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Posted by dj_mind-x on May-27-2002 13:03:

EQ's - What first??

what do u do as first when u have both faders on Volume 100 % ?

u first turning HI MI LO ?
or just one of them?
lemme know
thx! byebye

Posted by YuVaL on May-27-2002 18:20:

yah i've been wondering the same

Posted by Martin McG on May-27-2002 18:28:

its p[ersonal preference really!

i usually have the incoming track
bass 1/2 way down
mid 1/2 way down
hi normal

if you have phrased the records proerly then just quickly swap the basses from (outgoing)normal to half and (incoming) from half to normal and then just slowly fade in the mids and fade out the outgoing track!

harder than i thought to explain but hope you know what i mean and hope it helps

Posted by Scorchio on May-27-2002 19:30:

Depends on you, changes between various DJs,
Normally it goes a litte something like this:

Incoming track in same volium as outgoing, EQ all the way off, start by pumping a little bit of bass, turn a little Hi and Mid, start fading out the outgoings bass ans simultaniously raise the incoming bass, making it seamless, then do the same with the Hi and Mid frequencies, try to stay as close as you can to +1 DB, stick to this method and you will get smooth mixing.
Of course, try to figure out new ways and methods, dont mix the same all the time.
Good luck

Posted by Acid Circus on May-27-2002 19:51:

Depends on musical style, length of time available for mix in and creativity really.

My bog standard smooth mix is mainly as follows.

Incoming:

Bass 25% (I have all eq's set to 50% in MOST cases)
Mids 40% or 50% depending on tracks
Highs 50%

Slowly bring up volume as you do so use judgement to slowly drop down outgoing bass, this will keep volume pretty constant. Also use gain to slowly knock off small amounts of volume in outgoing while still bringing in incoming track. Once volume of incoming is full bass should have been slowly adjusted to 50%, if not then do so in most creative way depending on tracks. Drop volume of outgoing track slowly plus bass of outgoing.

That is a bog standard mix in my opinion and it varies depending on the tracks and how the lows sound over one another. Some cases I have bass of incoming set to 50% and drop outgoing bass as I bring in incoming tracks volume. But try to be creative, sometimes slamming in tracks is impressive, sometimes its good just to do a few smooth mixes together to keep the flow going. Experience and practise will help in these areas.

Posted by Dj Zinni on May-29-2002 03:51:

I have just noticed that people always ask questions like mixing is an exact science. Basically if you want to learn Eq's experament, and see what sounds good. When you can you stop concentrating and just feel the music your mixes will improve 100 fold. I think the technical aspect of mixing can really make people forget that this is music and it has to have life!

I hope that helps some, I know it doesn't really answer your question

Posted by P4z! on May-29-2002 23:31:

About the Gain, I've almost never used it, I have it on 100% all the time, do u guys have it on like 50%, 75% or what?

Posted by YuVaL on May-30-2002 09:46:

gain is not an EQ... the gain basiclly helps u match the volume of the 2 tracks so one track wont be higher/lower then the other track

Posted by Davidus on May-30-2002 15:19:

This is kinda on a related subject. Do you most of you guys keep the cross fader in the middle and only use the gains and EQs? Or do most of you actually slide the crossfader and adjust accordingly with the EQs for the transition? I use the second method, but i want to learn more about the first.
Any thoughts would be nice.......

Posted by Great Outdoors on May-30-2002 17:15:

My crossfader is perpetually in the middle.

As for EQ technique, I tend to bring in the highs of the incoming one first(without first doing anything to the outgoing EQs) for 8 beats, slowly push in the mids to 25% for a further 8 or 24 beats, then swap the bass of the 2 tracks in a swift 8-beat. From then on it would just be a matter of slowly increasing the incoming mid to 50% (normal level) and fading out the rest.

Posted by Dj Flesch on Jun-06-2002 01:57:

I keep it simple. I keep the crossfader in the middle and I use the channel volume sliders to mix. I have the live track at 100% and the cue at 0% until I'm ready to mix in. Then at the end of the last major phrase of the live track I will push the cue volume up to about 90% and drop the bass on the live track just a slight hair. Then I switch the volumes so that the cue track is 100% and the live track is 90%. At this point the major phrase of the cue track should be live and the transition is in the middle! Then I fade out the old live track. The speed depends on what the new live track is doing.

Posted by zapper on Jun-06-2002 22:06:

First off, I almost never use the crossfader, I just set the mixing mode on my DJM-300 to "Channel Faders". Good feature btw, since it's very easy to accidentally touch the crossfader when you're mixing.

When it comes to EQ control, I do it differently on every track. I just turn what I feel is right. Lately what I've done when bringing in a new track, is to slam the tune in at max volume on the channel fader, but with appropriate eq settings (depends on the track, sometimes almost at "kill" volumes, other times near max on everything but the bass), then adjust eq's & volume on both channels (sometimes gradually, but most of the time adjusting after maybe 8 or 16 beats, making a more progressive mix) until the transition is complete.

This works really great for me. But of course, everyone develops their own style. If it sounds good, it is good mixing, no matter how you do it. I've seen DJs in clubs manipulating the vinyls in extremely strange ways when doing back-cuing, me, I just rock it back and forth with one finger and then let go with a little push (depending on the weigth and friction of the record). Of course it nice to look cool, but I guess that is something you do when you have been playing for a long time and want to show off a bit.