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Posted by Clovis on Sep-10-2008 00:57:

Beatportal on LA Techno

http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item...ce-music-crown/



We had a beatport reporter amidst us this weekend, and he's delivered a pretty awesome report on his experience!


Posted by Bob_Motamedi on Sep-10-2008 01:14:

Fuck Techno......


Posted by Lomeli on Sep-10-2008 01:23:

It's official. I am now looking for rent in LA. SB has nothing compared to you guys. This is a calling.

Good to see Droid getting a mention.


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Sep-10-2008 01:34:

nice read


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Sep-10-2008 03:39:

damn it clovis, you beat me to it!

i deleted the other one i had made.


Posted by fury on Sep-10-2008 03:44:

Now that is fucking cool.


Posted by skell on Sep-10-2008 04:21:

Saw this earlier in my GReader. Good article. Grats Thrax on the photo creds.


Posted by R!CH on Sep-10-2008 04:27:

i've been telling people that i think the standard is one of the best models for a day party venue and i've been looking at spots to do something similar around here - the hilton downtown has a rooftop pool but it's surrounded by more floors on all sides, the paramount building has one, but not enough space for a party, the palace has one, but it's enclosed. i'm also positive that last weekend's party was a monster.

but on balance... this guy vacations in la for a weekend and stops in on what was probably the best party all year, then asserts that la's scene is better than everywhere else he's never been to? that's reaching even for an op-ed piece. it would have been easier to digest the storytelling of his trip (which i enjoyed) had he not suggested that la, nyc and detroit are all america's dance scene is worth and thus la takes the crown. maybe la does have the best scene (its certainly one of the best), but i doubt this guy really knows. he certainly hasn't made the argument. his story would have been really good without all the platitude imo.


Posted by |Thrax| on Sep-10-2008 04:29:

Thanks to everyone that furthers this...it be the people, dj's and creators.
COMPRESSION and Droid deserve next in a series of articles.

Nice read, nice choice images. I had no idea until I saw it post.


Posted by dynomite8 on Sep-10-2008 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
i've been telling people that i think the standard is one of the best models for a day party venue and i've been looking at spots to do something similar around here - the hilton downtown has a rooftop pool but it's surrounded by more floors on all sides, the paramount building has one, but not enough space for a party, the palace has one, but it's enclosed. i'm also positive that last weekend's party was a monster.

but on balance... this guy vacations in la for a weekend and stops in on what was probably the best party all year, then asserts that la's scene is better than everywhere else he's never been to? that's reaching even for an op-ed piece. it would have been easier to digest the storytelling of his trip (which i enjoyed) had he not suggested that la, nyc and detroit are all america's dance scene is worth and thus la takes the crown. maybe la does have the best scene (its certainly one of the best), but i doubt this guy really knows. he certainly hasn't made the argument. his story would have been really good without all the platitude imo.



as far as i'm concerned l.a. is this good every weekend. you just have to know where to go. i would say there were a couple weekends in august that were even better.


Posted by R!CH on Sep-10-2008 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by dynomite8
as far as i'm concerned l.a. is this good every weekend. you just have to know where to go. i would say there were a couple weekends in august that were even better.


that's good to hear, but beside the point. if his article was titled "LA dance music scene alive and well" or "LA dance music scene on a meteoric rise" that's something we could all agree with, but this guy calls himself a music journalist with this kind of writing? it's hard to swallow, for me at least.


Posted by revitalizedbeat on Sep-10-2008 07:08:

nice article.


Posted by SVGmethod on Sep-10-2008 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Lomeli
It's official. I am now looking for rent in LA. SB has nothing compared to you guys. This is a calling.

Good to see Droid getting a mention.



ya dood SB effin sux now for EDM. =(


Posted by SVGmethod on Sep-10-2008 21:24:

this article is great and gives respect to some of the leaders of the new school in LA. I totally agree, these guys are busting their asses trying to put LA back on the world map for techno. They've influenced my sound (podcast) tremendously.


