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Posted by krzyk on Sep-08-2008 02:47:

Vocal Software

im editing vocals right now and im looking for a vst or software to make them sound better as well with effects. any suggestions?


Posted by cryophonik on Sep-08-2008 04:15:

You'll need to be more specific. How are you editing the vocals? Why do they need to "sound better" - what is the problem that you're having? What do you mean by "...sound better as well with effects?"


Posted by kitphillips on Sep-08-2008 08:12:

You need the DJ sammy vocal plugin. Or talent. Maybe the second one.


Posted by kopi_luwak on Sep-09-2008 15:41:

It sounds more like you are looking for a plugin with Presets for vocals. Have been there, done that, and unfortunately, vocals are one of the most complicated things to learn to mixdown properly in the begin. The quality of the recording, colour of the singer, etc, can change so much from one singer to other, plus for the genre you have plans to use it, etc, that you will have to be very versatile. The only thing I could tell you is, experience is the key, trial and error.

Kopi =o.


Posted by BOOsTER on Sep-09-2008 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
colour of the singer, etc,



Posted by glsmaster on Sep-09-2008 20:03:

Well, melodyne plugin helps a lot.


Posted by kopi_luwak on Sep-09-2008 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER


Vocal colour noob .

Kopi =o.


Posted by spolitta on Sep-09-2008 22:22:

Re: Vocal Software

quote:
Originally posted by krzyk
im editing vocals right now and im looking for a vst or software to make them sound better as well with effects. any suggestions?


Use a Mac, PCs make the vocals sound unprofessional.


Posted by echosystm on Sep-10-2008 00:36:

Re: Re: Vocal Software

quote:
Originally posted by spolitta
Use a Mac, PCs make the vocals sound unprofessional.



Posted by csfp on Sep-10-2008 07:33:

Re: Re: Vocal Software

quote:
Originally posted by spolitta
Use a Mac, PCs make the vocals sound unprofessional.


True

I agree on Melodyne, check out the Celemony website. Its not cheap but well worth the price.


Posted by kitphillips on Sep-10-2008 09:34:

quote:
Originally posted by glsmaster
Well, melodyne plugin helps a lot.


That very much depends on what you need... Maybe he's talking about compression or EQ? or reverb and Delay? We have no idea. And I doubt hes even going to respond. So who cares?
Aside from which, theres already a whole thread on vocal tricks and FX the lazy bugger hasn't even read, and he clearly has no idea what hes doing. So he still needs talent even if he buys melodyne - unless they're doing package deal now?


Posted by discobiscuit on Sep-10-2008 10:12:

Gsnap is a free vst plugin. I just got it and its amazing. It's a knock off of perfect pitch. Google and utube it. Pm me for tips or questions.


Posted by glsmaster on Sep-10-2008 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Maybe he's talking about compression or EQ?


Yes, I thought that too. But in most cases when voice is just turned out of the pitch, out of key... no matter how perfectly you adjust the voice processing it, eq it, and tweaking it. It always will sound poor and unnatural.

And as Kopi said, it depends on a lot of factors. He is asking for a Vocal software, so melodyne helps a lot in the process since it just about vocals. Other things will be processors VST's or something else.

Voice is the main instrument in many tracks, the common problem is in the final mix, we should remember that it must have its own spectrum space and so we need to cutoff certain frequencies, but very carefully. Trial & Error.

Try Sonalksis SV-517, is a great eq, I've used in some voices and it always bring some bright to them.


Posted by kitphillips on Sep-10-2008 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by glsmaster
Yes, I thought that too. But in most cases when voice is just turned out of the pitch, out of key... no matter how perfectly you adjust the voice processing it, eq it, and tweaking it. It always will sound poor and unnatural.

And as Kopi said, it depends on a lot of factors. He is asking for a Vocal software, so melodyne helps a lot in the process since it just about vocals. Other things will be processors VST's or something else.

Voice is the main instrument in many tracks, the common problem is in the final mix, we should remember that it must have its own spectrum space and so we need to cutoff certain frequencies, but very carefully. Trial & Error.

Try Sonalksis SV-517, is a great eq, I've used in some voices and it always bring some bright to them.


Heh, I disagree with you actually...
Pitch isn't everything, sometimes you don't need perfect pitch. Good tone counts for a lot more in most cases, and you can GENTLY nudge some off notes back on. At some point you do become better with a complete retake though its true.
Melodyne doesn't just do vocals BTW, its actually SUPPOSED to be a full DAW, it just happens to have amazing time/pitch manipulation.
I also really disagree about vocal eqing, I find it quite important to avoid EQ as much as possible, using more than 3 DB gives a very unnatural sound, and I think its important to keep the Q as wise as possible (unless removing something specific). But I'm sure it depends on your purpose and voice type.
I do love sonalksis too, not sure its neccesary for this, but its a pleasure to use.


Posted by krzyk on Sep-10-2008 21:33:

Thanks for the replies i was pretty much looking for types of software and vst's and the replies have helped, thanks again


Posted by spolitta on Sep-10-2008 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by krzyk
and the replies have helped, thanks again


You're welcome.


Posted by discobiscuit on Sep-11-2008 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by krzyk
Thanks for the replies i was pretty much looking for types of software and vst's and the replies have helped, thanks again


you really gotta check out gsnap



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