TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Music Producers Promotion
-- Glassball - Computer Control [full on psytrance]

Glassball - Computer Control [full on psytrance]

I've never thought my tracks were good enough for sharing until now. I still feel like a beginner. There's still sounds I dont know how to make (like the good ol' rubber gum sound).

This latest track I'm working on is called Computer Control. I'd really appreciate some critiques on it so I can improve. I use Cubase SX3.

Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bl1e3e


EDIT: Don't mind the ending, still working on this track.

This is awesome, no need to change it much.

Tighten up the drums at the 2:00 minute mark so they are more of a "snap" sound than a "clang" and you will have a winner in my eyes!

Also, the trancey melody sounds around the 4:00 minute mark have a tad too much reverb on them. I'd pull this back a bit if it was my track.

The build ups are nice, the bass line is excellent and the production value overall is very pleasing.

Finished version please!

Bump.

Finished version please, I really like this.

I don't really like psy, but this is good.

the intro is neat, but the entrance of the kick can have a lot more power to it... also that bass i feel is a little bit old... the vocal samples could use more effects on... the small lead is starting a bit boring but then it turns to a cool riff, i really liked it (the second riff not the first one), but then comes some sort of a break and the synths sound really uninspired to me tho the beats and stuff around sounds good, again the entrance can be a lot stronger with more investments there... from there i feel like it just goes until the third lead comes in which is much more complex and interesting but i still would have made lots of changes to it to sound more computarized and with a really short tail...

so in conclusion you percussions are great and beat sequencing is really good, it just the sound design and transitions that bothered me, keep at it, all the best!

quote:

Originally posted by Beat Blog Also, the trancey melody sounds around the 4:00 minute mark have a tad too much reverb on them. I'd pull this back a bit if it was my track.

Thanks, I'll make sure to check the reverb on that later.

quote:

Originally posted by Vortex_SA the intro is neat, but the entrance of the kick can have a lot more power to it... also that bass i feel is a little bit old... the vocal samples could use more effects on... the small lead is starting a bit boring but then it turns to a cool riff, i really liked it (the second riff not the first one), but then comes some sort of a break and the synths sound really uninspired to me tho the beats and stuff around sounds good, again the entrance can be a lot stronger with more investments there... from there i feel like it just goes until the third lead comes in which is much more complex and interesting but i still would have made lots of changes to it to sound more computarized and with a really short tail... so in conclusion you percussions are great and beat sequencing is really good, it just the sound design and transitions that bothered me, keep at it, all the best!

Thanks for the in depth critique. I've already tried to power up that intro kick before you even commented on this track lol. I will go back and check again though.

What did you mean by "that bass is a little bit old?" Like old as in 2004/05 sounding (as opposed to 2008)??

Not really sure what to do with the voice samples, but I agree, they could use some tweaking, thanks.

Lastly, the transitions. Your referring to the strength of the opening kick?


Thanks everyone for all the comments.

I just wanted to say this is absolutely superb. If this is the standard of the stuff on the producer's forum here (I haven't checked it for a while), I'm very very impressed.

The prodution on this one is lovely and tight, and incredibly punchy. The bassline is the track's best feature for me: beautifully programmed and cuts through the mix beautifully. Not sure about some of the synths but it's a personal preference only and they certainly don't detract from the track too greatly.

Congratulations mate: you should be very proud.

quote:

Originally posted by Glassball Thanks, I'll make sure to check the reverb on that later. Thanks for the in depth critique. I've already tried to power up that intro kick before you even commented on this track lol. I will go back and check again though. What did you mean by "that bass is a little bit old?" Like old as in 2004/05 sounding (as opposed to 2008)?? Not really sure what to do with the voice samples, but I agree, they could use some tweaking, thanks. Lastly, the transitions. Your referring to the strength of the opening kick? Thanks everyone for all the comments.

transitions between parts, like when adding a hihat or something, you can make it very interesting if you want.

regarding the bass line it just has been done so many times in psy trance and i feel you can use a more original bass than that, but if that is what you like so be it...

bout the vox, try adding some pitch shifting mixed 50 precent wet to it, it usually gives a nice psychedelic feel to it.

quote:

Originally posted by Vortex_SA regarding the bass line it just has been done so many times in psy trance and i feel you can use a more original bass than that, but if that is what you like so be it...

