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I have 4500 bucks to blow out on a new PC, any pointers?

I'm looking forward to buying a brand new PC for music production and graphic design. I have roughly around 4500 bucks to spend on new equipment but I don't really know exactly what to buy.

That's why I'm asking for your help and I DID PERFORM A SEARCH before posting

OK so here are the conditions:
1) only PC no mac (sorry for the mac fans)
2) around or below 4500 bucks
3) no sound card needed already got one
4) kick ass graphics card and processor for the whole Adobe suite
5) enough RAM to blast the hell away with samples on Ableton
6) enough disk space (circa 200 GB) but tremendous speed (at least 7200 rpm)
7) no Vista (works crap with Adobe Suite)
8) this setup should not include screen, keyboard, mouse , speakers all that shit
9) the rest is up to you

I really need the help since I'm not really like a superfan of computer hardware

get 2 of these
http://www.directron.com/vcqfx5600pciep.html

$4500 bucks to spend on a new PC?? Shit with that budget you can get the best of the best and still have money left over.

Here is what I would personally buy if I had that much cash to blow on a new PC. I would go to Newegg.com and order the following:

CPU: Intel QX9775 (currently the most powerful CPU you can buy)

Videocards: 2 x Geforce GX280s in SLI

Motherboard: ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX

PSU: Corsair HX1000W

RAM: OCZ Intel Extreme Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3X16004GK

Hard Drives: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

With all of that you are at about $3800-$4000 so that leaves you around $500 left over for other things. This machine would crush anything you could throw at it. Good luck!

Re: I have 4500 bucks to blow out on a new PC, any pointers?

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Originally posted by ponsshin I really need the help since I'm not really like a superfan of computer hardware

if ur not fan of computer hardware then i would not use 4500 "bucks" (euros???) on computer. 1000-1500 should be enough man.

I always buy one or two steps below the top of the line model (certainly for cpu and gpu). Computer stuff evolves just too fast and it's more bang for the buck. That way you save a lot of money that you can use to spend on a better soundcard or a synth or maybe for an earlier upgrade.

Also instead of buying 300 GB of 10k rpm harddisk, I'd go for 100 GB on 10k rmp to use for windows and programs, and 1TB (2x 500, with your samples and tracks backed up on the other) for data.

$4500 is a lot to spend.

I built a computer recently with all very good parts and very good specs for music production and I only spent around $1000.

I already had 2 monitors and the sound card.

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Originally posted by Magnus $4500 bucks to spend on a new PC?? Shit with that budget you can get the best of the best and still have money left over.

Not if he buys a Dell 30" LCD

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Originally posted by kadomony get 2 of these http://www.directron.com/vcqfx5600pciep.html

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Memory bandwidth: 76.8GB/sec.

Is that a typo?!

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Originally posted by Magnus $4500 bucks to spend on a new PC?? Shit with that budget you can get the best of the best and still have money left over.

this is stupid.

do not do this.

buying "the best" cpu (or anything for that matter) available at the time, you will pay double or more for a very tiny performance increase. you are best off finding the sweet spot for all your components (a few steps back from the best) and buying that.

i also wouldnt get a 300gb velociraptor. i'd get a smaller one and use it for OS + programs only, then normal 7.2k rpm ones for data/backup. this would actually be faster than having everything on one velociraptor anyway... because you can read/write off all the drives independantly and do things in parallel.

From what I experienced with my friend about 5 years ago, its almost useless to spend that much money. We both bought our PCs simultaneously, and he spent around 3000� on a PC, while I spent 1000�. His PC became effectively obsolete only 3 months later than mine, so you really have to ask yourself if thats worth the extra expense for you. There is really not that much performance difference between high end and highest end, except that the price difference is huge.

I would get a good high quality PC, but not too high end. Asus has good mainboards from my experience, harddrive manufacturers dont make that much difference but look for one with good RPM and capacity, 8 GB of Ram and a quad core should be as future proof as it gets... Then I would get a decent blu ray drive, the power supply shouldnt be noname either.

A really good PC wont cost you more than 2000$, but if you really want to spend a lot of money, rather look for useful extras like a mirror harddisk backing up everything you write on the other. bluray drive, as I said. a lot of USB ports wouldnt hurt either. Large screen, of course. Since you got enough money, I would again like to mention to get rather high quality components than highest performance components. It pays off... My PC from 3 years ago was like 1200� in price, I bought of course hi end equipment, but rather looked for good quality manufacturers. I still have the same windows installation running, I didnt have to change any parts, the machine is simply rock solid.

and of course anything that helps with audio. like good monitors n stuff. this is a music producer forum after all ffs.

buy an mpc 1000!!! trust me man... just get one

Thanks guys.
I was speaking in dollars because I was thinking of buying overseas (much less expensive even with shipping costs).

