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Too Much Techno, Tech House and Minimal?

I've only been back in the city for a month, but it is my observation that there is an overabundance of techno* (and other sub genres) in Toronto. As you all know, I love techno. Many/most of my favourite DJs are techno DJs. However, I think the genre is being bastardized to the point where I'm getting sick of hearing it. It seems everyone and their brother is the latest techno wizard, with the "sickest techno tracks" that no one else has.

I also found this was actually the same all over Europe. 95% of all the events I've been to in the past year in Europe have been techno nights. Now, being back in Toronto, I realize the same thing is happening here. The problem is that there seems to be a bit of a lack of quality parties featuring DJs who play other genres.

Techno is a great genre, but it is very austere, dark, and takes itself way too seriously some times.

Discuss.

*I will call the current popular sound in Toronto "techno" for ease of discussion on this board. One of my actual pet peeves recently is the new buzz word for this popular sound being "techno" instead of "minimal". Most times, tracks are incorrectly called either one of these genres, when really what is usually being described is tech house.

It depends on whatever scene you're into. Your interest in it makes you ignore the others.

I'd say House is the reigning scene tho. I think Trance is dying here, but as I said, I don't follow it enough now to know for sure.

Edit: So you're talking about Minimal? Then I sorta agree.

Edit #2: Did you edit the title to have the other genres? Am I going fuckin crazy?

*paging Lighthouse*

lol

While I do agree that it's definately being overplayed, it hasn't been excessive enough to annoy me. I find that this is the case with a lot of the locals... Too many Toronto deejays have become too cookie cutter. There's a huge difference in quality when actual techno deejays come and play here though (We're lucky to get this much international techno talent! Prior years have been lacking.) Gregor Tresher is a great example of this. To avoid getting sick of it, I've been filtering through my list of Summer parties so that I ensure I get variety. They're there...you just have to look harder.

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Not enough REAL (hard) techno AFAIC. Not much at all.

Now there's lots being called techno... when its tech-house or minimal.

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Originally posted by The Highroller *I will call the current popular sound in Toronto "techno" for ease of discussion on this board. One of my actual pet peeves recently is the new buzz word for this popular sound being "techno" instead of "minimal". Most times, tracks are incorrectly called either one of these genres, when really what is usually being described is tech house.

THANK YOU for making the distinction and straightening out that its indeed these two genres that there's "too much" of (well, that's what im reading into your stmt... im curious if you actually feel there too much techno -- proper techno, hard techno!)

in my opinion things like this always happen. before this it was the electro house fad. something gets popular and everyone plays it. just wait it out and something else will be the new fad. im just glad that i am very eclectic these days and try to find whatever i like out of any genre

I love techno and I remember saying years ago that techno would be the next big thing in Toronto....however I agree that its being overdone....its seems almost all DJs are incorporating more and more techno in their sets.

Makes me wonder if the DJs are just playing it because its the in thing to do or if they actually enjoy it.

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Originally posted by The Highroller *I will call the current popular sound in Toronto "techno" for ease of discussion on this board. One of my actual pet peeves recently is the new buzz word for this popular sound being "techno" instead of "minimal". Most times, tracks are incorrectly called either one of these genres, when really what is usually being described is tech house.

150 million times agreed...

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Originally posted by The Highroller However, I think the genre is being bastardized to the point where I'm getting sick of hearing it. It seems everyone and their brother is the latest techno wizard, with the "sickest techno tracks" that no one else has.

HAHAHAHAH SO TRUE

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Originally posted by The Highroller Techno is a great genre, but it is very austere, dark, and takes itself way too seriously some times.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! amazingly said

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Makes me wonder if the DJs are just playing it because its the in thing to do or if they actually enjoy it.

Because its easy...

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Originally posted by electro funk im just glad that i am very eclectic

lol wtf

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Originally posted by VDub Because its easy...

To be honest, it's at a point now where I don't even like most of what is called "techno" or "minimal" anymore unless it's really creative or cutting edge, or if the DJ plays proper techno and is amazing technically (ie Richie Hawtin or Jeff Mills). It's just waaaaaay too played out these days.

It seems all you need these days is distorted bass and 2 bottles clinking together to be the next cool guy who plays tech/minimal/techno/tech house.

