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Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-03-2008 12:53:

Example of track

Below is a link to a track I am currently working on.

It is not arranged just a quick arrangement to demo what it sounds like. I would love someone to tell me is it mastered right? does the mix sound ok?

I mixed it to 0.0
ran it through ozone and exiters and stuff

Also if you think the ideas are worth pursueing.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/90r999


Posted by Raphie on Aug-03-2008 21:36:

VERY annoying track
Sounds like some Roland TR-303 DEMO

Quality wise, it lacks highs, mid sounds a bit muddy and it lacks bass (though i dunno if bass was intended)

Nice patches though, but as yuo mentioned yourself you will need to arrange


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 07:44:

Yeah i just threw all the samples together in a rough order annoyed me after a few hours on repeat lol.

I'm glad you like the patches i made them all well not all but the hoover and sub bass on z3ta and reasons malstrom.

Im interested you think it lacks bass because I dont know about sub basses see my previous post. I have put a sub bass in and turned it up as well i only have small monitors and my fried said it would rock on bigger speakers. Hmm any advise on boosting the bottom end?

the highs are turned down because everyone said my music sounded old which i agree with but i thought it might be to open hi hats i used the old chiche umts umts umts you know. so i tried to filter them down and phase them and stuff.

Thanks for feedback. Do you think it could be turned into a track or shall i leave it alone?


Posted by MSZ on Aug-04-2008 08:45:

yo this is terrible


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-04-2008 09:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonic_c
Do you think it could be turned into a track or shall i leave it alone?

Sounds like random sounds mashed into one big mess for me.


Posted by djsphere on Aug-04-2008 09:23:

amateurish......oh wait this is actually childish


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 10:03:

Thanks again for very helpful advice guys!


Posted by Raphie on Aug-04-2008 10:03:

Patches are ok'ish but i think you will find that when exploring the potential of this track further you will move to Techno territory rather than Trance. I sort of feel your angle where you want to head to, there is some kind of hook hidden in there (though it's currently far far away)

My 2ct's: Listen to a lot of Deep Techno tracks, build a Tribal type minimalistic groove dramatize your hook a lot more and build up to it only 2x or 3x in a 5 min track rather than 200 times in 1min loop.

Also start counting 1-16 and respect the flow of dance. f you take all of this into account i will be prepared to give you further feedback on your next version (which should ben be posted in the producer promotion subforum)


Posted by Raphie on Aug-04-2008 10:05:

Patches are ok'ish but i think you will find that when exploring the potential of this track further you will move to Techno territory rather than Trance. I sort of feel your angle where you want to head to, there is some kind of hook hidden in there (though it's currently far far away)

My 2ct's: Listen to a lot of Deep Techno tracks, build a Tribal type minimalistic groove dramatize your hook a lot more and build up to it only 2x or 3x in a 5 min track rather than 200 times in 1min loop.

Also start counting 1-16 and respect the flow of dance. f you take all of this into account i will be prepared to give you further feedback on your next version (which should ben be posted in the producer promotion subforum)


Posted by Raphie on Aug-04-2008 10:05:

Patches are ok'ish but i think you will find that when exploring the potential of this track further you will move to Techno territory rather than Trance. I sort of feel your angle where you want to head to, there is some kind of hook hidden in there (though it's currently far far away)

My 2ct's: Listen to a lot of Deep Techno tracks, build a Tribal type minimalistic groove dramatize your hook a lot more and build up to it only 2x or 3x in a 5 min track rather than 200 times in 1min loop.

Also start counting 1-16 and respect the flow of dance. f you take all of this into account i will be prepared to give you further feedback on your next version (which should ben be posted in the producer promotion subforum)


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by djsphere
amateurish......oh wait this is actually childish


Unhelpful - no need to be insulting you could have left it at amaturish and i would have agreed. Do not reply to anymore of my posts or if you do dont direct them at me. I didnt join to speak to people like you !

To everyone else thanks for feedback I will start over and hopefully get some fresh ideas. Hopefully get it right soon

Also can someone direct me to the amature posting section. I am not at a skill level to produce at the level of some of you guys and rather than have you just rip every post i make to bits insulting me on the way I would rather post in a section where people accept that some people are still learning!


