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Posted by Ozmozis on Aug-13-2008 14:55:

Invisible Grin Europe Bound...

So I'm off to Europe next week on August 21st. I am very excited! Haven't traveled in many years but finally starting to do so to many places. As much as I'd love to check out everysingle place in Europe I only have a limited time of 3 weeks... I'll be flying into Vienna and then flying back from Istanbul.

I will be spending my last week in Turkey (8 Days) and 4 days in Bulgaria.

I only have about 2 days in each city and my plan is so far Vienna -> Basel -> Amsterdamn -> Paris -> Sofia (Something along those lines)

I know taking the train is very cheap in Europe and that's what I plan on doing. Unless ofcourse I can find cheap flights or decide to drive.

I heard about the EuroRail Pass. For $350 you have a choice of 4 destinations first class, which I think is pretty decent. Plus I can sleep

- Should I get the pass now or just wait till Europe incase I can find cheap flights there.
- I have places to stay in Vienna & Basel, but not sure where to stay in Paris and Amsterdam (beside whore houses, but I will visit them haha) I don't want to spend too much money on hotels, infact I might just sleep on the train, but afterall I do need a place to keep my backpack and stuff while I'm out, are hostels really safe for that?

Anyways, any input from those who have been to Europe would be great

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Club Recommendations please :P


Posted by jsibilin on Aug-13-2008 15:06:

try http://www.couchsurfing.com/ ..nothing beats free accommodations


Oz.. u ******.. i want some Budapest women !!

oh and i recommend not sleeping at all!~


Posted by Ozmozis on Aug-13-2008 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jsibilin
try http://www.couchsurfing.com/ ..nothing beats free accommodations
Oz.. u ******.. i want some Budapest women !!

oh and i recommend not sleeping at all!~


mmmm... I wouldn't enjoy my trip without any sleep lol...

Actually, I just signed up on that website yesterday. I will definietly consider it...


Posted by dEsidEL on Aug-13-2008 15:17:



if i recall correctly the Eurrail pass has to be bought here prior to beginning travel in EU .. there's lots of info online about it and so forth. Flights are also far cheaper (even with high oil prices) compared to charter flights here in North America. If you have a fixed itinerary, it might be better to go with the rail pass, but if you plan on making on the spot decisions on destinations, you can usually find some decent last minute deals on flights.

as for hostels, yes they are safe, in fact I think they add to the whole experience since that's where you'll meet a lot of other backpackers on your trip and end up partying with them until your liver fails.


Posted by Sasha on Aug-13-2008 15:58:

europass is not that great as you think it is. You cant just go anywhere in Europe for the price you quoted. Do your research ASAP.

regular train fares are pretty pricy. Train is probably most expensive transport in Europe. I prefer night buses. Costs you close to nothing, plus if you are travelling at night, you are saving on accommodation.. Being on a bus for more than 10 hours is hell tho, so you better find an alternative to get to Sofia.

As per accommodations, stay at hostels, some of them are SICK and super cheap.. do your research tho... there are some pretty sketchy hostels around too. especially in Amsterdam


Posted by Jem_hadar on Aug-13-2008 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


and end up partying with them until your liver fails.



Exactly. Haha, best way to do it up


Posted by Engine9 on Aug-13-2008 16:16:

taking the train is NOT cheap

you can buy the rail pass there, we bought ours in Amsterdam

only buy it if u plan on taking 5+ trips on the train

hostels r the way to go, we booked everyting thru www.hostelworld.com


Posted by vendetta999 on Aug-13-2008 17:23:

the hell with trains.

i just came back from europe on sunday and we didnt even take a train once.

check out ryanair.com and easyjet.com for budget airfare.

my recommendation....stick with easyjet if possible. but i'd still take ryanair over the trains.


Posted by dEsidEL on Aug-13-2008 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by vendetta999
the hell with trains.

i just came back from europe on sunday and we didnt even take a train once.

check out ryanair.com and easyjet.com for budget airfare.

my recommendation....stick with easyjet if possible. but i'd still take ryanair over the trains.




and also bearing in mind that Easyjet and Ryanair operate primarily out of the UK. So if he's traveling between other European cities outside of the UK he'll need to consider other discount carriers which exist as well.


Posted by kotsy on Aug-14-2008 06:05:

This thread makes me want to travel


Posted by zokissima on Aug-14-2008 13:24:

Having just come back a month ago, I'd concur with Sasha. The trains aren't really the cheapest and *best* option. Night busses save you the most time and money. Also, considering your schedule, I'd cut out one city, and add an extra day to others. You will lose a lot of time in travel, and will not get enough time in these places.

BTW, just out of curiosity, how come so long in Sofia?