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Originally posted by The Highroller To be honest, it's at a point now where I don't even like most of what is called "techno" or "minimal" anymore unless it's really creative or cutting edge, or if the DJ plays proper techno and is amazing technically (ie Richie Hawtin or Jeff Mills). It's just waaaaaay too played out these days. It seems all you need these days is distorted bass and 2 bottles clinking together to be the next cool guy who plays tech/minimal/techno/tech house.

The ONLY time minimal sounds good is when you play it over top of at least 2 other minimal tracks at the same time while keeping the bpm's above 130...

Unfortunately there aren't too many DJ's skilled enough to maintain that on decks...

Or you could do it on a comp but then you cease to be a DJ...

Being in Eastern Europe right now I'm just about ready to start puking techno beats. I miss my house

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Originally posted by VDub The ONLY time minimal sounds good is when you play it over top of at least 2 other minimal tracks at the same time while keeping the bpm's above 130... Unfortunately there aren't too many DJ's skilled enough to maintain that on decks... Or you could do it on a comp but then you cease to be a DJ...

I disagree. Case in point - John Gaiser or Troy Pierce. Minimal can be good, but as long as it's done in the right setting, and provided that it's actually minimal and not click house!

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Originally posted by VDub The ONLY time minimal sounds good is when you play it over top of at least 2 other minimal tracks at the same time while keeping the bpm's above 130...

This to me sounds like you do too many drugs.

(or should exclusively listen to trance)

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Originally posted by Jeff Button This to me sounds like you do too many drugs. (or should exclusively listen to trance)

Neither...

I like layers...

Simple music bores me...

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Originally posted by VDub Neither... I like layers... Simple music bores me...

Which DJ's are you speaking of who layer three minimal tracks at a ripping 130bpm's?

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Originally posted by Jeff Button Which DJ's are you speaking of who layer three minimal tracks at a ripping 130bpm's?

Addy for one...

OK he's the only one I've ever seen do it...

Which is why he's the only one I can enjoy...



And if you think 130 is ripping.......you're living in slow mo bro....

130 should be the warm-up...


lol..ok I'm exaggerating that last point but you get my point...

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Originally posted by VDub Simple music bores me...

hahahhaha, you make some pretty ignorant comments dude. If you could elaborate on how you feel minimal is simple in comparison to whatever it is that you like due to lack of layers, please do...

You like trance, we know this, You like banging techno, we know this. You hate minimal and tech house and have made comments that would suggest you feel as if the production quality and creativity of these two genres is mediocre. Why do you think this? Could you offer some sort of explanation, from a musical perspective, and not just based on your tastes, as to why you think this way?

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Originally posted by VDub And if you think 130 is ripping.......you're living in slow mo bro.... 130 should be the warm-up...

anything above 130 isn't music.

lol @ sling trying to get insight from vdub hahah

Maybe it is time to get into trance again Graham?

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Originally posted by The Highroller I've only been back in the city for a month, but it is my observation that there is an overabundance of techno* (and other sub genres) in Toronto. As you all know, I love Richie and wash his balls every chance I get

Fixed

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Originally posted by The Highroller I've only been back in the city for a month, but it is my observation that there is an overabundance of techno* (and other sub genres) in Toronto. ... The problem is that there seems to be a bit of a lack of quality parties featuring DJs who play other genres.

While I agree with you that there does seem to be a strong focus on techno (or what ever you want to call it) in Toronto I do think you have missed some good parties since you've been back.

Heather was here just before I got back from Berlin (about a 3 weeks ago). Jesse Rose (who we saw at Berghain) was here as well and he crossed all genres. There is also the cruise on labour day weekend which looks interesting as well.

I need my Farina, Heather or Carter fix since I've missed them the last few times they have been here since I was travelling. Derrick Carter is in Montreal labour day weekend (someone bring him back).

I love it, but that's mostly because I don't go out very often and when I do, there's someone I wouldn't mind hearing playing every weekend.

I find a lot of people who complain or comment about over abundance of certain sounds in Toronto are the ones who go out the most. That's like going to western and then complaining that too many girls are wearing uggs. There are trends in music like there are in fashion, c'est la vie (as they say in FRANCE Graham )

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