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messed up first post, do you copy the pro`s or do your own work from scrach?

ok i had to re wright this cos i fucked up the first post.so the point i was making is this,does every body spend the time making all there own sounds from scrach.rather then reling on there efect`s.ie vst`s and all the shit that makes your component`s sound pre selected.because the professhionals use all the latist and up to speed software,rather then making there own sounds.listen to any of lange`s shit and you see that he spends the time doing the above.and mike koolgan,his legndry push was all made by his own component`s and what a track that was.hope this makes more sence now as a fill it`s of importance.

I seriously don't understand this...

yes i do not use efects, i make my own components for my tracks. like delay, only fake people use that. instead i have three synths, 1 in the center, 1 to the right and 1 to the left, the center synth plays the melody once then i draw all the notes again only 2 notes later on the right synth with a little lower volume, and then the left synth playing 1 note later than that with even lower volume. maybe sometimes also the delayd synths has some more filtering and eqing to sound more away. thats beacuse im the real shit and i do not cheat! its alot of work tho but its worth it when i know ive done it the only real way. how old are u and do u realy come from UK? im guessing liverpool in that case (from your language, not your question, the question is pretty good).

Re: do you make your own components for your tracks?

The question isn't really clear...

Almost nobody programs their own delay and reverb algorithms, if that's what you mean.

Although I've been pondering trying to make some interesting delay effects using Max/MSP once I get up to speed in it.

I think by effects he means sample cd uplifters and shit.

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Originally posted by palm yes i do not use efects, i make my own components for my tracks. like delay, only fake people use that. instead i have three synths, 1 in the center, 1 to the right and 1 to the left, the center synth plays the melody once then i draw all the notes again only 2 notes later on the right synth with a little lower volume, and then the left synth playing 1 note later than that with even lower volume. maybe sometimes also the delayd synths has some more filtering and eqing to sound more away. thats beacuse im the real shit and i do not cheat! its alot of work tho but its worth it when i know ive done it the only real way. how old are u and do u realy come from UK? im guessing liverpool in that case (from your language, not your question, the question is pretty good).

YES IM INDEED FROM THE UK MY FRIEND FROM THE GOOD OLD SOUTH.AND YES IT`S DAM HARD WORK MAKEING YOUR TRACKES SOUND GOOD WITH OUT OVER EFECTING THINGS. MY METHOD IS THIS FIND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE,WELL SHIT THE NOT SO GOOD STUFF UNTILL I IT COMES TO THE GOOD PARTS.AND THE WORLD`S YOUR OISTER MATY.

Re: Re: do you make your own components for your tracks?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The question isn't really clear... Almost nobody programs their own delay and reverb algorithms, if that's what you mean. Although I've been pondering trying to make some interesting delay effects using Max/MSP once I get up to speed in it.

I MEEN PRE SELECTED SOUNDS MADE BY ALL THE SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON YOUR MUISIC PROGRAM.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 I MEEN PRE SELECTED SOUNDS MADE BY ALL THE SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON YOUR MUISIC PROGRAM.

presets.
yes lost of people use them. some pro some not so much. most people program there own synths from scratch once they have the ability.

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because the professhionals use all the latist and up to speed software,rather then making there own sounds

I think the pros are using the latest software to make there own sounds, not instead of making there own sounds.

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Originally posted by Kid_presentable I think the pros are using the latest software to make there own sounds, not instead of making there own sounds.

just want to put across how differant a producior can stand out from the croud if they work on there own sounds.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 just want to put across how differant a producior can stand out from the croud if they work on there own sounds.

There are 3 ways to make good tracks

- Innovation
- Don't follow trends
- Modulate

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas There are 3 ways to make good tracks - Innovation - Don't follow trends - Modulate

and not forgetting CREATIVEITY

i dont see whats wrong using presets if it gets u where u want? i never do it myself caus i find half of the fun to make the synth sounds myself, but for anyone who wants to finish tracks fast ofcourse presets is a good way for doing it. u might loose originality tho and u might sound like alot of other people.