Posted by Theran on Aug-04-2008 10:10:

quote:
Originally posted by djsphere
amateurish......oh wait this is actually childish


I don't think this is very nice. People here should be helping each other instead of insulting. C'mon guys!


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 10:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Patches are ok'ish but i think you will find that when exploring the potential of this track further you will move to Techno territory rather than Trance. I sort of feel your angle where you want to head to, there is some kind of hook hidden in there (though it's currently far far away)

My 2ct's: Listen to a lot of Deep Techno tracks, build a Tribal type minimalistic groove dramatize your hook a lot more and build up to it only 2x or 3x in a 5 min track rather than 200 times in 1min loop.

Also start counting 1-16 and respect the flow of dance. f you take all of this into account i will be prepared to give you further feedback on your next version (which should ben be posted in the producer promotion subforum)


This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you Raphie i will take your advice on board!


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 10:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Patches are ok'ish but i think you will find that when exploring the potential of this track further you will move to Techno territory rather than Trance. I sort of feel your angle where you want to head to, there is some kind of hook hidden in there (though it's currently far far away)

My 2ct's: Listen to a lot of Deep Techno tracks, build a Tribal type minimalistic groove dramatize your hook a lot more and build up to it only 2x or 3x in a 5 min track rather than 200 times in 1min loop.

Also start counting 1-16 and respect the flow of dance. f you take all of this into account i will be prepared to give you further feedback on your next version (which should ben be posted in the producer promotion subforum)


This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you Raphie i will take your advice on board!


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 10:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Patches are ok'ish but i think you will find that when exploring the potential of this track further you will move to Techno territory rather than Trance. I sort of feel your angle where you want to head to, there is some kind of hook hidden in there (though it's currently far far away)

My 2ct's: Listen to a lot of Deep Techno tracks, build a Tribal type minimalistic groove dramatize your hook a lot more and build up to it only 2x or 3x in a 5 min track rather than 200 times in 1min loop.

Also start counting 1-16 and respect the flow of dance. f you take all of this into account i will be prepared to give you further feedback on your next version (which should ben be posted in the producer promotion subforum)


This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you Raphie i will take your advice on board!


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 10:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Patches are ok'ish but i think you will find that when exploring the potential of this track further you will move to Techno territory rather than Trance. I sort of feel your angle where you want to head to, there is some kind of hook hidden in there (though it's currently far far away)

My 2ct's: Listen to a lot of Deep Techno tracks, build a Tribal type minimalistic groove dramatize your hook a lot more and build up to it only 2x or 3x in a 5 min track rather than 200 times in 1min loop.

Also start counting 1-16 and respect the flow of dance. f you take all of this into account i will be prepared to give you further feedback on your next version (which should ben be posted in the producer promotion subforum)


This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you Raphie i will take your advice on board!


Posted by Cetra� on Aug-04-2008 11:15:

Needs lots and lots of work. If this was my production i would clear the slate and start again

So very many annoying sounds


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 11:33:

yeah I agree Im going to wipe clean. Ill explain why i made this i really make melodic euphoric trance. A lot of harder interesting glitch packed trance is coming out with heavy low ends and it really gets me going I wanted to have a go. Maybe i stick with what i know eh? lol


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-04-2008 13:49:

anarchy!


Posted by Falck on Aug-04-2008 15:29:

I pretty much agree with Raphie here, study the structure of other songs you like and try to keep it together in yours. About making the over all sound better, there's probably a little road to walk in choosing sounds, mixing, applying effects like compression and so on, but those things are great fun to learn and experiment with. So keep working. Also check out earlier threads about mixing, kicks, compression etc. in this forum, which I find is a invaluable source of relevant information.

/Cheers

And I really don't see the point of being rude to beginners, we have all been there...


Posted by Sonic_c on Aug-04-2008 15:47:

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And I really don't see the point of being rude to beginners, we have all been there...


Thanks so much do you know I have been on this forum one week thought it would be full of fellow trance lovers all happy and nice and stuff everytime I post someone always starts taking the mickey then others join in its crap being a newbie



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