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Obama backs away from McCain's debate challenge

WASHINGTON - Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain's challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.

In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, "I think that's a great idea." In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.

On Saturday, in a letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the short period between the last political convention and the first proposed debate made it likely that the commission-sponsored debates would be the only ones.

"We've committed to the three debates on the table," campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Saturday in an interview. "It's likely they will be the three appearances by the candidates this fall."

Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings.

McCain's campaign disparaged Obama for backing off. "We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obamas magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope hell reconsider," spokesman Brian Rogers said.

The first debate planned by the commission is set for Sept. 26 in Oxford, Miss., three weeks after the Republican National Convention concludes Sept. 4. The Democratic convention is scheduled for Aug. 25-28.

The other presidential debates are set for Oct. 7 and Oct. 15 and the vice presidential debate for Oct. 2.

A day after Obama clinched the Democratic nomination in early June, McCain challenged Obama to a series of 10 town hall meetings. The candidates' campaigns began negotiations, telling reporters that they agreed in spirit to joint appearances.

When the idea first came up from the McCain campaign that May, Obama was still battling Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination. Obama said then: "Obviously, we would have to think through the logistics on that, but ... if I have the opportunity to debate substantive issues before the voters with John McCain, that's something that I am going to welcome."

In June, Plouffe had suggested Obama-McCain meetings more along the lines of the historic Lincoln-Douglas debates. During Abraham Lincoln's Senate campaign against Stephen Douglas in 1858, the candidates met seven times across Illinois. One spoke for an hour, the other for an hour and a half, and the first was allowed a half-hour rebuttal.

Plouffe said Saturday that Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois will be Obama's representative in further discussions with the commission.

The Commission on Presidential Debates, established in 1987, sponsors and produces debates featuring the presidential and vice presidential candidates of the major parties. The nonprofit and nonpartisan organization has sponsored all the presidential debates since 1988.

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Gee I guess that giving speeches and not being questioned is the way that Obama prefers

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Originally posted by LatinLover Gee I guess that giving speeches and not being questioned is the way that Obama prefers

Get your facts straight...



And from your own article...

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Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings.

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Originally posted by Krypton Get your facts straight... And from your own article...

Being question by unintelligent dosen't count.

What Obama has refused in to travel with Mccain and do town hall meetings together.

Every modern debate has been a joke anyway...I would love to see something similar to the Lincoln Douglass debates... Just a huge 2-3 hour conversation between the two of them that is televised. Man to man...hitting on all the issues with no time limits or stupid moderators interrupting. No pretense..no 10 second soundbites...just a serious debate on policy and philosophy.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Every modern debate has been a joke anyway...I would love to see something similar to the Lincoln Douglass debates... Just a huge 2-3 hour conversation between the two of them that is televised. Man to man...hitting on all the issues with no time limits or stupid moderators interrupting. No pretense..no 10 second soundbites...just a serious debate on policy and philosophy.

Hillary challenged him in the primaries. What makes you think now that "world rockstar" is going to accept it for the presidential?

Clearly Obama is playing it safe!

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Originally posted by LatinLover Being question by unintelligent dosen't count.

This is what you said..

"Gee I guess that giving speeches and not being questioned is the way that Obama prefers"

He DOES get questioned. You should accept that you were wrong. You say the "questioners are unintelligent". Is that all you've got? Are you a psychologist?

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What Obama has refused in to travel with Mccain and do town hall meetings together.

Gee, I guess I need to REPOST this again...

--->Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings. <---

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Originally posted by Krypton This is what you said.. "Gee I guess that giving speeches and not being questioned is the way that Obama prefers" He DOES get questioned. You should accept that you were wrong. You say the "questioners are unintelligent". Is that all you've got? Are you a psychologist? Gee, I guess I need to REPOST this again... --->Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings. <---

I mean even Obamas unintelligent supporters havent figuered out to this day that he speaks in an encrypted language. He never says a yes or a no, he leaves it up for suspense I guess his hollywood friends have taught him well

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Originally posted by LatinLover I mean even Obamas unintelligent supporters havent figuered out to this day that he speaks in an encrypted language. He never says a yes or a no, he leaves it up for suspense I guess his hollywood friends have taught him well

Your stupidity shows when you equate intelligence to political affiliation. And now you've drifted into conspiracy theories by saying he speaks in encrypted language. Now his "Hollywood friends" are teaching him this encrypted language?

