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Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-18-2008 15:13:

Thumbs down Children Stealing Gold in Beijing

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Too bad the International Olympic Committee doesn't seem to care.


Look at the girl in the center of this picture. She�s Deng Linlin. Does she look 16 to you? To be eligible for the ongoing Olympics in Beijing, a female gymnast must turn that age no later than sometime this year. In gymnastics, prepubescent female competitors have a distinct advantage over older ones � their bones are more supple, they are lighter, they have less fear.

Deng in the picture is all smiles. She and her comrades made history by winning gold last Wednesday, edging out the slightly favored Americans in the women�s team gymnastics competition. Officially, the sweet Ms. Deng was born on April 21, 1992. But the 4-foot-6, 68 pound wisp may have come into this world on May 22, 1993 � or perhaps even later.

Ms. Deng is not the only Chinese gymnast with multiple birthdates. In fact, the spotlight this year has fallen on three of her teammates: Jiang Yuyuan, Yang Yilin, and the especially infamous He Kexin. China�s official Xinhua News Agency listed Ms. He�s age as 13 on its website just nine months before the Olympics began. China Daily, the country�s official English-language paper, said on May 23 she was 14. Records on an official Chinese website show that Ms. He was born on January 1, 1994. Liu Peng, director of general administration of sport in China, last November publicly said that she was 13. Of course, none of this matters now � during the middle of February Beijing issued to Ms. He a passport showing her date of birth as January 1, 1992, thus making her eligible to compete. And a Chinese gymnastic official dismisses the Xinhua report as �a mistake.�

Yet there is no mistaking what we can see with our own eyes. Chinese coaches tried to hide the ages of the girls with �enough makeup to shame a drag queen,� but no amount of lipstick and eyeliner can hide the fact that the American gymnasts have curves and breasts and the Chinese ones don�t. On average, the girls on the Chinese team are 3.5 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter than their American counterparts. Bela Karolyi, the legendary coach of gold-medalists Nadia Comaneci of Romania and Mary Lou Retton of the United States, calls the members of China�s team �half-people.� They still have their baby teeth, he points out. Take a close look at the picture of the charming Ms. Deng, and you will find that she�s missing a tooth � her permanent ones have not all grown in. Yet she too is now listed in official records as � don�t be surprised � 16.



Age limits are never a problem for China. Yang Yun, who took home two bronze medals from the Sydney Olympics in 2000, admitted afterwards on Chinese television that she was 14 when she competed and that both she and her coaches deliberately fibbed about her age. As Karolyi exclaims, �What arrogance!� The Chinese don�t have to mess with stop-growth hormones; they just brazenly send in girls fresh from elementary school. Yet we should not be shocked by the audacity of Communist Party cadres. Since 1949 when they seized power, China�s leaders have sought to create an alternate reality for the Chinese people. Now, they think themselves so powerful that they expect the rest of the world to meekly accept their fabrications.

Will we? Said Liang Chow, the coach of disappointed American gymnast Shawn Johnson, �I believe the officials will deal with it.� Well, actually, they will not. The International Olympic Committee won�t get involved. Its spineless president, Jacques Rogge, initially said enforcement of the age limit was up to the Chinese gymnastics federation. When the controversy became too big to ignore, the International Gymnastics Federation examined the passports of the Chinese girls and said it was satisfied. Bruno Grandi, the federation�s president, said that not even a confession from the Chinese gymnasts would trigger a reopening of the eligibility question. Nobody, it seems, wants to offend the great nation of China.

Yet there is something that can be done. Chinese officials can forge birth certificates and issue new travel documents, but they cannot hide the girls themselves.


Sanjay Gupta, CNN�s chief medical correspondent, noted that medical tests can determine the age of children. �You could get X-rays, for example, of the hands, of the hips,� he said on Thursday. �There are growth plates which aren�t fully fused yet at a certain age. So, you can�t tell to a particular day. But within a few months or a year, probably get a pretty good sense how old somebody is if they wanted to investigate that.�

The IOC�s Rogge had no problem investigating and then condemning American track star Marion Jones because of doping. In December, the then-courageous official rightly took away the three golds and two bronzes she had won in Sydney in 2000.

Will Rogge change course and show the same strength of character now? There is nothing to suggest he will. And if his IOC won�t examine Deng, Jiang, Yang, and He, then I recommend that the committee just award all the women�s gymnastics medals from the London Games in 2012 to the Chinese at this time. The Chinese admitted to cheating in Sydney, and they are clearly cheating now. Why bother to hold the 2012 competitions in these circumstances? At least an advance award of medals would let people know what is really going on.

China has shamed itself. And so has the IOC.

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I hope these games backfire big time for China.
One can only put so much lipstick on a pig...


Posted by Shakka on Aug-18-2008 15:16:

But damn, those little 70 pounders can fly! It's a shame, but not terribly surprising. Everyone I know kept saying the same thing--there's no way all of those girls are 16.