Everybody uses presets. I bet half of all the pro's ever used virus presets. Some have a really distinguished sound. If it sounds good then that's all you need. If you feel more "elite" by not using presets then by all means don't use them.

Important note if your tracks start to get good and you contact label owners: try to build proper sentences. A good start is trying to use upper and lowercase the way God invented it.

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Originally posted by DeZmA If you feel more "elite" by not using presets then by all means don't use them.

I don't think it's always an elitist attitude that causes people to want to create their own patches (although, that certainly does apply in many cases). I just think that there's a certain self-satisfaction that comes with not only creating, but also using, your own sounds in your own compositions. I love creating new synth patches, but I'll also use straight and/or tweaked presets.

On a related note, in my experience, it often seems like those with the most elitist attitude toward using their own patches often create the most boring, unoriginal, and uninspirational sounds. Anybody else ever notice this?

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Originally posted by DeZmA Important note if your tracks start to get good and you contact label owners: try to build proper sentences. A good start is trying to use upper and lowercase the way God invented it.

Yes, absolutely. You cannot underestimate the power and value of proper communication. If you're not a good writer, it's in your best interest to have a friend or colleague with above-average or better writing skills proofread any written communication that you plan on sending to a label. No offense here, but if a label was to receive a demo submission that was written as incoherently and incomprehensibly as the OP's first post, I doubt that they would spend much time trying to decipher the message before deleting it and moving on to the next demo submission in the stack.

your you're (Classic schoolboy error)

there their they're (3 = tricky)

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas your you're (Classic schoolboy error) there their they're (3 = tricky)

Yes, those ones drive me nuts. And while we're OT, webspeak is fine 4 forums and text msgs, but not cool 4 demo submissions, u know?

(sorry, I'm not fluent in webspeak )

Of course

Sorry, Ry - that comment wasn't aimed at you!





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Originally posted by cryophonik I don't think it's always an elitist attitude that causes people to want to create their own patches (although, that certainly does apply in many cases). I just think that there's a certain self-satisfaction that comes with not only creating, but also using, your own sounds in your own compositions. I love creating new synth patches, but I'll also use straight and/or tweaked presets. On a related note, in my experience, it often seems like those with the most elitist attitude toward using their own patches often create the most boring, unoriginal, and uninspirational sounds. Anybody else ever notice this? Yes, absolutely. You cannot underestimate the power and value of proper communication. If you're not a good writer, it's in your best interest to have a friend or colleague with above-average or better writing skills proofread any written communication that you plan on sending to a label. No offense here, but if a label was to receive a demo submission that was written as incoherently and incomprehensibly as the OP's first post, I doubt that they would spend much time trying to decipher the message before deleting it and moving on to the next demo submission in the stack.

To be honest, my littratecie is "eralavent" in this case{a-leavel`s G.C.S.E.`S] dont you know! because A-who give`s a fuck? and B-cant be arssed,meaning who cares?;then relates to demo! wont be sending any. tiss,tiss,tiss my point was made with out any diss-corse-"FRIEND" as a good writer your are-let`s face fact`s- im better.Not wish to sound,well "rude" your point indeed[may he show affence,not sure so ile carry on any way]was indeed apted?

wow.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 To be honest, my littratecie is "eralavent" in this case{a-leavel`s G.C.S.E.`S] dont you know! because A-who give`s a fuck? and B-cant be arssed,meaning who cares?;then relates to demo! wont be sending any. tiss,tiss,tiss my point was made with out any diss-corse-"FRIEND" as a good writer your are-let`s face fact`s- im better.Not wish to sound,well "rude" your point indeed[may he show affence,not sure so ile carry on any way]was indeed apted?

Uh?

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Originally posted by airwalker1 YES IM INDEED FROM THE UK MY FRIEND FROM THE GOOD OLD SOUTH.AND YES IT`S DAM HARD WORK MAKEING YOUR TRACKES SOUND GOOD WITH OUT OVER EFECTING THINGS. MY METHOD IS THIS FIND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE,WELL SHIT THE NOT SO GOOD STUFF UNTILL I IT COMES TO THE GOOD PARTS.AND THE WORLD`S YOUR OISTER MATY.

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