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Posted by Lira on Sep-05-2008 17:58:

Aesthetics, pride and identity

I was thinking about it this morning, and Jamie's comment on fake boobs convinced me this is definitely COR material. Well, the question is: what can be flattering about yourself?
quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
boobs u can buy/fix. but when it comes to killer stems and ass...that's just a gift from god you can't duplicate

If someone compliments you on something you cannot change, can you really be flattered by that comment? Why, or why not?

Personally, I don't think so. Although it is nice not to be seen as a hideous monster, there's little merit in being beautiful, it seems. You can try to look better, but you almost always need to rely on your body - if you can burn fat easily, it's not hard to have a nice stomach, for example. And, if you're religious, it makes even less sense: if you're your soul (rather than your body), can you be flattered by any comments on your body? It's not really yours, so to speak, and can't even lend it if you want: you can do someone else a favour (which is like "lending your body" in a way) or you can let your body be used by someone else (which is yet another way of "lending your body", albeit a non-Christian one). But only you know what it feels like to raise your arm.

Thoughts?


Posted by elFreak on Sep-05-2008 18:00:

if i buy a pair of jeans and they look good on me, is it a problem if i receive a compliment?

if i bought tits it would just be more awesome.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-05-2008 18:03:

I agree. Seems more reasonable to have pride in what you've done rather than in what you are by birth.

Of course, what you are by birth determines to some extent what you can do in life, and it can take work to maintain the good things that you have by birth, so it gets tricky.


Posted by Project-K on Sep-05-2008 18:51:

You can't fix boobs, you can just patch them up, and very obviousely so.


Posted by Zoso on Sep-05-2008 18:53:

I'll take any compliment I can get, plain and simple. They're just good for the ego/soul.

Now, do I actually believe 90% of them? Hell no.


Posted by The17sss on Sep-05-2008 18:56:

makes me think of when people get all excited about their birthdays. When it's my birthday and people are like "congratulations!" "Happy Birthday!".... I think to myself, why do people congratulate others on the day they were born, as if they had any say in the matter? It's not really an accomplishment or anything.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-05-2008 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
makes me think of when people get all excited about their birthdays. When it's my birthday and people are like "congratulations!" "Happy Birthday!".... I think to myself, why do people congratulate others on the day they were born, as if they had any say in the matter? It's not really an accomplishment or anything.

The "congratulations" is about having lived another year, not about having been born on a specific date.

Not that simply staying alive is a huge accomplishment for a young person in a modern society, but whatever.


Posted by Zoso on Sep-05-2008 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
makes me think of when people get all excited about their birthdays. When it's my birthday and people are like "congratulations!" "Happy Birthday!".... I think to myself, why do people congratulate others on the day they were born, as if they had any say in the matter? It's not really an accomplishment or anything.


True. It is, however, a good time to congratulate the old man on having gotten laid at some point.


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-05-2008 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
I'll take any compliment I can get, plain and simple. They're just good for the ego/soul.

Now, do I actually believe 90% of them? Hell no.


This is such a great attitude to have. You really are a great person.

muhahahahahahahaha!!!


Posted by Zoso on Sep-05-2008 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
This is such a great attitude to have. You really are a great person.

muhahahahahahahaha!!!


Iz ewe being facetious?


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-05-2008 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
Iz ewe being facetious?



Posted by The17sss on Sep-05-2008 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The "congratulations" is about having lived another year, not about having been born on a specific date.

Not that simply staying alive is a huge accomplishment for a young person in a modern society, but whatever.



Hmmmm... interesting point of view. Zoso too.


Posted by diesel_tron3000 on Sep-05-2008 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
makes me think of when people get all excited about their birthdays. When it's my birthday and people are like "congratulations!" "Happy Birthday!".... I think to myself, why do people congratulate others on the day they were born, as if they had any say in the matter? It's not really an accomplishment or anything.


yeah right but it's nice to get presents and useless shite.

there's only so much your 'de facto' traits like beauty or strength can get you. in the end it's all about your wits and your intelligence and not giving a shit when some blond chick doesn't dig you because you don't have stretch marks on your traps and biceps


Posted by Jake Benson on Sep-05-2008 20:19:

Re: Aesthetics, pride and identity

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
If someone compliments you on something you cannot change, can you really be flattered by that comment? Why, or why not?


Yes. I am flattered because the compliment is more often than not part of their underlying sexual attraction or appreciation towards me, which reinforces the notion that I've inherited certain physical qualities that will increase my chances of producing offspring and continuing on my genes...or at least increase my chances of getting laid. That's all I really want.


Posted by winston on Sep-05-2008 20:23:

Re: Re: Aesthetics, pride and identity

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Yes. I am flattered because the compliment is more often than not part of their underlying sexual attraction or appreciation towards me, which reinforces the notion that I've inherited certain physical qualities that will increase my chances of producing offspring and continuing on my genes...or at least increase my chances of getting laid. That's all I really want.


omg i thought you hated women?

are you into the pussy now?

yay!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-05-2008 20:30:

Pride? Ego? There's also such a thing as grace...which is why I say, who gives a fucking shit? If someone sends a compliment my way, whether I feel I deserve it or not, I simply smile and say "thank you".

Look how stupid intelligence has made you, Lira. Lololololol.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-05-2008 20:33:

I think the issue was "How do you feel about the compliment?", not "How do you respond to it?"


Posted by winston on Sep-05-2008 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie

Look how stupid intelligence has made you, Lira. Lololololol.




that was great.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-05-2008 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I think the issue was "How do you feel about the compliment?", not "How do you respond to it?"



Yeah, and I answered it.


Posted by Gauss on Sep-05-2008 21:52:

I like getting compliments, plain and simple.
Whether it's something I was born with or something I worked for, they make me feel better and boost my ego (not that I have self confidence problems, it's quite on the contrary).
Besides, it means you've probably left a good impression on a person, which can't be bad.
People don't give compliments to people they don't like.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-05-2008 22:26:

i'm fine getting compliments. i always say "thanks" with a big smile.


as far as getting complimented on things i can't change...i've been complimented on my freckles a lot, even by guys who generally don't like freckles. they said i'm one of the rare sexy freckles type. makes me feel good


Posted by winston on Sep-06-2008 00:06:

I like girls with freckles ...


Posted by SkyHigh on Sep-06-2008 01:12:

Re: Re: Aesthetics, pride and identity

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Yes. I am flattered because the compliment is more often than not part of their underlying sexual attraction or appreciation towards me, which reinforces the notion that I've inherited certain physical qualities that will increase my chances of producing offspring and continuing on my genes...or at least increase my chances of getting laid. That's all I really want.


Aren't you gay?



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