I think the bass line is the best bit.

I listen to full-on almost exclusively, yet I found this bass line quite unique and memorable.

Yes, the bass-line does sound over done, I hear this kind of bass-line nearly all full-on trance tracks. Also, the guitars in U2 songs are old and over tone, and so are those rhythmic styles of singing I hear in hip-hop songs. My point, that bassline is what makes this genre of music. You're not going to tell a rock band to stop using guitar power chords cause the are overdone. We do this sound cause it rocks....ANYWAY


Good track, you need to finish it, and it be really freaking cool if at some point, for a transition, you take the entire mix of the song and put it through a filter, like a high pass, then right at the next bar slam everything back in. Do that!

quote:

Originally posted by Frost-RAVEN Yes, the bass-line does sound over done, I hear this kind of bass-line nearly all full-on trance tracks. Also, the guitars in U2 songs are old and over tone, and so are those rhythmic styles of singing I hear in hip-hop songs. My point, that bassline is what makes this genre of music. You're not going to tell a rock band to stop using guitar power chords cause the are overdone. We do this sound cause it rocks....ANYWAY

this sort of bassline is not the definition of the genre, i'm sorry but ive been in the psytrance scene in the past long enough to know and recognize trends, and this is one of them, i know its most popular right now but it doesnt have to be like this, im only suggesting...

Love it. It has a retro psy sound to it that I really enjoy.
Good work! Ready for the labels in my opinion....

quote:

Originally posted by Frost-RAVEN Good track, you need to finish it, and it be really freaking cool if at some point, for a transition, you take the entire mix of the song and put it through a filter, like a high pass, then right at the next bar slam everything back in. Do that!

That is exactly what I want to do! But I still don't know Cubase well enough to do that.


About the bassline. After doing it, i realized it was similar to another track, and I thought that maybe I should change it more. But with the millions of psytrance tracks out there, there will always be a similar sounding bassline out there, so I decided to keep it. I decided to keep it not because it may be "popular sounding", but just cause it sounds great.

@ Vortex_SA, I've heard a lot of psytrance in my life (its all I listen to / spin), but I've never heard more than one track with a similar bassline as mine. So I was kinda surprised when you said it sounded "old". Nonetheless, I appreciate your honesty

quote:

Originally posted by Glassball That is exactly what I want to do! But I still don't know Cubase well enough to do that. About the bassline. After doing it, i realized it was similar to another track, and I thought that maybe I should change it more. But with the millions of psytrance tracks out there, there will always be a similar sounding bassline out there, so I decided to keep it. I decided to keep it not because it may be "popular sounding", but just cause it sounds great. @ Vortex_SA, I've heard a lot of psytrance in my life (its all I listen to / spin), but I've never heard more than one track with a similar bassline as mine. So I was kinda surprised when you said it sounded "old". Nonetheless, I appreciate your honesty

So dont mind me mate

Here is how you filter your entire mix.

Just bounce out four bar phrase or two maybe... Then bring that back in to cubase. Treat it like it's a sample. You can filter the whole mix easy that way.

quote:

Originally posted by Frost-RAVEN Here is how you filter your entire mix. Just bounce out four bar phrase or two maybe... Then bring that back in to cubase. Treat it like it's a sample. You can filter the whole mix easy that way.

I know how to apply filter, but I don't know how to progressivly apply filtering over a span of 4 bars for example.

hey its good

pretty cool! the breaks bit is nice, i dont remember hearing much of that in psy trance stuff. nice

good track...

maybe make it a little longer though

We demand the finished version!! Well, maybe they don't... but I do!!

quote:

Originally posted by Domesticated Bump. Finished version please, I really like this.

quote:

Originally posted by Beat Blog

I've been steadily working on it. I've added a whole nother melody and buildup at the end. Tried to make the snare more snappy on the breaks. Added a few modulation effects to my leads. Fixed up a little bass clashing.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.