Posted by Moongoose on Aug-18-2008 15:23:

Im not siding with the chinese on this one or something but it amuses me to see how this wasnt a big story, actually it wasnt a story at all until after the us team lost to them.before that nobody could care less, after it was suddenly front page news.


Still respect to all of them. i get sick just watching them doo al those spins in the air, than land on a bean thats almost narrower than their foot. Amazing.


Posted by Kinezi on Aug-18-2008 15:28:

Hedious.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Aug-18-2008 15:43:

It curious how the IOC has no problem with Marion Jones though...

Wonder how many under-the-carpet deals the ICO has made with China...


Posted by mndeg on Aug-18-2008 17:33:

They likely aren't underaged. China also has skilled long distance runners that they did not allow them to complete because they are under 18 (the age limit for long distance running)

Love the perma china bashing by American media. As predictable as ever.


Posted by Kinezi on Aug-18-2008 17:59:

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Originally posted by mndeg


Love the perma china bashing by American media. As predictable as ever.


Hey dont blame me, I am just jumping the bandwagon and hating China as well.. its cool to hate them and protest.


Posted by Shakka on Aug-18-2008 18:25:

Is it bashing if it's a statement of presumed fact? "Cheating" in the Olympics is nothing unusual, sad as that may be. Nothing wrong with pointing it out when it occurs.


Posted by mndeg on Aug-18-2008 19:07:

yes, because it's only presumption against china only because it's china. nobody says look at alicia sacramone! her neck is huge! why is she so manly? is she doping?


Posted by Krypton on Aug-18-2008 19:30:

They should open up the age limit to anyone capable of competing on the international stage. If 13 year old girls are capable of winning gold medals, then they should be allowed to do so.


Posted by Shakka on Aug-18-2008 20:26:

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Originally posted by mndeg
yes, because it's only presumption against china only because it's china. nobody says look at alicia sacramone! her neck is huge! why is she so manly? is she doping?



Bwahahah! Is it documented though? I don't think it's solely directed at China. It invariably gets directed at anyone who wins (or wins by a large margin). Alicia Sacramone scares me, and for good reason! Bitch throws a mean left hook.


Posted by Kinezi on Aug-18-2008 22:09:

'Cheating' goes on in every olympics? You mean like when a weightlifter accitendly ate more carrots in his diet and the drug test failed him cos of some chemical which got imbalaced right? Well in that case the 'cheater' is one person and not the country.. but in this case the wrath is directed at the whole country, like tha chinese govt and its people are collectvly involved in cheating olympics.

And I bet china cant defend itself against such bullshit limitless offending allegations.. cos the day it tries to defend it.. its is nomore defending itself, he is actually suppressing free speech/media.. and blah blah blah.. china becomes a communist oppressive govt who dosent like free people..

So the best China can do is to let the dogs bark.. and dont bark back at them.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Aug-18-2008 22:24:

Hey, look at the bright side... at least their last name isn't Rothschild, Warburg, or Rockerfellar.


Posted by Shakka on Aug-18-2008 23:33:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Hey, look at the bright side... at least their last name isn't Rothschild, Warburg, or Rockerfellar.


Did you actually translate to figure that out?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-18-2008 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Did you actually translate to figure that out?


his tinfoil helmet has an inbuilt translator


Posted by shaolin_Z on Aug-19-2008 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Did you actually translate to figure that out?

力量
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
his tinfoil helmet has an inbuilt translator

Blinders often give one the wrong translation


Posted by Lira on Aug-19-2008 01:54:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
力量

�_吃熊猫嗎!?


Posted by shaolin_Z on Aug-19-2008 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
�_吃熊猫嗎!?

LOL, not exactly.


Posted by LazFX on Aug-19-2008 15:57:





Posted by Shakka on Aug-19-2008 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
力量



吃迪克。 我不知道什么那认为。


Posted by Kinezi on Aug-19-2008 17:52:

You guys has turned this thread to bullshit, just like all the bullshit western media propaganda. Chinese people are being nice to you and this is what you are giving them back.. jokes, allegations, slangs, insults.. Chinese have pt smile on there faces and welcome you with open heart,,, they are trying hard to change your perception about them and this is what you give them in return. Jokes and making fun of them all the time. You should all be ashamed of yourself.. appreciate their efforts atleast.


Posted by Shakka on Aug-19-2008 18:28:

shut up and stop whining.


Posted by Kinezi on Aug-19-2008 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
shut up and stop whining.


I am not whining,, its your people in west finding every excuse to start bitching n whining.


Posted by Krypton on Aug-19-2008 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
I am not whining,, its your people in west finding every excuse to start bitching n whining.


hey, i said if 13 year old girls can compete on a level playing field in the Olympics, then why shouldn't they?


Posted by Zild on Aug-19-2008 18:38:

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Originally posted by Krypton
hey, i said if 13 year old girls can compete on a level playing field in the Olympics, then why shouldn't they?


One could make a case that the only way a 13 year old could have the training and experience to win a gold is because they're treated like slaves from a very young age, but I won't because I don't give a fuck, but someone could argue that.


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