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Reproducing your favorite track, but with slightly different notes

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like this is basically what a lot of people want to do when they're producing, and that many "equipment recommendation" style threads are created with this purpose in mind. Maybe I'm off base, though.

How much experimental spirit is there in today's young and aspiring electronic music producers?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles How much experimental spirit is there in today's young and aspiring electronic music producers?

As much as each person is willing to put in. Thats the sad and boring answer, simply because there are not that many young guys that do it strictly for the fun; instead more for the chance at fame.

I do it because it is what I always wanted to do. I used to go clubbing and ask my mate how to they make such beautiful sounds. I ended up a few years later trying it and loved it. When i make music hous fly by as if nothing and i have so much fun. If i did it until i die and dont get nowhere I would stuil be doing it.

Im 23

Making music has always been about making your own sound for me.

There is unfortunately too many trying to sound like Above & Beyond, and too many that succeed with that.

I think thats why the music has got quite boring, too many people trying to sound like the favourite artist(s) and therefore just churning out the same old stuff, there doesnt seem to be that much in the experimenting of sounds and such like these days.

Yeah, i agree that too many younger producers are just trying to sound like there favourite producer. I don't however think this is because fame more because they like there music.

I myself am a younger producer and i am constantly trying to sculpt my own distinct sound. All the time i will get something that sounds somewhat similar to another track and i'll just scrap the project.

I agree in both respects. I've reproduced a track - I disliked my first "original" song so much that I thought I'd learn more reproducing one I knew with some minor variations. It helped a lot - I learned a lot about sound design, recording, and structure by reproducing the track. I wouldn't do it again - it kills creativity and towards the end seemed more like a chore - but it did help accelerate the learning curve, for me anyway.

On the equipment recommendation piece, I recall being told that my Motif ES was virtually worthless in EDM. I was so convinced I almost sold it to pick up something else, something "standard" in EDM. In the end I decided not to and now that I've really learned how to work with it more deeply, it's one of my favorite things to play with now - especially since I know everyone isn't using it. I still wouldn't mind some of the "standards" when money allows, but I recognize there's pros and cons to that.

I do think it can be a good learning experience to try and recreate a track because you will learn things like sound design, mixing, eq'ing, panning and structure, but use it purely as a learning experience, and then use the skills you have developed to make something you like.

I dont know if other people find this, but I sometimes find myself falling into the trap of "hmmm, im not sure if people would like this", but I now am of the mindset that I am making music that I like and if others like it too then thats a bonus.

You can blame copycats on the charts. If there wasn't a djmag top 100 a lot less people would try to sound similar to Tiesto and A&B. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Since I have just started producing, I decided to do the recreate method just to get a better feeling for how my DAW works and what changes create what results. It's a good foundation for my knowledge base. I am almost done with it now, working on the eq and compression and then some effects. When I complete it I will then start creating my ideas and such and have a better understanding for how to do so.

If I had just started with my original idea without this lesson first it would take ten times longer and probably wouldn't be as good of a product when finished.

And fame has nothing to do with my production aspirations (as im sure it is prolly not in a lot of people). Music (especially dance) has done so much for me I feel like I owe back to the community and artists and therefore I will develop a sound that personifies me! If people like it, great! If they don't oh well! There are a lot easier things to do to become famous then being a dj/producer!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Maybe it's just me, but it seems like this is basically what a lot of people want to do when they're producing, and that many "equipment recommendation" style threads are created with this purpose in mind. Maybe I'm off base, though. How much experimental spirit is there in today's young and aspiring electronic music producers?

er [ther`re]think you find it`s there (,)never used before and [today`s] should read todays learn how to right before critticing others1! also your second sentince was not abrevated ether,[and that many]!

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Originally posted by airwalker1 er [ther`re]think you find it`s there (,)never used before and [today`s] should read todays learn how to right before critticing others1! also your second sentince was not abrevated ether,[and that many]!

No, not really. My post was grammatically correct, yours is not, and you're still a functionally illiterate putz who couldn't correct someone else's grammar if your life depended on it.

Thanks for trying, though.