Sure if I could avoid spending my whole money on a new PC, I will. I'm not gonna spend $4500 just for the fun of it.

The reason why I want to spend a liitle extra cash is because the last computer I bought was a crappy laptop with unreplaceable parts that cost me $1500. So I'm looking forward to having a setup that can evolve and follow the trend if you know what I mean.

So point taken: not highest end but high end pc FTW.

edit: I was also checking Alienware's stuff. Seems like they're really into the top quality manufacturing instead of the highest performance deal. Does anybody here own an Alienware?

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Originally posted by [Ocean]State $4500 is a lot to spend. I built a computer recently with all very good parts and very good specs for music production and I only spent around $1000. I already had 2 monitors and the sound card.

Ok give me some of your light man how did you do it?

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Originally posted by ponsshin edit: I was also checking Alienware's stuff. Seems like they're really into the top quality manufacturing instead of the highest performance deal. Does anybody here own an Alienware?

Alienware is way overrated. You are basically paying twice what you should for a computer case with an alien led light on it. It's best to build it yourself. and buy the parts individualy.

The only way you can justify 4500 is on a mac, because as far as I know, any RAM you get over 3GB will be wasted. Whereas, on a mac, I think you can get up to 8 GB, plus two quad cores. No PC will ever be able to live up to that. Also, as Echo said, buy two hard disks rather than one big one, since you'll get more performance. If you're not going for a mac, I'd limit myself to a budget of 2000 or less, since that'll mean to won't be forking out for the latest stuff, which will be overpriced and pointless. I use a PC by the way so I understand your reluctance to go mac, but if I had that much money to spend, I'd spend it where it'll do the most good.

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Originally posted by kitphillips The only way you can justify 4500 is on a mac, because as far as I know, any RAM you get over 3GB will be wasted.

Thats the truth only for a 32bit OS. Any 64 bit os like Windows XP64 or Vista 64 support several terabyte of ram in theory.

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Originally posted by kitphillips The only way you can justify 4500 is on a mac, because as far as I know, any RAM you get over 3GB will be wasted. Whereas, on a mac, I think you can get up to 8 GB, plus two quad cores. No PC will ever be able to live up to that. Also, as Echo said, buy two hard disks rather than one big one, since you'll get more performance. If you're not going for a mac, I'd limit myself to a budget of 2000 or less, since that'll mean to won't be forking out for the latest stuff, which will be overpriced and pointless. I use a PC by the way so I understand your reluctance to go mac, but if I had that much money to spend, I'd spend it where it'll do the most good.

mac and pc uses the exact same hardware this days. vista can address more than 128 GB of memory.

but yes it makes no sense to buy the latest components as you'll have a much lower price/value ratio.

Yes, but look at the number of applications and drivers supported by Vista 64 bit Last I looked there were real issues. Whereas I think that Mac OSX is completely 64 bit, and almost all mac applications seem to be universal binary. Hence my recommendation.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Yes, but look at the number of applications and drivers supported by Vista 64 bit Last I looked there were real issues. Whereas I think that Mac OSX is completely 64 bit, and almost all mac applications seem to be universal binary. Hence my recommendation.

all my hardware is supported by vista 64

Ah perhaps I'm mistaken? I thought there were a bunch of VSTs and soundcards and things that weren't... But maybe thats not true anymore. I'd still be very wary of 64 bit windows since its so new and probably poorly implemented, whereas Mac has been ALL 64 bit for a few years now. Just my opinion...

Nobody needs a sever grade Mac for music production. Huge waste of money.

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Originally posted by thecYrus mac and pc uses the exact same hardware this days.

You mean you CAN build a PC with the same hardware as a Mac, right? There's no standard in PC hardware like there is with Mac so there's really no way to say PC's are using the exact same hardware.

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell You mean you CAN build a PC with the same hardware as a Mac, right? There's no standard in PC hardware like there is with Mac so there's really no way to say PC's are using the exact same hardware.

i said that Apple builds mac with the same components which are available to any other manufacturer like HP, DELL, Lenovo, ...

Haha, I didn't mean to start a PC vs Mac thing here, I'm really just talking about who has the support for the best hardware possible, since if your spending 4500 on a machine, you want the OS to be able to access all the hardware you've spent that cash on right And CPU and RAM are the best things to have for production.

I built a kick ass q6600 PC with only $1000. It has more than enough power for every music production I've done since. I'd say build it or buy it if you have to and spend the rest on a pair of studio monitors and a synth.

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