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Posted by Serp on May-25-2002 14:08:

An uplifting clip!

Please check this out and give me some comments!

[download] (192kbps/1.0mb/44s)

Thanks!

Posted by Icone on May-25-2002 14:52:

hey

sounds good mate, nice melody typical fruity style synth, but it sounds nice enough for me, so i don't bother

really ferry bass almost as well, nice try

cheers!
LW

Posted by Tilo on May-25-2002 17:17:

We all love the Synth from 'Out of the blue'

The Melody is real goooood, got this Ferry touch on it....maybe it's just me...but the Synth is boring me(cause it's in alot of the Lightworks products)...but thats just my opinion..

keep it coming!

Posted by Haak on May-25-2002 23:46:

Nice melody, and the bassline is great too

Posted by Serp on May-26-2002 01:20:

yes because you cant make anything better lol

[EDIT] that didnt come out right!, what i mean is its hard to make trance synths on fruity that sound much different to that without using VST's which i dont like to use :/ [/EDIT]

Posted by S-Type on May-26-2002 06:14:

good job!!! especially like the bass synth

Posted by Robert on May-26-2002 08:54:

that background synth 'fills' is nicely

Posted by TranceMasterUk on May-26-2002 11:04:

very good
really nice melody

only bad thing, is the synth

very typical sound, like every other persons fruity sound

i dont see why people keep using these sounds!!!

anyway

if you were to use a different synth, it would be very very good

keep trying man

Posted by D_G on May-26-2002 12:00:

Hey,

Man, that melody is sssoo n0ice

And the bassline reminds meof the one in ''Walhalla''

And about the Fruity lead... who really cares about the sound of the lead, its the melody that matters really...

Posted by D_G on May-26-2002 12:01:

quote:
Originally posted by dj dave b
yes because you cant make anything better lol

[EDIT] that didnt come out right!, what i mean is its hard to make trance synths on fruity that sound much different to that without using VST's which i dont like to use :/ [/EDIT]

I agree with that... wut makes VSTi's so crap is the fact that u cant auto mate things like cut off in fruity... which means u cant make any good b-ups with em

Posted by TranceMasterUk on May-26-2002 12:31:

ummm you can edit the vst synths aswell

you can edit cutoff, etc etc

just go to the edit events
and pick what knob you want to edit!

simple as that

quote:
And about the Fruity lead... who really cares about the sound of the lead

are you saying the sounds not important

if so, then i would really have to disagree
the synth sound is very important!

Posted by D_G on May-26-2002 12:35:

Okay, well, iv loaded up my FM7 into fruity... and right clicked on the knob i want to edit the events on...but no options come up... So how do i do it??

About the lead - Yea... i mean... i phat lead that sounds really nice can be watsed by a crap melody... but any kinda ''nice'' synth sound can play a really nice melody and still sound nice... even if the synth sound isnt the best or most original ever

Posted by Icone on May-26-2002 12:55:

indeed, the synth sound IS important, but some of the fruity sounds are really pretty, especially the ones that sound like ferry... otherwise ferry's tracks would also be shit according to you trancemaster, and i believe you don't think that way
it's the melodies' structure that often makes the track great... look at ppk - ressurection, they used so simple beel-type synths for their melody, yet it's very very effective for alot of people.

well, i'm afraid i have to agree with Dan about the VST plugins like FM7 and VAZ... they both don't allow that easy to use cut off, resonance, filter, velocity (works with FM7 though!) use like the 'normal' synths that are generated with the 3xOSC... that's why i don't like to use them too much too often either.
maybe for the main lead, but if you really want to use them as fading leads, i have to make a clone channel for it, as the velocity etc in the piano roll cannot be applied.

that's why most of the time, i try to replace them with fruity synths that sound a bit like the sounds coming out of VAZ or FM7...

you have a good solution to this trancemaster?

laterz!
LW

Posted by Serp on May-26-2002 12:59:

You have both made good points and they are both correct
The quality of the sounds very much affect the overall sound of the track!
I am saving for hardware at the moment and if i was to write it using hardware i am sure it would sound a lot better! (of course)

"i dont see why people keep using these sounds!!! "

because that is the best you can get with fruity in terms of the trance sound i was looking for.. plus i don't like using VST's with fruity unless i really have to!

Posted by TranceMasterUk on May-26-2002 13:02:

ferry uses fruity now does he???

ferrys tracks dont sound like the 3xosc in fruityloops

and of course its not easy to edit the knobs in vst synths, but that gives people no right to say vst's are shit because of it

not everything is supposed to be easy
you cant expect to do everything for you
you gotta put some work in yourself

on fm7
u dont right click anything
when ur vst is opened
on the top left hand corner
there is a little icon
click it, then click the knob you want to edit
and then simply draw it in
its as easy as that

Posted by Serp on May-26-2002 13:04:

please tell me a VST that can make a better sounding trance lead than the 3xOSC whilst still retaining a sound that is close to ferry's classic trance synth

Posted by TranceMasterUk on May-26-2002 13:54:

i dunno
im more into the SHOKK, Cosmic Gate type sounds

so you will have to find that one out yourself

i have nothing against the fruity 3xosc

its just that every fruity song i hear, the leads sounds almost the same

but of course if u wanna use it, and u like it
then go for it
it doesnt matter what other people think

Posted by D_G on May-26-2002 13:58:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceMasterUk
ferry uses fruity now does he???

If u read Wim's post correctly, u will notice he didnt say that... he just said that some fruity sounds sound like those used by ferry...

Anywho, thanks for FM7 tip, never knew u could do that !

Posted by Serp on May-26-2002 14:30:

listen to this!
http://www.encyde.org/lc/go.php?user=serp&id=00010

p.s YES i do write my own synthlines!
oh.... this clip is very '99

[EDIT]it's missing the nice background strings since i haven't written them yet :P[/EDIT]

Posted by D_G on May-26-2002 15:23:

Sounding nice

Posted by Icone on May-26-2002 15:26:

ok thx trancemaster for the FM7 tips

i didn't say all of the VST plugins were shit or uneasy to work with... i like complex tracks, but they kinda mess up my cpu... nlike reason i've been told.
i wanna learn reason, but it looks oh so confusing and nothing seemed to work like i was used to. gotta spen some time on it hehe

see you later everyone
this topic is turning into a different debate actually hehe but nevertheless, it's nice to talk about.

LW

Posted by D_G on May-26-2002 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Lightworks
ok thx trancemaster for the FM7 tips

i didn't say all of the VST plugins were shit or uneasy to work with... i like complex tracks, but they kinda mess up my cpu... nlike reason i've been told.
i wanna learn reason, but it looks oh so confusing and nothing seemed to work like i was used to. gotta spen some time on it hehe

see you later everyone
this topic is turning into a different debate actually hehe but nevertheless, it's nice to talk about.

LW

Yea, i wanna learn Rreason, but right now im waiting for Reason 2.... and by the time that comes out hopefully i may understand it