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Just for shits and giggles:

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Originally posted by airwalker1 er [ther`re]think you find it`s there (,)never used before and [today`s] should read todays learn how to right before critticing others1! also your second sentince was not abrevated ether,[and that many]!

"Right" should be spelled "write."

"Critticing" should be spelled "criticizing."

"Sentince" should be spelled "sentence."

"Abrevated" should be spelled "abbreviated."

And never mind your grammar and punctuation problems. If you can't be bothered to remember the spellings of fairly common words, I really doubt you'll have the mental acuity to work out grammatical rules.

Are you dyslexic or something? Right now I'm assuming that you're just lazy or dumb, but if you have a real verbal processing disorder I'll lay off.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 er [ther`re]think you find it`s there (,)never used before and [today`s] should read todays learn how to right before critticing others1! also your second sentince was not abrevated ether,[and that many]!

They're is short for they are. Correct.

Today's shows a form of possession (today's youth, not some other time). Correct.

Dude, if you're (that is correct, short for you are) going to check people on grammar, you should have a fucking clue.

For the record, there are very few, if any, appropriate uses of the word todays, unless you can find a correct use of a sentence that involves more than one today. "Man, I'm really sick of all the todays I've had this week."

In addition to what Jive pointed out, you also have inappropriate use of brackets and sentences are only abbreviated if you are trying to shorten them (generally at the request of an English teacher for a paper, which I don't believe has been a problem of yours).

Why the hell am I bothering... I'm going back to reading about music and any thread this cretin is not part of.

Airwalker just some advice, friendly advice as well. I only just joined and it takes a while to settle down and everyone to find out what your about etc. I came on asking questions that have already been answered, flareing off when someone cracks a joke and generally flooding the forum with junk. If you see my first posts people really ripped me to bits. Reacting and trying to defend is silly as it will undoubtably end in people picking apart your posts. Things are much nicer here if you just blend in contribute if you can, accept the humour (which when its not directed at you is hilarious lol) and just consider your posts before submitting. I have deleted several because I realised its already been answered or that not worth pursueing etc. Chill out man I can see all you wanna do is hammer out tracks and talk trance so just do that!

The alternative is not worth thinking about LOL

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Originally posted by Sonic_c Airwalker just some advice, friendly advice as well. I only just joined and it takes a while to settle down and everyone to find out what your about etc. I came on asking questions that have already been answered, flareing off when someone cracks a joke and generally flooding the forum with junk. If you see my first posts people really ripped me to bits. Reacting and trying to defend is silly as it will undoubtably end in people picking apart your posts. Things are much nicer here if you just blend in contribute if you can, accept the humour (which when its not directed at you is hilarious lol) and just consider your posts before submitting. I have deleted several because I realised its already been answered or that not worth pursueing etc. Chill out man I can see all you wanna do is hammer out tracks and talk trance so just do that! The alternative is not worth thinking about LOL

as my friend's will all say "hes as laid back and as funny as they come" true staement i'll admit but being ripped into because i havint learnt the terms and fourm lingo is to me un- presdentid. so i surpose at the moment im as you might say tence.ive seen countless spelling misstakes and gramma misshaps by other fellow addicts and yet the need to b-little me was still founded.surly the whole reason as people's on this website is to be apart off something, make connections and make your self known. so there it is ive had my moan and your point was duely noted and ile let my tunes do the talking.

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell They're is short for they are. Correct. Today's shows a form of possession (today's youth, not some other time). Correct. Dude, if you're (that is correct, short for you are) going to check people on grammar, you should have a fucking clue. For the record, there are very few, if any, appropriate uses of the word todays, unless you can find a correct use of a sentence that involves more than one today. "Man, I'm really sick of all the todays I've had this week." In addition to what Jive pointed out, you also have inappropriate use of brackets and sentences are only abbreviated if you are trying to shorten them (generally at the request of an English teacher for a paper, which I don't believe has been a problem of yours). Why the hell am I bothering... I'm going back to reading about music and any thread this cretin is not part of.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 ive seen countless spelling misstakes and gramma misshaps by other fellow addicts and yet the need to b-little me was still founded.

Few people are bothered much by an occasional mistake, but practically every post you make is filled with errors. That's when it starts to really annoy people.

