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Posted by Lira on Aug-08-2008 15:18:

Who's watching the opening ceremony?

I am. Unfortunately, I completely forgot about it when it started, and I've just turned the TV on.

What happened before the athletes came in? Any protesters been arrested yet?


Posted by TigerClaw on Aug-08-2008 15:40:

Re: Who's watching the opening ceremony?

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I am. Unfortunately, I completely forgot about it when it started, and I've just turned the TV on.

What happened before the athletes came in? Any protesters been arrested yet?

You can watch it here, Though its in Spanish.
http://www.justin.tv/anfoctv2


Posted by Lira on Aug-08-2008 15:48:

Re: Re: Who's watching the opening ceremony?

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
You can watch it here, Though its in Spanish.
http://www.justin.tv/anfoctv2

No probs... I'm watching it in a very similar language


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-08-2008 15:48:

I refuse watch any part of the olympics as its the biggest crock of shit there is....it has nothing to do with the athletes anymore....its all about $$$$$$$.

The only reason its in China is so they can sell Coca Cola to Billions of People.


Posted by elFreak on Aug-08-2008 15:51:

that's nice.


Posted by TigerClaw on Aug-08-2008 15:57:

Here comes the torch.


Posted by Meat187 on Aug-08-2008 16:01:

It's boring without Tiesto.


Posted by Lira on Aug-08-2008 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I refuse watch any part of the olympics as its the biggest crock of shit there is....it has nothing to do with the athletes anymore....its all about $$$$$$$.

The only reason its in China is so they can sell Coca Cola to Billions of People.

There are moments we shouldn't think about politics, and the next few minutes are among them.

Besides, there's nothing wrong with money.


Posted by Orbital32 on Aug-08-2008 16:17:

Is Tiesto on stage yet?


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-08-2008 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
There are moments we shouldn't think about politics, and the next few minutes are among them.

Besides, there's nothing wrong with money.


you are right...there is nothing wrong with money but the olympics is no longer about the athletes.....tens of millions of dollars is spent just to get the olympics and that money could be used for much better things....especially in China.

If the IOC really cared about keeping the Olympics about the athletes and keeping the politics out of it, they would set up a permanent site in Greece and have the olympics there every 4 years.

I guarantee this olympics will have the most positive drug tests and not a single positive test for China. The IOC doesn't really care about drug testing....sure they will catch the odd weightlifter but you barely see a positive test in the track events or other high profile events....its always years later when the athlete comes out and says they were doped up.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Aug-08-2008 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
you are right...there is nothing wrong with money but the olympics is no longer about the athletes.....tens of millions of dollars is spent just to get the olympics and that money could be used for much better things....especially in China.

If the IOC really cared about keeping the Olympics about the athletes and keeping the politics out of it, they would set up a permanent site in Greece and have the olympics there every 4 years.

I guarantee this olympics will have the most positive drug tests and not a single positive test for China. The IOC doesn't really care about drug testing....sure they will catch the odd weightlifter but you barely see a positive test in the track events or other high profile events....its always years later when the athlete comes out and says they were doped up.


Well if thats your argument, I really hope you don't watch any sort of professional sports period. Pro sports is nothing but a selling machine, and not about the athletes either. Olympics is really the only more pure sports left that just isn't out to sell shoes, coca cola, or cars alone.


Posted by elFreak on Aug-08-2008 16:43:

Gay robots sold out.

they took arrrrrre jerrrrrrrbs.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Aug-08-2008 16:47:

Anyone have some other streams? I only speak American


Posted by Jackson on Aug-08-2008 16:53:

Watched it earlier, It was really cool that when Iraq came out and was announced the whole stadium cheered really loud


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-08-2008 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Well if thats your argument, I really hope you don't watch any sort of professional sports period. Pro sports is nothing but a selling machine, and not about the athletes either. Olympics is really the only more pure sports left that just isn't out to sell shoes, coca cola, or cars alone.


