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Posted by mfitterer1 on Aug-16-2008 10:45:

Software or digital mixer?

What are the differences in both steps and quality of digital vs mixing down on your computer? Second of all I saw this deal at the local supplier and am curious if it is worth picking up?

Im starting to think mixing down away from the comp may be beneficial just to get away from a computer and do something different, aside from any spec/ease/quality points of view.

Any info is much appreciated!


Posted by Ry Thomas on Aug-16-2008 11:44:

I'd be biased and say get a digital mixer, solely because that's what i prefer


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-16-2008 12:26:

u got the space and money then why not. for me im using my money on something diferent and mix in the comp. pluss i dont have the space for a mixer in my livingroom.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Aug-16-2008 20:43:

Ok I know I would prefer to mix digitally because I hate sitting at comps all day and can't afford the 50-60k I'd need to invest in a full hardware studio, so that's what route I will go.

How is the product I mentioned above? Any recommendations if that's not a good choice? How many channels do I need? What else do I need to look for?

And the biggest question of all, how will it damage the process that everything is going to be created software wise. Im guessing just bounce everything to audio then we go to mixdown digitally?


Posted by Ry Thomas on Aug-16-2008 21:15:

I didnt see a product mentioned


Posted by spolitta on Aug-17-2008 00:03:

Re: Software or digital mixer?

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
What are the differences in both steps and quality of digital vs mixing down on your computer? Second of all I saw this deal at the local supplier and am curious if it is worth picking up?

Im starting to think mixing down away from the comp may be beneficial just to get away from a computer and do something different, aside from any spec/ease/quality points of view.

Any info is much appreciated!


I'm gonna be a great help to and tell you that you are on a very wrong direction. If you need to get away from your computer sequencer mixer to do something different than you have no idea how to mix down or produce at all, this kind of stuff is not what makes you a better producer. As harsh as I sounded like I really hope you got the point.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Aug-17-2008 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
I didnt see a product mentioned


Sorry forgot to paste it!

http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-...788-i1380023.gc


Posted by mfitterer1 on Aug-17-2008 02:01:

Re: Re: Software or digital mixer?

quote:
Originally posted by spolitta
I'm gonna be a great help to and tell you that you are on a very wrong direction. If you need to get away from your computer sequencer mixer to do something different than you have no idea how to mix down or produce at all, this kind of stuff is not what makes you a better producer. As harsh as I sounded like I really hope you got the point.


That's all fine to hold that opinion but it would be much more meaningful to someone like myself if you actually explained WHY you feel that way?

Second of all I havent ever mixed down, I was wanting to think and buy ahead before getting there.

Im curious why you feel the way you do, please explain!


Posted by spolitta on Aug-17-2008 04:24:

Re: Re: Re: Software or digital mixer?

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
That's all fine to hold that opinion but it would be much more meaningful to someone like myself if you actually explained WHY you feel that way?

Second of all I havent ever mixed down, I was wanting to think and buy ahead before getting there.

Im curious why you feel the way you do, please explain!


My friend if you are just starting out you will need tons of things to learn. You need to learn the difference between a sequencer and a mixer. You need to pick and learn a software sequencer really well. Those cheap all in one studios are no where as flexible as software, and they get much harder when your projects gets bigger, not really ideal for a complex electronic track. This is such a broad topic that I wouldn't know where to begin unless I explain user interface and signal path in details plus compare mixing in the box (ITB) and out of the box (OTB) which altogether would be a really long post. If you are the type of guy who prefers hands-on tweaking rather using the mouse that would be a different topic, you'll need to buy a good midi controller for mixing and sound design but those stuff are not a must and could be purchased later. What you need in the beginning is a fast computer dedicated for production and a good converter (sound card). You also need to learn your sequencer really well. Then worry about mixing ITB or OTB. Last but not least you'll need a good set of speaker monitors and headphones either way.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Aug-17-2008 21:36:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Software or digital mixer?

quote:
Originally posted by spolitta
My friend if you are just starting out you will need tons of things to learn. You need to learn the difference between a sequencer and a mixer. You need to pick and learn a software sequencer really well. Those cheap all in one studios are no where as flexible as software, and they get much harder when your projects gets bigger, not really ideal for a complex electronic track. This is such a broad topic that I wouldn't know where to begin unless I explain user interface and signal path in details plus compare mixing in the box (ITB) and out of the box (OTB) which altogether would be a really long post. If you are the type of guy who prefers hands-on tweaking rather using the mouse that would be a different topic, you'll need to buy a good midi controller for mixing and sound design but those stuff are not a must and could be purchased later. What you need in the beginning is a fast computer dedicated for production and a good converter (sound card). You also need to learn your sequencer really well. Then worry about mixing ITB or OTB. Last but not least you'll need a good set of speaker monitors and headphones either way.


Lol I have everything you mentioned, I was looking for the differences between itb and otb mixing is all so that I could decide how to go about mixing.


Posted by Eldritch on Aug-18-2008 01:32:

There is no difference in quality. Use whatever you prefer. Software will always be more flexible though.


Posted by spolitta on Aug-18-2008 03:13:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Software or digital mixer?

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
Lol I have everything you mentioned, I was looking for the differences between itb and otb mixing is all so that I could decide how to go about mixing.


ITB vs OTB is a pointless debate unless we compare products. But generally you would want to mix ITB as much as you can because it's easier and cheaper. If there is a piece of a gear that you need but you can't find the emulator or the emulation is simply poor, then you need to worry about buying the real thing. When you invest into hardware you have to have a really good converter plus maintain a clean signal patch otherwise it's just better to stick with your software.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Aug-18-2008 05:56:

K thanks all. Started mixing down today and it's not too bad through Ableton so I'm gonna stick with that and buy a new comp instead so I can go nuts:-p


Posted by Theran on Aug-18-2008 12:40:

I think there really is no difference in quality, everything is pretty high standard these days. I think that the main difference is that you have everything you need in your PC (if it's good equipt though). If your just really fond of knobturning a bangin' faders, you can always consider buying a Mackie Control or something equivelent.

IMO it's easier to keep everything inside your PC, it works much easier.



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