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Posted by Rose on Aug-29-2008 18:47:

Thumbs down Comcast is going to limit broadband usage

quote:
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Comcast Corp, the largest U.S. cable operator, said on Thursday it will cap customers' Internet usage starting October 1, in a bid to ensure the best service for the vast majority of its subscribers.
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Comcast said it was setting a monthly data usage threshold of 250 gigabytes per account for all residential high-speed Internet customers, or the equivalent of 50 million e-mails or 124 standard-definition movies.

"If a customer exceeds more than 250 GB and is one of the heaviest data users who consume the most data on our high-speed Internet service, he or she may receive a call from Comcast's Customer Security Assurance (CSA) group to notify them of excessive use," according to the company's updated Frequently Asked Questions on Excessive Use.

Customers who top 250 GB in a month twice in a six-month timeframe could have service terminated for a year.

Comcast said up to 99 percent of its 14 million Internet subscribers would not be affected by the new threshold, which it said would help ensure the quality of Internet delivery is not degraded by a minority of heavy users.

U.S. Internet subscribers are typically not aware of any limit on their Internet usage once they sign up to pay a flat monthly fee to their service provider.

As Web usage has rocketed, driven by the popularity of watching online video, photo-sharing and music downloading services, cable and phone companies have been considering various techniques to limit or manage heavy usage.

But Comcast has come under fire from a variety of sources for its network management techniques.

The U.S. Federal Communications Commission investigated complaints by consumer groups that it was blocking peer-to-peer applications like BitTorrent, and earlier this month ordered Comcast to modify its network management.

Comcast has said that by the end of the year it will change its network management practices to ensure all Web traffic is treated essentially the same, but has also been exploring other ways to prevent degradation of its Internet service delivery.

One consumer group said while Comcast's new 250 GB limit was "relatively high," it could eventually ensnare customers as technology progresses.

"If Comcast has oversold their network to the point of creating congestion problems, then well-disclosed caps for Internet use are a better short-term solution than Comcast's current practice of illegally blocking Internet traffic," said S Derek Turner of Free Press, a Washington, D.C.-based consumer advocacy group that filed a complaint about Comcast's network management practices earlier this year.

The Philadelphia-based company is not alone in trying to come up with ways to limit heavy Internet usage.

Time Warner Cable Inc, the second-largest U.S. cable operator, said in January it would run a trial of billing Internet subscribers based on usage rather than a flat fee.

Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas said Comcast was also considering so-called consumption-based billing, but no decisions had been made.




http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080829...ast_internet_dc


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-29-2008 18:52:

Dont use comcast.


Posted by tubularbills on Aug-29-2008 18:53:

ha ha! ******s!!!


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Aug-29-2008 18:54:

yea I was reading that a little while ago. I think that;s going to backfire in their face. They should not have over sold what they can handle. When they lose a hge customer base, they will have to drop the limit. Ridiculous and illegal.


Posted by _Nut_ on Aug-29-2008 18:58:

How many people can honestly say they surpass 250 GIGS a month?


Posted by wotyzoid on Aug-29-2008 18:59:

C0r Version?


Posted by tubularbills on Aug-29-2008 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
How many people can honestly say they surpass 250 GIGS a month?


lots of pron man. lots of pron


Posted by PatMcGroin on Aug-29-2008 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
How many people can honestly say they surpass 250 GIGS a month?


*raises hand*

edit: well actually... maybe not.


Posted by Rose on Aug-29-2008 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
C0r Version?




c0r version: read the article, it's not that long


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-29-2008 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
How many people can honestly say they surpass 250 GIGS a month?
gaming, music downloads, porn, porn, porn, porn, gaming, music downloads, homework to turn in, porn, porn, gaming, gaming, gaming + porn + music download, porn, porn, porn = more than the limit.


Posted by _Nut_ on Aug-29-2008 19:19:

250 gigs a month? That is still an absurd amount. That is 60 game ISO's - 20,000 + High Bit rate songs .... a penis bleeding amount of porn...

