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Should Bass...??

I've been producing trance now for a long time, but I've always been curious. You other producers, do you add stereo separation to your basslines, or do you not?

only at frequencies higher then, say, 100hz... something like that... the human ears are having a really difficult time telling where a bass sound is coming from, so i kinda see no point of using stereo on that, as you would notice that much...

No never, always keep it as centered as possible.

400hz & below!!

Pfft, all my basses are at 90 000 Khz. Pussies.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Pfft, all my basses are at 90 000 Khz. Pussies.

always compensating for something else aren't ya kit : P

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox No never, always keep it as centered as possible.

in one thread your saying there are no rules and here you state a rule... i don't follow...

why don't you just do what you think sounds good?

If you want a bass stereo then separate it.... if you want it mono then center the shit out of it.

Try it, then go try and get it cut to vinyl....
Needle jumps all over the place with wide stereo basslines.

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Originally posted by Freak Try it, then go try and get it cut to vinyl.... Needle jumps all over the place with wide stereo basslines.

prior to cutting a vinyl there is a process of mastering, if its for vinyl all sub bass is turned mono... and if you made a wide stereo bass it will probably have some mids, and those will be panned and still be wide, and as i said before the human ear barely notices the direction of bass sounds... so that argument is irrelevent IMO...

Re: Should Bass...??

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Originally posted by Xylence I've been producing trance now for a long time, but I've always been curious. You other producers, do you add stereo separation to your basslines, or do you not?

I'd say to trust your ears as to when it comes to adding stuff into your mix. I don't think there's any right or wrong for basslines.

Some stereo on low-mid freqs can fatten up your bassline (as I do sometimes). For really low frequencies however I'm not sure though if stereo will have any benefit so I tend to keep that side unaltered.

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Originally posted by Vortex_SA prior to cutting a vinyl there is a process of mastering, if its for vinyl all sub bass is turned mono... and if you made a wide stereo bass it will probably have some mids, and those will be panned and still be wide, and as i said before the human ear barely notices the direction of bass sounds... so that argument is irrelevent IMO...

Which was exactly my point - basically, it is pretty pointless as it will either be fixed by the mastering engineer , or be played on a mono club system anyway...

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Originally posted by kitphillips Pfft, all my basses are at 90 000 Khz. Pussies.

the timing

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Originally posted by Freak Which was exactly my point - basically, it is pretty pointless as it will either be fixed by the mastering engineer , or be played on a mono club system anyway...

Some clubs are stereo, from what I know not many though. Another problem that might arise with (too) wide basslines is phase cancellation. Then you're in real trouble .

OtiumFX BassLane VST - freeware and good tool

Basslane is a free audio effect for VST compatible hosts. It's a simple, yet very handy little utility to control the stereo field of lower frequencies in your audio material. Allows you to define the processed frequency range while using several monitoring options, and to tweak how much you want it squeezed.

http://www.otiumfx.com/basslane.php

Tried it, didn't like it myself. And I have no need for it . I can imagine it being a neat and handy tool for many people though.

In addition to my prior comment: Since a lot of tracks aren't even released on vinyl anymore stereo bass should not be a problem as long as you make sure that phase cancellation doesn't occur. This is a problem for mono club sound systems and would make the bass disappear.

all that you said is right.
The Thrillseekers uses this as he said.

btw i luv your tracks man

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Originally posted by meDina why don't you just do what you think sounds good? If you want a bass stereo then separate it.... if you want it mono then center the shit out of it.

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My thoughts exactly.

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Originally posted by Dirtyloop all that you said is right. The Thrillseekers uses this as he said. btw i luv your tracks man

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