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Xone 32, 42 or DJM 700
Hi, I'm deciding on what DJ setup I want to buy and more precisely, what mixer.
I'm still in high school and just starting out but I've been mixing in ableton live in my computer. I want to move on to real DJ'ing.
Which setup would be more ideal?
2 Pioneer CDJ 400s
Xone 32/42
or
2 Pioneer CDJ 400s
Pioneer DJM 700
or
Macbook
Xone 2d
Ableton live
Have to factor in the price of course, since my parents will be paying for these things. And also the quality/durability of these setups.
I'm leaning towards the CDJs with the Xone since everyone's been saying it is better than the DJM 700. The Macbook setup seems too expensive and I might as well learn to actually beatmatch and do DJ stuff. I'm just choosing between these three so no recommendations for other mixers.
Also, what's the difference between the Xone 42 and Xone 32?
Thanks.
ive got a xone 32 i dont use anymore and a djm 800
and i gotta say xone prob has the upper hand in terms of sound quality, i prefer the eq's on a xone, but it's not a huge difference, i love the pioneer coz im able todo a bit more with it in terms of effects and having midi so i can control ableton in the mix with my cdj's
so i guess it depends on exactly what you're looking for, i've never used a djm 700 or a 42, but they both look good
if i had to pick one id say xone:32
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| Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic ive got a xone 32 i dont use anymore and a djm 800 and i gotta say xone prob has the upper hand in terms of sound quality, i prefer the eq's on a xone, but it's not a huge difference, i love the pioneer coz im able todo a bit more with it in terms of effects and having midi so i can control ableton in the mix with my cdj's so i guess it depends on exactly what you're looking for, i've never used a djm 700 or a 42, but they both look good if i had to pick one id say xone:32 |
The Xone 32 has been around for a long time. Nice sounding mixer, though I personally don't like that the gains are in the back and I don't care for studio style faders.
The Xone 42 is new this year. It's significantly more money, but it's a whole heck of a lot of mixer. I actually like the effects loop (which the 32 doesn't have) better than what is on the Xone 92.
As for the DJM-700, I think it's grossly overpriced.
If you are only going to be using two decks... $1200 is a lot for a 4 channel mixer. I would suggest you check out the Ecler line of mixers. They are right up there with A+H and Rane. I particularly like the little Nuo 2.0:
http://www.eclerdjdivision.com/prod...p=2&sub=1&id=34
It's got 2 channels plus a third aux input channel, balanced outputs, a decent send/return, and it's built and sounds great. And you can pick it up for under $450. You could throw and effects unit next to it for cheap (like the little korg kaoss pad mini, it's cute).
The CDJ-400's are quite nice. My friend has a pair and I played on them a bit. Some of the features aren't quite as well though out as I would like...
1. You can't share a USB device between two or more decks.
2. Pioneers DJS software stinks (if you choose to use it).
3. If you use the CDJ-400's with Serato's native mode (in 1.8.2) you still have to use the SL-1 for your sound output, even though the CDJ's have soundcards in them (I don't care if I have to leave the SL1 connected for copy protection, but come on, let me use the soundcard on the deck).
Other than that, the platter is nice, the effects are a little cheesy but still fun, and they are built really well. Coming from the CDJ-1000's that I own, I would be happy with them.
I wouldn't go for the Xone 2D and ableton setup. Although it's a fine bit of kit, the 2D would probably better complement another controller (for mixing) rather than being your sole MIDI mixer (doesn't have quite enough knobs for EQ and such).
how the hell do you controll ableton through the DJM800 midi capability on the CDJs????
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| Originally posted by Marcus007 how the hell do you controll ableton through the DJM800 midi capability on the CDJs???? |
Check out htfr.com:
Xone 32: 415 pounds
Xone 42: 699 pounds
Quite a bit more money.
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| Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol I won't. It's either DJM/Xone + 2 CDJs or Xone 2d + Mac laptop. @Ryan: Thanks, I'll check it out. However, I checked the A&H website and it said that the 42 is only 50 pounds more expensive than the 32? |
Xone 3D or Korg Zero 8 and a Macbook Pro. You can pick up Xone 3D's for pretty cheap now....
That's an economical choice 
The 3D sucks. Had one, sold it... Soundcard in the thing is a piece of poo. If you want something like it, get the 4D.