The difference is that pro athletes are paid for what they do....there is a need to sell products. The olympic athletes are not paid by the IOC and are not "professional" athletes. If they paid the athletes a portion of the money made on the olympics then I say advertise the crap out of them.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-08-2008 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
Watched it earlier, It was really cool that when Iraq came out and was announced the whole stadium cleared out of there


fixed


Posted by kadomony on Aug-08-2008 17:13:

China�s rain-stoppers face big Olympic test

By Mure Dickie in Beijing

Published: August 7 2008 19:35 | Last updated: August 7 2008 19:35

Of all the Chinese officials working behind the scenes to produce a flawless Olympic opening ceremony on Friday evening, few face a task as daunting as those in charge of making sure it does not rain.

Staff from China�s �weather modification� departments have deployed aircraft, artillery and rocket launchers to ward off rain before the three-hour ceremony in Beijing�s spectacular but roofless �bird�s nest� stadium.


Posted by Cloudburst on Aug-08-2008 17:17:

I did not because it was in the middle of the day and I was working. Who cares anyway.


Posted by Dr. DAS on Aug-08-2008 17:32:

I didn't watch it, and I have no plans to watch any portion of the Olympics this year.

It has nothing to do with the business of it, it's all about the site. China hosting the Olympics is a mockery to the spirit of the games. Their abhorrent human rights record, opressive regime and state-controlled media do nothing but tarnish what should be a celebration of global cooperation and sport. It seems unfair to support the games when there are so many people who can't watch it because they are hog-tied to an electrified bed frame.

If China wants to torture and kill people for no other reason than political activism, the're not funding it with my money.

Why didn't they just go out and hand it to Pyongyang and get it over with?

As unfair as it might be to the atheletes, who train their entire lives for this, I don't believe that any socially responsible nation should have fielded a team.

See you in 2012.


Posted by phyrrus on Aug-08-2008 18:32:

link to engrish stream anyone?


Posted by Lira on Aug-08-2008 18:36:

I don't understand the pessimism. This is probably the best thing that could possibly have happened to China. The communist regime cannot control all these foreigners as if they were ordinary citizens. This may well be the seed of a later democratic revolution thanks to the influx of new ideas. Besides, the Olympic Games tend to be profitable events, and they can't control the market (and the citizens) forever. Beijing is not Berlin 70 years ago.


Posted by Kinezi on Aug-08-2008 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
Watched it earlier, It was really cool that when Iraq came out and was announced the whole stadium cheered really loud


I missed it, how many Iraqies were there? you have any youtube link to that?

Here is the vedio of 2004 Iraqi Olympics Team enterance.. at Athens..

I am guessing the number of athletes this year after 4 years is reduced to half of original atleast.. As US managed to liberate most of Iraqies..


Posted by Dr. DAS on Aug-08-2008 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I don't understand the pessimism. This is probably the best thing that could possibly have happened to China. The communist regime cannot control all these foreigners as if they were ordinary citizens. This may well be the seed of a later democratic revolution thanks to the influx of new ideas. Besides, the Olympic Games tend to be profitable events, and they can't control the market (and the citizens) forever. Beijing is not Berlin 70 years ago.


The world, and the tourists, will only see what the PRC allow them to see. They have already banned open photography, you don't think they have greater ambitions than that?

They want to show the world what a modern, progressive country they are, but the shiny gloss they've rolled on Beijing is in no way a reflection of the country as a whole. Anyone care to google the 1936 Summer Olympics?


Posted by Kinezi on Aug-08-2008 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
democratic revolution


Oh please stop shoving your democracy on every corner of this planet.


Posted by Lira on Aug-08-2008 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
Oh please stop shoving your democracy on every corner of this planet.

Shoving? I didn't say we should all go there and overthrow the government. I'm talking about an influx of ideas that will be difficult to prevent, and I said that was a possibility. Don't mix the modals up: may != will.

Do you really think that these games will have no impact whatsoever? What's wrong with a possible democracy, by the way?
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. DAS
The world, and the tourists, will only see what the PRC allow them to see. They have already banned open photography, you don't think they have greater ambitions than that?

They want to show the world what a modern, progressive country they are, but the shiny gloss they've rolled on Beijing is in no way a reflection of the country as a whole. Anyone care to google the 1936 Summer Olympics?

I did google that, and like I said, Beijing is not like Nazi Berlin. Germany had been punished too harshly after WWI, and totalitarism was blooming in many European countries. The four regional powers surrounding China (India, Japan, Russia and South Korea) aren't totalitarian, and they haven't been in a war with China for quite a while.


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