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Music producers fourm Letter of suggestion
Hey there peeps ,
Ive been on this site since december and i joined because i had started to learn production and personally have come a very long way to now and naturally you want to show you work of to people who know about the track/genre , in which the Tranceaddict music producers forum is a natural choice.
When you get here and over the past few months i feel the place is fast becoming a wet lettuce .
I started a thread in the music discussion forum a while back
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=480280
The reactions people gave were interesting but the usual people who post in the MPF eg mr.mystery, mrjivebojingles and theran to name a few (there are many others too
)seem to be all for the fourm but a huge wad find it weird , socially and ethically wrong to step foot in here!
As an amature producer i think its time that something could be done to liven this place up and stop the torrent of no-reply threads and people who think its uncool to listen to amature and nOOb signed producers.
My suggestions are as follows:-
1.I think the genre brackets should be compulsory at the End of the thread title eg Artist-song [genre](So people can target what they like)?
2.ALL new and upcoming release info shifted to the CD review New/upcoming release disscussion board?.
3.Record label advertising section? For labels who want demos and producers to look for labels to send there hopefully good demos too?
4.Constuctive ideas on better ways of letting people hear the music for example , how people can stop losing feedback due to cats and 45 second password things!
5.Finally , some sort of push from everyone to get people to review and comment on your productions .
Im not suggesting a complete redesign of the place , but more of a rethink and tidy up to make it easier for the poor cherubbs of the main forums to come look
Please reply any thoughts you have.
(p.s if anything is rubbish , then comment to the persons music you are referring too , NOT this thread)
cheers
Genre tags would be useful, but I think the real reason that most people don't visit is that a large number of the tracks posted here tend to be in a similar "big room epic trance" style, and a lot of people who post in Music Discussion really can't stand that style anymore. It's not my style either, but I'm still happy to give helpful criticism on tracks and judge them relative to other tracks in the same genre, even if I don't really listen to that genre casually myself anymore.
I think if there were more examples of other genres to be found in here -- more chillout, acid house, deep house, ambient, minimal techno, early-90's style trance, experimental stuff like Autechre or Aphex Twin or BT, etc. -- then a lot more people would visit.
As it is, they tend to think that the place is filled with "ASOT wannabes," even if that isn't strictly true and there is more diversity than they imagine.
I think one small but useful way of increasing responses would be to all contribute a bit for some hosting. Maybe 25-50$ a month divided by whoever's interested. If there are a 100 people willing to contribute, we would have to pay 0.50$ a month. Then, add something like the 'Linkify' add on in Firefox, where you can play links directly in the browser without any downloads, or interruptions from the page you are browsing.
Get into a thread, listen to the track sample then and there without any problems, give opinion, leave.
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| Originally posted by smakmagik I think one small but useful way of increasing responses would be to all contribute a bit for some hosting. Maybe 25-50$ a month divided by whoever's interested. If there are a 100 people willing to contribute, we would have to pay 0.50$ a month. Then, add something like the 'Linkify' add on in Firefox, where you can play links directly in the browser without any downloads, or interruptions from the page you are browsing. Get into a thread, listen to the track sample then and there without any problems, give opinion, leave. |
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| Originally posted by smakmagik I think one small but useful way of increasing responses would be to all contribute a bit for some hosting. Maybe 25-50$ a month divided by whoever's interested. If there are a 100 people willing to contribute, we would have to pay 0.50$ a month. Then, add something like the 'Linkify' add on in Firefox, where you can play links directly in the browser without any downloads, or interruptions from the page you are browsing. Get into a thread, listen to the track sample then and there without any problems, give opinion, leave. |
I like the whole idea of moving release advertisements to the CD/Track Review section. Granted, if someone on a label is genuinely looking for feedback they should be able to post it here.
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| Originally posted by davemolina I like the whole idea of moving release advertisements to the CD/Track Review section. Granted, if someone on a label is genuinely looking for feedback they should be able to post it here. |
Music producers promotion if a artist wants to promote his new release or a Labelwants to i have no problem with that. That is what this forum is for. It's not the producers feedback forum
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| Originally posted by pwnage1 Music producers promotion if a artist wants to promote his new release or a Labelwants to i have no problem with that. That is what this forum is for. It's not the producers feedback forum |
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| Originally posted by Vortex_SA huh?? so where do you need to put your stuff to be reviewed if not here? |
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| Originally posted by pwnage1 Putting you stuff here for review is fine. I am just saying not allowing labels and artists to promote themselves as was proposed in this thread is ridiculous. I am all for a feedback forum exclusively for reviewing productions. |
First of all, I don't think it really matters if your track has been released or that you are a bedroom producer (hate the term amateur producer). We are all here to learn something from eachother, whether your a pro or not.