I think they are just trying to stop the biggest of big file sharers. Bravo for that. If it was 25 gigs a month cap - I could easily see and argue with your cause for alarm.. but FFS this is a fucking huge amount of bandwidth.


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-29-2008 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
a penis bleeding amount of porn...

Yes it is


Honestly i dont care, i dont have comcast..... but i agree its alot of use. Maybe if you keep torrents open all day every day or something? i dunno.


Posted by Ian on Aug-29-2008 19:32:

Welcome to most UK ISPs!


Posted by Protege on Aug-29-2008 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Ridiculous and illegal.


How is it illegal exactly?


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Aug-29-2008 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Protege
How is it illegal exactly?


It's illegal for an ISP to filter or sniff what u do with data transfers.


Posted by Sunsnail on Aug-29-2008 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Protege
How is it illegal exactly?


It's not. I think if comcast called me to say "sorry sir but you've exceeded the 250GB limit." i'd say "ok I'd like to cancel my subscription"


Posted by THE_Chris on Aug-29-2008 20:55:

Diddums.

Just about all internet is capped here (mine isnt, but fair usage says about 400gb).

There are 7mb internet services here capped at 30gb.
Most caps are between 40-60. Some are 10gb.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Aug-29-2008 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
It's not. I think if comcast called me to say "sorry sir but you've exceeded the 250GB limit." i'd say "ok I'd like to cancel my subscription"


Exactly.

If they are just going to terminate your service anyway, may as well hit em where it hurts and not give them anymore of your money.


Posted by hooknife on Aug-29-2008 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
How many people can honestly say they surpass 250 GIGS a month?


I can.


Posted by spanglo on Aug-29-2008 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
250 gigs a month? That is still an absurd amount.


250 is good amount, but downloading HD movies will eat up bandwidth in a hurry - they average 8GB each. Full seasons of tv shows in HD run about 25GB. I routinely destroy my measly 60GB cap in a week.


Posted by bigsnail on Aug-29-2008 21:24:

i wish i still had comcast. i have time warner now and they suck big balls


Posted by Jean-luc on Aug-29-2008 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Diddums.

Just about all internet is capped here (mine isnt, but fair usage says about 400gb).

There are 7mb internet services here capped at 30gb.
Most caps are between 40-60. Some are 10gb.


GUYS, GUYS. OTHER COUNTRIES DO THIS, THAT MAKES IT OK. ISP's AREN'T DOING ANYTHING ETHICALLY WRONG.

Listen, this is WRONG. All major ISP's teeter on the line between legal and illegal daily. Hell, they give the government your information without warrants (But since you aren't a terrorist, THAT MAKES IT OK, Right?)

We used to care. I used to remember when things like net neutrality was at the forefront of the internet nerd crusade. Everything is turning to shit. I will personally exceed 250gb/mo in protest of this bullshit. Fucking comcast. Fucking verizon (Worst on invasion of privacy)

fuck this shit


Posted by kr00t0n on Aug-29-2008 21:36:

At around 8.5GB a day, I think I would sit comfortably just under that cap, seems alright to me.

If they mean two-way traffic, then it gets a bit harsher.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Aug-29-2008 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
It's illegal for an ISP to filter or sniff what u do with data transfers.


I believe they can be pressured by certain agencies to attain warrants to understand why exactly you are downloading "200,000 videos worth of youtube videos" every week with the suspicion that you are distributing Diakatana warez, Epic Movie pirate rips or bootlegs of the OJ Simpson If I Did It book.

"you should not worry if you have nothing to hide" I suppose would be their defense.


Posted by Gauss on Aug-29-2008 21:42:

But yeah, seriously, who uses over 250 GB of traffic a month?
Me and my brother are sharing connection and we had 1 TB of traffic in 2007 (most of it being download, less being upload).
Single person doing 1/4 of that in 12 times shorter time frame is just way over the top.


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