Korg looks like a Christmas tree.
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| Originally posted by DJ Simo Xone 3D or Korg Zero 8 and a Macbook Pro. You can pick up Xone 3D's for pretty cheap now.... |
I played a club gig where I closed then night (12:30-just after 2) in Chicago on a DJM and then proceeded to play another two hours at afters on a Xone 42 (first time I had ever played on one).
It was like going from a Ford Fiesta to Maserati.
I really, really liked the fact that there is an independently assignable filter on each channel of the 42, the EQ's are sound but because there are 3 instead of 4 I think the low end carried way, way less influence on the 42 than the 62/92, depending on how you like to mix that could be awesome or terrible. I didn't mind it.
In any event, highly recommend the 42. Really a nice introduction by A&H IMO.
I like my 32 for its size, excellent sound quality, solid EQ/faders/filter and it's built tough.
It's def an entry level mixer but probably one of the best ones around in that respect.
The gains on the back are no big deal, you get used to it real quick and it actually feels more natural not looking at the position of the knob.
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| Originally posted by Clovis it actually feels more natural not looking at the position of the knob. |
It's still a BIZARRE design choice.
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| Originally posted by RJT This doesn't surprise me in the least, as you nix with your eyes, not your ears. Probably much to the entry level DJ's benefit, to be honest. |
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| Originally posted by Ryan0751 It's still a BIZARRE design choice. |
LOL, I wasn't debating that... just A+H's design choice.
This past weekend I'd played out on a rotary with:
1. No eq's
2. No gains
3. No meters
And it came out pretty good 
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| Originally posted by RJT Bizarre or not, you learn to mix with your ears instead of your eyes and you're going to be a better DJ. |
I have a Xone:32 and I never understood why people see the location of the gains as a downfall of the design. It seems that anyone who has actually used a Xone:32 will tell you they don't give a rats ass. I personally like that they are out of the way, rather than taking up real estate on the faceplate.
What if you wanted to flush mount the mixer?
It might be easy to work around, but it's still odd. I've never seen it on another mixer. I don't even like controls on the front of mixers.
A+H tends to do odd things sometimes. Like the headphone jack IN THE MIDDLE of the Xone S2. Forces you to use the second one underneath the mixer, or wrap your headphone cable around the headphone cable hook they put on the thing. It's weird.
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| Originally posted by Rememberence_ I have a Xone:32 and I never understood why people see the location of the gains as a downfall of the design. It seems that anyone who has actually used a Xone:32 will tell you they don't give a rats ass. I personally like that they are out of the way, rather than taking up real estate on the faceplate. |
So I guess there really is no comparison with the Xone 42/32 to the DJM 400/700.
BTW, with CDJs, what's the advantage between 400s and 200s from your experience besides that the 400 lets you connect to external hard drives and that it has a USB port.
The platter on the 400 supports vinyl emulation and feels about 100 times better than on the 200.
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| Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol So I guess there really is no comparison with the Xone 42/32 to the DJM 400/700. BTW, with CDJs, what's the advantage between 400s and 200s from your experience besides that the 400 lets you connect to external hard drives and that it has a USB port. |
I have a 42 and I cant recommend it enough, quality mixer all round really
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| Originally posted by Clovis I like my 32 for its size, excellent sound quality, solid EQ/faders/filter and it's built tough. It's def an entry level mixer but probably one of the best ones around in that respect. The gains on the back are no big deal, you get used to it real quick and it actually feels more natural not looking at the position of the knob. |
I just asked about the prices of the mixers and the CDJs and here's what I got:
Xone 32 - 660�
Xone 62 - 950�
the Pioneer CDJ 400 is 430� each.
Are these okay prices?
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| Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol I just asked about the prices of the mixers and the CDJs and here's what I got: Xone 32 - 660� Xone 62 - 950� the Pioneer CDJ 400 is 430� each. Are these okay prices? |
Hello
There are others brands than Pioneer and Allen & Heath on the market that offers quality mixers.
Check out the new Ecler Evo 4, like all eclers great build quality and sound and it has 2 effect sections that can run at once + midi. Dont have to add that desing and layout is great My next mixer for sure.
Cheers
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=M3K8MesmD9c
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=AzEk9uM7ZsE
if you have the cash buy yourself a RANE rotary otherwise I'd go with Remembrance's advice and RJT's.
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