Posted by MKpacha on Aug-14-2008 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Sasha
europass is not that great as you think it is. You cant just go anywhere in Europe for the price you quoted. Do your research ASAP.


VERY true... also... many local trains you can just hop on without paying... so don't waste your money if you don't have to. In france we travelled all through the south for free by their local public train.


Posted by Ozmozis on Aug-14-2008 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


and also bearing in mind that Easyjet and Ryanair operate primarily out of the UK. So if he's traveling between other European cities outside of the UK he'll need to consider other discount carriers which exist as well.



Any websites you recommend?


Posted by Ozmozis on Aug-14-2008 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
Having just come back a month ago, I'd concur with Sasha. The trains aren't really the cheapest and *best* option. Night busses save you the most time and money. Also, considering your schedule, I'd cut out one city, and add an extra day to others. You will lose a lot of time in travel, and will not get enough time in these places.

BTW, just out of curiosity, how come so long in Sofia?


It looks like I will cut Paris out of my trip and spend more days in the other countries...

So far I'm thinking Vienna -> Basel -> Frankfurt (One night to party at Cacoon Club lol) -> Amsterdam -> Sofia -> Istanbul, Ankara (and the mediterrian cost Antalya, Bodrum etc...)

I have family in Bulgaria also the parties are great in Sofia


Posted by jsibilin on Aug-14-2008 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
It looks like I will cut Paris out of my trip and spend more days in the other countries...

So far I'm thinking Vienna -> Basel -> Frankfurt -> Amsterdam -> Sofia -> Istanbul, Ankara (and the mediterrian cost Antalya, Bodrum etc...)

I have family in Bulgaria also the parties are great in Sofia


what about Bratislava ??


Posted by Ozmozis on Aug-14-2008 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by jsibilin
what about Bratislava ??


We'll see maybe on the way...

I just kinda want a general idea of which method of transportation to use. I'm sure my cousins living in Vienna will be very resourcefull. Who knows, might end up driving...


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Aug-14-2008 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
It looks like I will cut Paris out of my trip and spend more days in the other countries...


Do it. Paris is a waste of a city. It's beautiful, but overhyped, there are too many tourists, and the locals are some of the rudest people you'll ever have the displeasure of coming in contact with.


Posted by Ozmozis on Aug-14-2008 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Do it. Paris is a waste of a city. It's beautiful, but overhyped, there are too many tourists, and the locals are some of the rudest people you'll ever have the displeasure of coming in contact with.


Well to be honest the only reason I'd wanna go to Paris is to go see the Eiffel Tower. Otherwise meh...

Which doesn't make me upset... it just mean now I will have time to visit Vondersex in Amsterdam LOL!


Posted by dEsidEL on Aug-14-2008 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
Any websites you recommend?




there are discount carriers that operate all throughout Europe. Seeing as how you're traveling through parts of Central Europe, you might wanna check out http://www.skyeurope.com/en/

Other than that, a great travel resource I've always found is www.bootsnall.com , they've got one of the best travel forums on the net with tons of resources for all the stuff you're looking for.


Posted by Ozmozis on Aug-14-2008 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


there are discount carriers that operate all throughout Europe. Seeing as how you're traveling through parts of Central Europe, you might wanna check out http://www.skyeurope.com/en/

Other than that, a great travel resource I've always found is www.bootsnall.com , they've got one of the best travel forums on the net with tons of resources for all the stuff you're looking for.



Awesome!! You've been very helpfull! There are flights from Amsterdam to Sofia! This pretty much solves all my problems

The flight only costs $233 euro


Posted by Sasha on Aug-14-2008 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by MKpacha
many local trains you can just hop on without paying... so don't waste your money if you don't have to. In france we travelled all through the south for free by their local public train.


listen to this girl!

<3


Posted by Special K on Aug-14-2008 21:28:

basel's kind of a boring city

I think youd have more fun in zurich!!! or even geneva / lausanne ...

especially if you want to party it up!


Posted by nadezhda on Aug-14-2008 21:58:

ugh. i'm shuddering thinking about the one night bus i took to edinburgh. 8 hours of sheer hell. plus, by the time you get to your destination you're so tired cos you haven't slept at all.

i'd look into flights personally.

again, with the parisians being rude - i really don't get it? i thought they were fine. although i guess i spoke "french" (ie: made a valiant effort but probably sounded ridiculous) with them, and was coming from italy where i thought everyone was beyond rude. the french were like a breath of fresh air!


Posted by MKpacha on Aug-14-2008 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Special K
basel's kind of a boring city

I think youd have more fun in zurich!!! or even geneva / lausanne ...

especially if you want to party it up!




lol....you sound EXACTLY like my father


Posted by gummybear on Aug-14-2008 23:07:

iyi eylenceler!

ur so lucky.. have a great time and have some doner for me back home..!


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