You must be smokin that good sh*t...

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Originally posted by Krypton --->Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings. <---

From today's LA Times:

"In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, "I think that's a great idea." In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events. Obama said then: "Obviously, we would have to think through the logistics on that, but ... if I have the opportunity to debate substantive issues before the voters with John McCain, that's something that I am going to welcome."

Have you seen the mumbling and stumbling in regular interviews when he gets asked questions he's not prepared for? It's downright hilarious... he drifts off on tangent after tanget searching for a thought that makes sense. He's too much of a pussy to do it without an ear piece and pre-programed questions.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Every modern debate has been a joke anyway...I would love to see something similar to the Lincoln Douglass debates... Just a huge 2-3 hour conversation between the two of them that is televised. Man to man...hitting on all the issues with no time limits or stupid moderators interrupting. No pretense..no 10 second soundbites...just a serious debate on policy and philosophy.

the guy is an empty suit. if it's not scripted or with a compliant moderator/interviewer he's a stammering doofus.

if he won't do it Lincoln/Douglas style with Clinton he sure as hell won't step up to McCain. sad really.

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Originally posted by Q5echo the guy is an empty suit. if it's not scripted or with a compliant moderator/interviewer he's a stammering doofus. if he won't do it Lincoln/Douglas style with Clinton he sure as hell won't step up to McCain. sad really.

Yeah, McCain is incredible when it comes to fielding "real world" questioning on his feet.




...and when it comes to current events, he's even better. I'm sure we've all seen those videos as well.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Every modern debate has been a joke anyway...I would love to see something similar to the Lincoln Douglass debates... Just a huge 2-3 hour conversation between the two of them that is televised. Man to man...hitting on all the issues with no time limits or stupid moderators interrupting. No pretense..no 10 second soundbites...just a serious debate on policy and philosophy.

But it would make awful TV

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Originally posted by Q5echo if he won't do it Lincoln/Douglas style with Clinton he sure as hell won't step up to McCain. sad really.

I'de like a Lincoln/Douglas debate, but you don't know what you're talking about when you say he can't handle anything without a script or "compliant interviewer".

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From today's LA Times: "In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, "I think that's a great idea." In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events. Obama said then: "Obviously, we would have to think through the logistics on that, but ... if I have the opportunity to debate substantive issues before the voters with John McCain, that's something that I am going to welcome." Have you seen the mumbling and stumbling in regular interviews when he gets asked questions he's not prepared for? It's downright hilarious... he drifts off on tangent after tanget searching for a thought that makes sense. He's too much of a pussy to do it without an ear piece and pre-programed questions.

From the AP

"Obama's reversal on town hall debates is part of a play-it-safe strategy he's adopted since claiming the nomination and grabbing a lead in national polls. Advisers to the Illinois senator, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss strategy, say Obama is reluctant to take chances or give McCain a high-profile stage now that Obama's the front-runner.

Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings."

It seems like Obama's advisers are pretty damn good at what they. You McCainites wish Obama would give McCain the light of day. If I was the front runner, I'de tell McCain to fck off. I say let the McCain campaign continue its gaffs and dirty politics. They are no doubt, catering to their hardlin Republican base, which has shrunk substantially the past 4 years. They are their worst enemy, not Obama.

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Originally posted by Krypton you don't know what you're talking about when you say he can't handle anything without a script or "compliant interviewer".