However, I think that if a track has already been released, you have to mention that in the post title. For instance, if I'd put up 'Contact' for review, it should be:
[RLS][Trance/uplifting]Theran - Contact (Original mix)
Because, if I know your a bedroom producer, I'll be a little gentle on my feedback, if you are a pro, I know that you don't appreciate being gentle and just want know what we think.
All in favour say 'aye'. 
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| Originally posted by Theran First of all, I don't think it really matters if your track has been released or that you are a bedroom producer (hate the term amateur producer). We are all here to learn something from eachother, whether your a pro or not. However, I think that if a track has already been released, you have to mention that in the post title. For instance, if I'd put up 'Contact' for review, it should be: [RLS][Trance/uplifting]Theran - Contact (Original mix) Because, if I know your a bedroom producer, I'll be a little gentle on my feedback, if you are a pro, I know that you don't appreciate being gentle and just want know what we think. All in favour say 'aye'. |
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| Originally posted by Vortex_SA i think you should treat everyone the same really, no point of giving a "thumbs up" to something you don't believe in IMO... |
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| Originally posted by Theran It's not about giving thumbs up to something that isn't worth it. But if you give feedback to 'bedrooms' you'll maybe mind the vocabulary as they are not deep into that, and there's no point in just saying the track sucks. It's better to use a build-up in your critisism, and don't automaticly say that it's the newest 'Tune of the week'. |
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| Originally posted by Vortex_SA true, i would never say the track sucks... cos a lot of whats going out today sucks IMO... and also cos saying a track sucks won't help anyone... so i think like you in a way, but i dont think a producer should state their producer "stats" or whatever, mainly because it will affect feedbacks and will create some sort of "discrimination" toward one of the sides... |
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| Originally posted by Theran I can see your point here, and I think your right too. But I think it useful to know when applying producing terminology, so that you don't have to explain everything you just told . |
Lol i followed you to this thread theran and thanks for being gentle lol I agree with you.
Amatures need constructive critism you must have been there. Your learning the ropes you havent slept all night working on something and you think thats it I cracked it I know how to make a good track. Then someone comes on and goes i think its shit!
At leat you gave me some feeds on where i could have gone or tips for next time you know. Which i appreciated and will help me next time. Its really difficult to just learn from textbooks and practice sometimes. you can be practising it wrong which gets you nowhere
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| Originally posted by Sonic_c Lol i followed you to this thread theran and thanks for being gentle lol I agree with you. Amatures need constructive critism you must have been there. Your learning the ropes you havent slept all night working on something and you think thats it I cracked it I know how to make a good track. Then someone comes on and goes i think its shit! At leat you gave me some feeds on where i could have gone or tips for next time you know. Which i appreciated and will help me next time. Its really difficult to just learn from textbooks and practice sometimes. you can be practising it wrong which gets you nowhere |
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| Originally posted by Vortex_SA there is no wrong prctising mate, if you something in a different way well when you'll perfect it it will be much more awesome then something standard you're perfecting... look a jimi hendrix, a classy example, he plays a right handed guitar on the left hand, and he has made awesome things with it... so maybe if you use, i dunno, more ratio instead of threshold on the compressors you could make a more unique and sweet sound... stuff like that |
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| Originally posted by Sonic_c Yeah you could be on to something there. When people listen to my music they usually say yeah its ok, sounds a bit old, or sounds a bit like this track I heard etc. Maybe thats because I am trying to follow the rules and not seeing what happens when you go your own way. I always compress things in a similar way and I always write my melodies using the same method. Thansk mate i'll try and break the pattern tonight! |
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| Originally posted by Vortex_SA the "your tracks sound old school" feedback i get all the time, i don't care thats how i like them, also take into considiration that different people have different prespective to old and new... |
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| Originally posted by Vortex_SA well, you can always use the "google it" phrase if you are too lazy at that moment |
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| Originally posted by Sonic_c At leat you gave me some feeds on where i could have gone or tips for next time you know. Which i appreciated and will help me next time. |
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| Originally posted by Vortex_SA the "your tracks sound old school" feedback i get all the time, i don't care thats how i like them, also take into considiration that different people have different prespective to old and new... |
Ok so i say its what I want to make and it is, but I wouldnt exactly say no to a record deal either LOL so your feedback was spot on.
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| Originally posted by Theran That's okay, but I think you should mention that in your begin post. I always think that people here are aiming to get something released, and old school stuff just isn't up for that, see I give feedback to that. If you are really aiming @ oldschool stuff (which I like to), than I'll adapt my feedback to that. |
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