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Another 'Territory Restriction" rant...

It makes me wonder why the industry moans about so much piracy when it prevents people from buying music.

I wanted to buy a track, but I couldn't so I 'downloaded by other means' but I will still buy it when I'm allowed to!

Is this wrong?

The whole TR thing seems absolutely ludicrous. Is it the case that artists distrubite their music across a multitude of labels? If so, why? It just makes no sense to me.

Physical releases

Re: Another 'Territory Restriction" rant...

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ It makes me wonder why the industry moans about so much piracy when it prevents people from buying music. I wanted to buy a track, but I couldn't so I 'downloaded by other means' but I will still buy it when I'm allowed to! Is this wrong? The whole TR thing seems absolutely ludicrous. Is it the case that artists distrubite their music across a multitude of labels? If so, why? It just makes no sense to me.

Not all labels have the means to distribute globally. If it's a digital only release, then they might be able to, but as long as physical releases are still around, the smaller labels still need to make licensing and distribution agreements with other labels to reach a global market.

In the 'modern era' of paid downloads rightfully replacing CDs, the whole idea of territory restrictions is absolutely ridiculous.

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Originally posted by THE_Chris In the 'modern era' of paid downloads rightfully replacing CDs, the whole idea of territory restrictions is absolutely ridiculous.

as long as there are physical formats also being sold it really is not.

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Originally posted by elFreak as long as there are physical formats also being sold it really is not.

Not everybody has the same means to physical releases though. I certainly don't anymore.

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Originally posted by THE_Chris In the 'modern era' of paid downloads rightfully replacing CDs, the whole idea of territory restrictions is absolutely ridiculous.

territory-based licensing deals helps the artists b/c they get the best deal possible... they can license their music to the 'best' labels in each territory. much more efficient.

Put it this way, album for �9.99 and the one track I want from in for �1.00. Yes, territory restrictions are bullshit when I have to go buy the CD.

just download whatever u cant get hold of imo. then we can bring these fucking labels down and start on blank sheets lol,j/k. this goes for alot of other things in the world tho.

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Originally posted by bas Not everybody has the same means to physical releases though. I certainly don't anymore.

Yes, but usually if beatport does not have the download for you, somewhere else will. People who buy music will buy music.

The physical format thing refers to labels and distributers. It is a business and in any business territory tends to be regulated.

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Originally posted by palm just download whatever u cant get hold of imo. then we can bring these fucking labels down and start on blank sheets. this goes for more than music in the world tho.

why would you want to bring labels that work hard to bring you music down?

you are a fucking clown.

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Originally posted by elFreak why would you want to bring labels that work hard to bring you music down? you are a fucking clown.

i just edited it to tell what i ment, but u where to fast

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what im trying to say is, when u cant get the hold of the tracks u want by buying it then the label shouldnt bother if u download it illegaly caus they wont get your money anyway. its acutaly better for them that u get it illegal that not at all, caus u might say some good words about the track on forums. and the argument about physical release doesnt aply to where i came from caus the only thing u get on CD here is 50 Cent

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Originally posted by elFreak Yes, but usually if beatport does not have the download for you, somewhere else will. People who buy music will buy music. The physical format thing refers to labels and distributers. It is a business and in any business territory tends to be regulated.

I tried Beatport for one track, it said "no" so I went to trackitdown and they removed it from my basket when I got to the checkout due to territory.

Physical releases? Why should this affect digital releases? Whoever wants the track is going to buy it anyway, and surely it's in their interest to make it available to as wide an audience as possible? Surely there are labels with internatinal clout? From what I can work out, not all labels have restrictions...?

Just use google and search the label that has distribution rights to your country. They always have links to digital (if available) downloads for sale 3rd party or not.

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Originally posted by elFreak Yes, but usually if beatport does not have the download for you, somewhere else will. People who buy music will buy music. The physical format thing refers to labels and distributers. It is a business and in any business territory tends to be regulated.

I understand that, makes perfect sense to me. From a digital standpoint though I think it's a bit silly. Why would it matter where in the world your track is DOWNLOADED, that takes no "distribution" efforts on the label's part.

Because the label that distributes the physical media also distributes the mp3. They want you to buy it from them...and well they do kind of own it.

I know, like I said that makes sense physically but digitally it's silly. What difference would it make if someone downloads the track in America or in the UK?

money.

people are allowed to make it.

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Originally posted by bas I know, like I said that makes sense physically but digitally it's silly. What difference would it make if someone downloads the track in America or in the UK?

But I think what he's saying is that it does matter because who or which label gets the money from the download??

Alternatively, should it not be just split between all the labels? Or sold from the artist directly?

sometimes you can buy from the artist directly. Google is better than beatport for buying music.

So basically a physical release HAS to match the digital release in terms of distribution? They can't just do halfsies? Totally gay.

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Originally posted by elFreak money. people are allowed to make it.

Sense.

You aren't making it.

Seriously, though. Explain to me the economic incentive behind territory restriction in the digital realm, because all I can see are labels pushing impatient people to download their tracks for free rather than buying them -- whether they mean to do so or not.

If music is about being one click done or nothing, maybe this is why so many people think of it as something totally disposal. I just remember a time when if i wanted music i had to get off my ass and go get it, forget about getting stuff from europe that was fresh. Today we have it easy, why complain?

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Originally posted by elFreak If music is about being one click done or nothing, maybe this is why so many people think of it as something totally disposal.

Probably right, but that doesn't have a whole lot to do with territory restriction, more with net distribution in general.

I can agree that people these days are incredibly impatient with respect to music, and I try not to be the type to complain, but I point out things that seem illogical regardless...

well i am high and record shopping.

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