"Barack Obama�s campaign made its distaste for free-style debates more or less official yesterday in their letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates. Team Obama only will agree to three debates, which has been the tradition through the last several presidential cycles, and all of them in the standard moderated format. He will not accept McCain�s challenge to meet him in a format where voters can ask the questions:

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Obama�s campaign released a letter this afternoon from campaign manager David Plouffe to the Commission on Presidential Debates only agreeing to the traditional three sanctioned fall debates and single vice presidential forum

"The McCain campaign responded with a dose of sarcasm:

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�We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama�s magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope he�ll reconsider.�

This news will surprise no one that has followed the number of gaffes Obama makes when speaking off the cuff. When the press finally got embarrassed by their fawning attitude and asked him tough questions in the Pennsylvania debate, Obama folded like a cheap suit against Hillary � and immediately stopped appearing in debates. He has provided an almost endless series of gaffes when speaking extemporaneously, and obviously wants no part of McCain in this format.
Either way, McCain can use this response to his advantage. He can continue appearing in town-hall forums and openly question why Obama lacks the courage to join him. In the traditional presidential debates, McCain can remind the national audience that Obama needed to hide behind the skirts of the media moderators rather than face voter questions directly. It�s a bonus for McCain in that sense, although he would have preferred getting Obama into his preferred format and watching him get exposed for the inexperienced na�f that Obama clearly is."


I guess "anytime, anywhere" doesn't really mean what it sounds like. This isn't the Obama I thought I knew (to paraphrase what he says about everyone that he's associated with who turns out to make him look bad). Dude, I can only imagine how you're going to react if McCain wins the presidency.

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Originally posted by The17sss I guess "anytime, anywhere" doesn't really mean what it sounds like. This isn't the Obama I thought I knew (to paraphrase what he says about everyone that he's associated with who turns out to make him look bad). Dude, I can only imagine how you're going to react if McCain wins the presidency.

I've said my piece..

If McCain wins, I'm packing up and moving to Canada/Australia..

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Originally posted by Krypton I've said my piece.. If McCain wins, I'm packing up and moving to Canada/Australia..

Get your degree from UT first, it's a good school .

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Originally posted by Krypton From the AP "Obama's reversal on town hall debates is part of a play-it-safe strategy he's adopted since claiming the nomination and grabbing a lead in national polls. Advisers to the Illinois senator, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss strategy, say Obama is reluctant to take chances or give McCain a high-profile stage now that Obama's the front-runner. Asked by The Associated Press if that meant Obama would not agree to any other debates, Psaki said, "We're not saying that." She said the McCain campaign had rejected Obama's proposal for two joint town hall meetings." It seems like Obama's advisers are pretty damn good at what they. You McCainites wish Obama would give McCain the light of day. If I was the front runner, I'de tell McCain to fck off. I say let the McCain campaign continue its gaffs and dirty politics. They are no doubt, catering to their hardlin Republican base, which has shrunk substantially the past 4 years. They are their worst enemy, not Obama.

Okay... This is not news It just reinforces what I said in my other post. HE IS PLAYING IT SAFE! It just tells you about his character... Why the hell would you vote for a candidate that wont even take the stage (Lincoln/Douglas debate) so the American people can have a glimpse of what he is all about. I surely dont want a president with this kind of attitude. That is arrogant from his part and a lack of character. Trust me, anyone that is committed and would engage in this type of debate ill have some respect towards them. Because it atleast tells you that they have the courage and are not afraid to plant their ideas to the American people, without being worried about the results of the polls the next day.

A true leader knows how to take risks and not play it safe all the time. Even Hillary was willing to participate in this type of debate, without playing the "We're not saying that" game. I am no Hillary fan, but that type of attitude is what made me have some respect towards her.

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Originally posted by Krypton I've said my piece.. If McCain wins, I'm packing up and moving to Canada/Australia..

good lord man, why?

thats assuming they'd take your glowstick twirling, no-job-having, unskilled ass. if youre afraid of another war, what makes you think Canada and Australia wouldn't do what they've done in the past? otherwise, wtf would be the point?

Presidents come and go. stick with fund managing (you seem to enjoy and take pride in it). stay in America. make some cheese. marry a young Mexican girl and poop out some kids.