Mr. Jive why inspire creativity by invoking a conformist attitude yourself?

Cr8tiviTee mAniFestz !N ynam 4ms..

As far as the music thing, I think people need a template to structure their evolvement on before they can reach a higher ground to explore new horizons.

Plus not being creative is just as creative as being creative. If you're doing *anything, essentially your creating *something.

The path you take to the final creation doesn't matter, once it is created you have already been creative.
I can boil an egg in water and you can create one by pissing on an egg for 40 years, but in reality you really weren't anymore creative then me if we're aiming to create the same thing, an egg or music.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Mr. Jive why inspire creativity by invoking a conformist attitude yourself? Cr8tiviTee mAniFestz !N ynam 4ms.. As far as the music thing, I think people need a template to structure their evolvement on before they can reach a higher ground to explore new horizons. Plus not being creative is just as creative as being creative. If you're doing *anything, essentially your creating *something. The path you take to the final creation doesn't matter, once it is created you have already been creative. I can boil an egg in water and you can create one by pissing on an egg for 40 years, but in reality you really weren't anymore creative then me if we're aiming to create the same thing, an egg or music.

it's all about the prosess of making music that counts because in the end you havent don anything that wasent created before. it's what you do with it that counts otherwise why bother unless you want to bang out pre-made manufacterd shit. i dont!

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Originally posted by airwalker1 it's all about the prosess of making music that counts because in the end you havent don anything that wasent created before. it's what you do with it that counts otherwise why bother unless you want to bang out pre-made manufacterd shit. i dont!

Yeh I see what you're saying.
But in a way I see us as always kind of being in an era of music. Like classical music, or midevil music, now we're in modern music.

And we can be creative, make new sounds or something creative. But put it this way. I see Bennassi's "Satisfaction" track as something REAL creative, or just a track that sticks out as different from most.

At the same time it has a lot of common sounds and elements of everyday electronic music. So it gets confusing. Truely creative people to me also happen to be musical genious's (Beethoven for instance) someone who can literally start a new musical era.
Now thats fucking creative.
Everyone else is sorta of just living in their era.

So yeh I think creativity is important, but I also think you need to titrate it with what the age wants or expects.
Unless you happen to be a virtuoso, but I just don't esteem myself to that extent.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Yeh I see what you're saying. But in a way I see us as always kind of being in an era of music. Like classical music, or midevil music, now we're in modern music. And we can be creative, make new sounds or something creative. But put it this way. I see Bennassi's "Satisfaction" track as something REAL creative, or just a track that sticks out as different from most. At the same time it has a lot of common sounds and elements of everyday electronic music. So it gets confusing. Truely creative people to me also happen to be musical genious's (Beethoven for instance) someone who can literally start a new musical era. Now thats fucking creative. Everyone else is sorta of just living in their era. So yeh I think creativity is important, but I also think you need to titrate it with what the age wants or expects. Unless you happen to be a virtuoso, but I just don't esteem myself to that extent.

dame this fuckin keeyboord every time i right something it puts the rong letter's. Any way at last ive found an equal beathoven was a geuines way ahead off his time considering he was deaf as a post.And the reason why he was so great was because he put a part off himself into the songs he rote.He went through a lot of shit ,troubeld you might say witch refelted in his work.he had very intresting formates.extremely dieverse shame he wasnt apprechated in his own time.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 as my friend's will all say "hes as laid back and as funny as they come" true staement i'll admit but being ripped into because i havint learnt the terms and fourm lingo is to me un- presdentid. so i surpose at the moment im as you might say tence.ive seen countless spelling misstakes and gramma misshaps by other fellow addicts and yet the need to b-little me was still founded.surly the whole reason as people's on this website is to be apart off something, make connections and make your self known. so there it is ive had my moan and your point was duely noted and ile let my tunes do the talking.

Obv a level!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Just for shits and giggles: "Right" should be spelled "write." "Critticing" should be spelled "criticizing." "Sentince" should be spelled "sentence." "Abrevated" should be spelled "abbreviated."

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Originally posted by Owsey2008

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Sorry, but it is quite funny

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