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Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-22-2008 13:48:

Finally moved to Mac

So I finally got myself a brand new MacBook Pro!! Woohoo!

I vaguely remember using Mac many moons ago and realize now that my skills aren't nearly where I thought they were. Couple questions...

- Before I start moving my music and installing apps like Serato, are there any tweeks that people tend to do like with PC? Stuff that enhances the machine for DJ use? Stuff that comes installed that I can disable or uninstall?

- Should my music be in a certain spot on the laptop? Somewhere that's best for Serato etc?

Any advice or heads up in making this move would be great!!! Thanks in advance all!


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-22-2008 14:05:

No tweaks necessary really.

I just keep all my music organized in iTunes, then Serato will automatically show you all of it when you open the program. Smart playlists in iTunes are great.


Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-22-2008 14:37:

I'm not completely sure what you mean by using Itunes' smart playlist...to date, I have all my files in my own folder structure that I like, and I remember being dissapointed when I installed my Ipod and accidentally let Itunes do some kind of auto change to all my structure.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-22-2008 15:17:

Actually you have two options... in iTunes, go to preferences/advanced/general. The default is for "Keep iTunes Music folder organized".

This does what you didn't like, reorganizing all of your files into iTunes own artist/album file structure with its own names. If you don't like that, just uncheck that box. Set iTunes to use your own folder structure as it's music folder, and let it add all the files to its database.

Personally I just let iTunes do its own thing, since any playlists I create in iTunes just show up in Traktor. I don't access the tracks directly, but if I do need one, just drag it from iTunes onto the desktop to grab it. But to each his own, if you have other apps that don't integrate with iTunes it makes sense to use your own structure.

Smart playlists are a very powerful feature of iTunes. They look like regular playlists, but the contents of the playlists (rather than you dragging songs into them) are based on a filter you set up.

So you can say "I want a play lists of all my 'house' tracks, that are 7 minutes or longer" or something like that, and it'll populate the playlist with those tracks. You can filter on a ton of things, genre, artist, album, length, file type, bitrate, date added, etc.

Whenever I download new tracks, I change the genre tag to different custom ones based on what I think the track feels like (like "Ryan Funky House", "Ryan Tech House", etc). I then have smart playlists for each of these genres.

quote:
Originally posted by OTtrancer
I'm not completely sure what you mean by using Itunes' smart playlist...to date, I have all my files in my own folder structure that I like, and I remember being dissapointed when I installed my Ipod and accidentally let Itunes do some kind of auto change to all my structure.


Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-22-2008 15:31:

Wow...pretty slick!! I may have to try that.

Question that just came to mind...kinda silly, but do you use an antivirus on your Mac? I never did on my PC cause I kept it off the net as much as I could, but I want my Mac to be more versatile in being able to test downloading etc and don't wanna get infected...any suggestions?


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-22-2008 15:32:

I don't bother, no. Make sure you use a router at home, that's a decent enough firewall for you.


Posted by miamitranceman on Aug-22-2008 15:46:

Man, you should return it and wait about another month or so when the new redesigned models are supposed to drop.


Posted by keithos27 on Aug-22-2008 15:51:

everything ryan said is pretty much spot on, except for one piece of advice.

if you can't find a track's file he recommended finding it in itunes and then dragging it onto the desktop. this creates a copy of the file onto your desktop so you essentially are taking up twice the space. there are a couple of things i'd do instead.

- the easiest thing to do is within itunes, you can right-click on the file and say "reveal in finder" which is the mac os equivalent of saying "show me where this file is in windows explorer".

- something else i think you may want to start taking advantage of is spotlight. this will help you regardless of what program you're using. with the newer versions of mac os you have a VERY powerful search/indexing feature already installed. in the top right-hand corner of your screen you'll see what looks like a magnifying glass. you can search for pretty much anything in there. just type the file name (or what you remember of it) and spotlight will find it. from there you can display the results. you can also accomplish this within any finder window (it'll be at the top right-hand side of any finder window).

hope that helps!?!? i have a macbook pro as well and have been using mac laptops for about 4 years now. i'm by no means an expert... i learn something new almost every day. enjoy your purchase!

oh and with respects to anti-virus software don't bother... i think there are 1 or 2 viruses for mac os period. so why bother slowing down your system for that? it's extremely unlikely you'll get a virus that affects YOUR computer. i do think, however, that you could receive a file that has a virus in it, it'll do nothing to your computer, but you could essentially pass it along to a windows user. but that's a whole other discussion...

-keith


Posted by keithos27 on Aug-22-2008 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Man, you should return it and wait about another month or so when the new redesigned models are supposed to drop.


maybe... but who knows what problems those will have. at least this version he has is a pretty well-tuned machine at this point. but hey, nothing is ever perfect...


Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-22-2008 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
maybe... but who knows what problems those will have. at least this version he has is a pretty well-tuned machine at this point. but hey, nothing is ever perfect...


I'm with you on this one Keithos, although I trulely appreciate the heads up about the newer model...I'm not one to stay with the newest models of anything...I'm never a fan v1.0 of anything! haha. On the other hand, I"m going to be very upset if the price drops significantly in a months time when this new model comes out! Maybe I should get informed...

