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Developing a track

How do you guys develop a song.

Now this is a serious question. I usually just sit down trying things until something fits. Basically I have a great bassline and some stabs that go ok even though they don�t develop enough to keep me interested longer than 4 bars. The stabs almost sound like they are about to go somewhere and then just loop back. Not for lack of trying I cant decide if they should move up or down. The track will be in D minor and I am trying all the inversions and notes etc.

I have been listening to other peoples music in that style Riley and Durrant make some like it they just drop it to a moody bit some chords etc then build back up to beat and bassline for what seems like ages but they keep me entertained. I have a great bass which moves so much its almost the lead in fact it definitely drives the track.

Has anyone else made half a song and cant find what goes in to finish the musical elements?

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Originally posted by Sonic_c How do you guys develop a song. Now this is a serious question. I usually just sit down trying things until something fits. Basically I have a great bassline and some stabs that go ok even though they don�t develop enough to keep me interested longer than 4 bars. The stabs almost sound like they are about to go somewhere and then just loop back. Not for lack of trying I cant decide if they should move up or down. The track will be in D minor and I am trying all the inversions and notes etc. I have been listening to other peoples music in that style Riley and Durrant make some like it they just drop it to a moody bit some chords etc then build back up to beat and bassline for what seems like ages but they keep me entertained. I have a great bass which moves so much its almost the lead in fact it definitely drives the track. Has anyone else made half a song and cant find what goes in to finish the musical elements?

i currently have many projects in that state, and i guess alot of others will to , and youll probably find that itll take weeks of faffing around then itll all come together in an afternoon
sods law!

normally, if i dont get it right at the beginning, i probably wont finish it since ive already lost the inspiration i initially had.

i have, as of right now, 1390 projects on my computer, most of which are unfinished.. Some are just a cool drum beat, but many of them are nearly finished tracks, or ive made everything up to the takeoff, then lost interest and started something else.. LOL

I keep making half projects I wanna finish a damn song LOL

I have created a lot of projects that never get finished. I haven't finished anything in over a year. If I lose the inspiration for a track, I usually just drop it.

I try to create a sound or rhythm that I really, really like.

That often inspires me to want to build a track around it.

You should finish everything you start, even if its a little crappy.

If you then at a later point, when your ears and skills has improved, you might be able to go back on that track and improve the missing bits.

Most seem to be in the same boat or worse LOL well I suppose rome wasn't built in a day eh. Ill plug away at it.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c How do you guys develop a song. Now this is a serious question. I usually just sit down trying things until something fits. Basically I have a great bassline and some stabs that go ok even though they don�t develop enough to keep me interested longer than 4 bars. The stabs almost sound like they are about to go somewhere and then just loop back. Not for lack of trying I cant decide if they should move up or down. The track will be in D minor and I am trying all the inversions and notes etc. I have been listening to other peoples music in that style Riley and Durrant make some like it they just drop it to a moody bit some chords etc then build back up to beat and bassline for what seems like ages but they keep me entertained. I have a great bass which moves so much its almost the lead in fact it definitely drives the track. Has anyone else made half a song and cant find what goes in to finish the musical elements?

yep indeed mateiosy and all i do at this point is use the build as a way of covering your tracks.ie once your happey with the components so far treat the rest as a 2nd eppersode. or part 2 of your track i mean it`s all about creativeity my friend.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I try to create a sound or rhythm that I really, really like. That often inspires me to want to build a track around it.

me to but i still belive its all to do with finding the flow,all trackes are diffrent. im very diverse so i use all typs off format`s ive even made my shit from on fuckin sample or noise fuckin love wird sounds

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Originally posted by Subtle You should finish everything you start, even if its a little crappy. If you then at a later point, when your ears and skills has improved, you might be able to go back on that track and improve the missing bits.

im currently listening to your shit so far so good

Re: Developing a track

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Originally posted by Sonic_c How do you guys develop a song. Now this is a serious question. I usually just sit down trying things until something fits. Basically I have a great bassline and some stabs that go ok even though they don�t develop enough to keep me interested longer than 4 bars. The stabs almost sound like they are about to go somewhere and then just loop back. Not for lack of trying I cant decide if they should move up or down. The track will be in D minor and I am trying all the inversions and notes etc. I have been listening to other peoples music in that style Riley and Durrant make some like it they just drop it to a moody bit some chords etc then build back up to beat and bassline for what seems like ages but they keep me entertained. I have a great bass which moves so much its almost the lead in fact it definitely drives the track. Has anyone else made half a song and cant find what goes in to finish the musical elements?

Yeh there is a very *delicate balance you must maintain because as I know a lot of people have tons of unfinished tracks (myself included) you also NEED to just finish a track.

Even if it means a sacrifice to the tracks overall quality, you are forcing yourself to LEARN to find solutions that you couldn't find before.
Now what I make myself do is go back to earlier tracks (from like a year or 2 ago) and revamp the entire track just to finish them. Delete the orginal mix, keep the melodies, add new synths, and learn to mix them in a way that works.

So yeh many people do it, but also understand the equal and opposite importance of not taking the easy way out. Thats why people do it "ok this was sounding ok for an hour but now I just don't know where I'm going with it".

Shut the track down and come back the next day, ignore any ideas you had before and go in with an open mind. Then try again. Finish the track even if it sounds like crap, you're still forcing creativity into the mix. Starting a new track imo doesn't require as much creativity as finishing one.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Yeh there is a very *delicate balance you must maintain because as I know a lot of people have tons of unfinished tracks (myself included) you also NEED to just finish a track. Even if it means a sacrifice to the tracks overall quality, you are forcing yourself to LEARN to find solutions that you couldn't find before. Now what I make myself do is go back to earlier tracks (from like a year or 2 ago) and revamp the entire track just to finish them. Delete the orginal mix, keep the melodies, add new synths, and learn to mix them in a way that works. So yeh many people do it, but also understand the equal and opposite importance of not taking the easy way out. Thats why people do it "ok this was sounding ok for an hour but now I just don't know where I'm going with it". Shut the track down and come back the next day, ignore any ideas you had before and go in with an open mind. Then try again. Finish the track even if it sounds like crap, you're still forcing creativity into the mix. Starting a new track imo doesn't require as much creativity as finishing one.

Good reply and I did it and the track that had the mega bassline ended up having a different bassline altoghether and sounds way better. TY

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