... After a while everyone beatmatches with the rhythm rather than specific parts of the structure, whether they realise they've developed the ability or not, like everything else in mixing: it comes with time. |
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| Originally posted by Jarvmeister Always listen to the rhythm. It's the only way to beatmatch.... After a while everyone beatmatches with the rhythm rather than specific parts of the structure, whether they realise they've developed the ability or not, like everything else in mixing: it comes with time. |
Hi's by far.
Figured that out when I was starting off a few years ago and tried to mix breakbeat.
cheers for your ideas
Of course on a scientific level 
time-frequency uncertainty says that the more accurately you measure frequency (which our ears do best at low frequencies), the less accurately you can measure temporal (time-based) events. Thus focussing on the higher frequencies will allow you to better judge whether two tracks are in time or not
But that said, producers are more likely to put kicks bang on the beat, while hi-hats are often shuffled (moved slightly out of time) to give more of a groove. Kick drums actually have a lot more high frequencies than a lot of people think - the "click" at the start often has strong frequencies above 5 kHz (higher than a lot of lead synths etc have), which is actually the part you find yourself beatmatching with when you're listening out for the kick drums.
i rarely beatmatch the bassdrum, i usually keep an ear out for the snare whenever it's prevalent because that makes it very easy and fast to beatmatch for me.
p.s. when spinning breaks or dnb i always match highs, when spinning trance it just depends
I tend to use the whole song in general to beatmatch. I like to mix through small breakdowns to keep the energy up so I can't rely on listening to any one part of a song. People have been playing music together in time forever without it having a constant kick drum, so you definitely don't need to listen any single instrument to find the beat as any of them will do.
i've got that SYNC button on my Numark DMC2 (Virtual DJ) just count your 16 beats, CUE your 2nd song press SYNC and press play when ready. really never need to nudge... works like a charm
Just practised some beatmatching focusing on the hi's, going more accurately now and mixing is easier. thanks
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| Originally posted by Raphie i've got that SYNC button on my Numark DMC2 (Virtual DJ) just count your 16 beats, CUE your 2nd song press SYNC and press play when ready. really never need to nudge... works like a charm |
Can't help feeling some sarcasm there 
Actually the SYNC button does not work THAT well it often snaps 1 beat off. i.e. the clap of the new song is on 1 and 3 rather than 2 and 4... Though it's handy when your "nearly there" and tyou don't wat to spend another 16 beats in te CUE..... Tere is one thin that i hate more than not beatmatching 1-2-3-4 perfectly and that is not matching the 8 or 16 bar arrangement properly.
I'll do the initial line up with the bass EQ on and match the beats like that - but that doesn't mean I'll just listen to bass and not pay attention to anything else. The sharp 'snap' of the snare/hand clap is a definite key guide, the hi-hats are a key, even the bass-driving rhythm is a key to help you get the speed right.
The thing is, when i start a mix, the bass is normally half-way to killed, so though I'll line up the mix with the bass on, (and also when I bring it back in through the fade up) the rest of the mix is dependent on the hi hats, the snare, the rythm etc as stated earlier in the post.
It's not an either or in my opinion, you need the bigger picture at different stages through the mix.
John
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