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Originally posted by LatinLover Okay... This is not news It just reinforces what I said in my other post. HE IS PLAYING IT SAFE! It just tells you about his character... Why the hell would you vote for a candidate that wont even take the stage (Lincoln/Douglas debate) so the American people can have a glimpse of what he is all about. I surely dont want a president with this kind of attitude. That is arrogant from his part and a lack of character. Trust me, anyone that is committed and would engage in this type of debate ill have some respect towards them. Because it atleast tells you that they have the courage and are not afraid to plant their ideas to the American people, without being worried about the results of the polls the next day. A true leader knows how to take risks and not play it safe all the time. Even Hillary was willing to participate in this type of debate, without playing the "We're not saying that" game. I am no Hillary fan, but that type of attitude is what made me have some respect towards her.

I respectfully disagree..

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Originally posted by Q5echo good lord man, why?

I was being sarcastic.. But when I do make money, I plan on buying a second home abroad, in case the much feared police state becomes a reality.

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thats assuming they'd take your glowstick twirling, no-job-having, unskilled ass. if youre afraid of another war, what makes you think Canada and Australia wouldn't do what they've done in the past? otherwise, wtf would be the point?

I can get paid $500/night for spinning fire SON, so don't be hating. You know I'm on summer vacation, and that I'm very skilled..

Again, I was being sarcastic when I said I'm moving abroad if McCain wins. But I consider Canada and Australia to be much more laid back places to live. They aren't going around the world looking for enemies...

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Presidents come and go. stick with fund managing (you seem to enjoy and take pride in it). stay in America. make some cheese. marry a young Mexican girl and poop out some kids.

HAHA

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Originally posted by Q5echo what makes you think Canada and Australia wouldn't do what they've done in the past?

a change of government.

Krypton,

No wonder you need places like Canada, so the government can take care of you. That just demonstrates to us the type of socilialist life you so much want. Might as well try moving to Cuba or Venezuela Sorry that America dissapoints you, I mean I can't blame it... If glowsticking is the only way for you to demonstrate your skills and be compensated for it.

Please, no one is hating. Just accept the facts as they are.

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Originally posted by LatinLover Krypton, No wonder you need places like Canada, so the government can take care of you. That just demonstrates to us the type of socilialist life you so much want. Might as well try moving to Cuba or Venezuela Sorry that America dissapoints you, I mean I can't blame it... If glowsticking is the only way for you to demonstrate your skills and be compensated for it. Please, no one is hating. Just accept the facts as they are.

canada and australia have nothing to do with socialism.

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Originally posted by LatinLover Krypton, No wonder you need places like Canada, so the government can take care of you. That just demonstrates to us the type of socilialist life you so much want. Might as well try moving to Cuba or Venezuela Sorry that America dissapoints you, I mean I can't blame it... Please, no one is hating. Just accept the facts as they are.

LOL.. What's a socilialist? Is that new?

I want my tax dollars spent here at home, not in shtholes like Iraq. If you want to call that socialist, then you're a IDIOT..

You perfectly fit several characteristics of right-wing authoritarian followers..

1. Acceptance of inequality.
2. Submissive of authority.
3. Trust untrustworthy authorities.
4. Narrow-minded.
5. Dogmatic.
6. Hypocritical.
7. Highly self-righteous.
8. Little self-awareness.
9. Usually politically and economically conservative/Republican

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If glowsticking is the only way for you to demonstrate your skills and be compensated for it.

*golf clap*

Get a life dude..

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Originally posted by Krypton LOL.. What's a socilialist? Is that new? I want my tax dollars spent here at home, not in shtholes like Iraq. If you want to call that socialist, then you're a IDIOT.. You perfectly fit several characteristics of right-wing authoritarian followers.. 1. Acceptance of inequality. 2. Submissive of authority. 3. Trust untrustworthy authorities. 4. Narrow-minded. 5. Dogmatic. 6. Hypocritical. 7. Highly self-righteous. 8. Little self-awareness. 9. Usually politically and economically conservative/Republican *golf clap* Get a life dude..

Dude, you are very creative. You surely like to fabricate BS.


Krypton, I get the fact that Obama rocks your world, and that you blindly follow him while being aware of his lack of character and leadership. I can't blame the hype that all the college kiddos have created.

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