**Another quick question...I was a heavy user of remote desktop on my win laptop. I would remote to my server at home where all my music downloads goto. Does Mac support a means of remoting to a win station? I thought it would given the support of things like Boot Camp.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-22-2008 17:49:

Microsoft is nice enough to make a mac client:

http://connect.microsoft.com/macrdc


Posted by OTtrancer on Aug-22-2008 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Microsoft is nice enough to make a mac client:

http://connect.microsoft.com/macrdc


You da man Ryan!!!


Posted by keithos27 on Aug-22-2008 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by OTtrancer
On the other hand, I"m going to be very upset if the price drops significantly in a months time when this new model comes out! Maybe I should get informed...


I will guarantee it will drop in price once the newer model comes out...


Posted by wesleysnipez on Aug-23-2008 02:20:

I got old macbook here that just collecting dust because laptop I use in my DJ setup is XPS M1530 and only tie it into my music desktop that is in my studio that is connected to my network.


Posted by CouchFire on Aug-24-2008 02:30:

Turn off your dashboard... Widgets are little RAM eaters...


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-24-2008 06:56:

Congratulations on making the move to mac!

Unofortunately, I don't mean to piss on your parade (especially being a relatively new mac owner myself) but if you can, take it back now!

I'm sorry to say it but you literally could not have chosen a worse time to buy a new macbook.

Don't misunderstand me, I too have reservations about 1st gen of a new model, but more so now than in recent years, Apple have to get it right first time and more often than not, when there is something flawed it's just a matter of upgrading the soft/firmware.

I also know you can get lost just endlessly waiting for the latest model to come out in fear of it being made obsolete quicker, but seriously the exact time you have bought your mac book such bad timing in terms of value.

Even if you don't want to buy the new model, the model you just bought will drop in price by at least 10-20% (within 3 to 4 weeks from now). You are right at that point when you pay full price for what will be considered last years model in a couple of weeks.

If it doesn't matter, then just enjoy it and again congratulations! but if you're asking if you are going to pissed if you see this model cheaper in a couple of weeks, I'm just trying to give you an honest answer. Yes.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Aug-24-2008 19:52:

Would it be inappropriate to say: Once you try Mac - you never go back?

Which is one reason I won't try one.


Posted by jupiterone on Aug-24-2008 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Congratulations on making the move to mac!

Unofortunately, I don't mean to piss on your parade (especially being a relatively new mac owner myself) but if you can, take it back now!

I'm sorry to say it but you literally could not have chosen a worse time to buy a new macbook.

Don't misunderstand me, I too have reservations about 1st gen of a new model, but more so now than in recent years, Apple have to get it right first time and more often than not, when there is something flawed it's just a matter of upgrading the soft/firmware.

I also know you can get lost just endlessly waiting for the latest model to come out in fear of it being made obsolete quicker, but seriously the exact time you have bought your mac book such bad timing in terms of value.

Even if you don't want to buy the new model, the model you just bought will drop in price by at least 10-20% (within 3 to 4 weeks from now). You are right at that point when you pay full price for what will be considered last years model in a couple of weeks.

If it doesn't matter, then just enjoy it and again congratulations! but if you're asking if you are going to pissed if you see this model cheaper in a couple of weeks, I'm just trying to give you an honest answer. Yes.


oh noez i don't gotz the new model! my career is overrrz!


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-24-2008 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
oh noez i don't gotz the new model! my career is overrrz!


I nose wot yoo iz sayin, butz eye iz jus staytin da troof.
I can has a new imac.


Posted by dj_shiftie on Aug-24-2008 23:48:

Recording

I had a question about mac and instead of making a new thread ill just ask here in hopes of some feed back

i also just purchased a new Macbook pro its freakishly awesome i love it, my question is what is a good App to use to record my mixes?

any input is appreciated


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-25-2008 00:43:

Re: Recording

quote:
Originally posted by dj_shiftie
I had a question about mac and instead of making a new thread ill just ask here in hopes of some feed back

i also just purchased a new Macbook pro its freakishly awesome i love it, my question is what is a good App to use to record my mixes?

any input is appreciated


Audacity is free, it does the job but I hate how budget it looks and feels. I got hold of bias peak and that works nicely, with a good interface and some great options for editing etc.. It's the closest thing I can find to wavelab, which sadly is PC only.


Posted by dj_shiftie on Aug-25-2008 02:05:

thanks bro


Posted by Ryan0751 on Aug-25-2008 11:20:

Sound Studio Pro


Posted by sgillespie on Aug-25-2008 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Would it be inappropriate to say: Once you try Mac - you never go back?


Not so much mac as it is having the control of a unix-like os; But I've had that problem for a long time. I can't stand to use windows anymore, and now I've got 2 linux machines and a mac-mini.


Posted by miamitranceman on Aug-26-2008 00:28:

Re: Recording

quote:
Originally posted by dj_shiftie
I had a question about mac and instead of making a new thread ill just ask here in hopes of some feed back

i also just purchased a new Macbook pro its freakishly awesome i love it, my question is what is a good App to use to record my mixes?

any input is appreciated


You could also try Audio Hijack Pro. Good stuff.


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