Posted by Lomeli on Sep-10-2008 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by SVGmethod
ya dood SB effin sux now for EDM. =(


Curly, we have to change that. John (Prime Mover) wants to throw an outdoor party. Let's get on it.


Posted by katiekitty on Sep-14-2008 20:45:

The Story Behind The Story

All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature.

After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I�ve learned:

This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction.

The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above.

http://www.InfamousPR.com

The anonymous writer named �Industry Boy� is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article.

I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag�s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue.

These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader.

The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes.

Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen.

Food for thought:

jour�nal�ism -
-noun-
The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

ad�ver�tise�ment
-noun-
A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.


Posted by Rukes on Sep-14-2008 21:05:

Re: The Story Behind The Story

quote:
Originally posted by katiekitty
All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature.

After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I�ve learned:

This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction.

The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above.

http://www.InfamousPR.com

The anonymous writer named �Industry Boy� is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article.

I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag�s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue.

These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader.

The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes.

Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen.

Food for thought:

jour�nal�ism -
-noun-
The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

ad�ver�tise�ment
-noun-
A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.


I think we all pretty much know about all that, although Droog and Kazell didn't "pay" for it. Ali is Avalon's PR person, so he gets PR done Getting attention for Avalon residents is his job, and he did a good job by getting them in Mixmag and Beatportal.

The thing is, you can't make stuff like this up, even if you have a publicist working for you. Droog has been exploding in popularity thanks to Avalon, and Kazell has become even more popular ever since the Sasha & Digweed tour, so the job of the PR person is to say "Hey, check this out, you might want to write about these people".


Posted by |Thrax| on Sep-14-2008 21:29:

Don't be so quick to "jump to conclusions mat"

There is nothing fabricated about the good times, it is a party atmosphere. I should know, I experience and love it; firsthand.

I'm glad people are hearing about it, because they help bring some of the best new talent at the moment, and getting great response.



looks like a good time to me! yea, I was there.
The proper point of PR is to promote and publicize with the general public. If nobody hears about it, you have a bad PR person.

Anyways you look at it, it is a coverage perspective.

Thanks for your charming insight into the inner workings of how a nightclub business works.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-14-2008 23:35:

Re: The Story Behind The Story

quote:
Originally posted by katiekitty
All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature.

After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I�ve learned:

This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction.

The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above.

http://www.InfamousPR.com

The anonymous writer named �Industry Boy� is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article.

I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag�s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue.

These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader.

The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes.

Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen.

Food for thought:

jour�nal�ism -
-noun-
The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

ad�ver�tise�ment
-noun-
A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.



Wow you really are on a smear campaign.

Signed up on TA to post this even though you posted it twice on the article comments? lol


Posted by Electrophile on Sep-15-2008 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by |Thrax|
Don't be so quick to "jump to conclusions mat"


You can actually buy one!



Jump to conclusions mat


Posted by alan on Sep-15-2008 13:52:

Re: The Story Behind The Story

quote:
Originally posted by katiekitty
All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature.

After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I�ve learned:

This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction.

The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above.

http://www.InfamousPR.com

The anonymous writer named �Industry Boy� is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article.

I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag�s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue.

These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader.

The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes.

Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen.

Food for thought:

jour�nal�ism -
-noun-
The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

ad�ver�tise�ment
-noun-
A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.


actually its called an ADVERTORIAL.

I do agree though that there should have been a small disclaimer from the onset, specially since this article will be read quite a lot and some people will not realize that its actually a PR release.

cheers!


Posted by bas on Sep-16-2008 06:21:

Re: The Story Behind The Story

quote:
Originally posted by katiekitty
All readers should be aware of the following concerning this piece of Beatportal literature.

After speaking with anonymous Beatport sources this is what I�ve learned:

This article was technically bought and paid for by Droog, Avalon and Kevin Kazell, which is why it slants so heavily in their direction.

The person responsible for managing this is Ali Duncan of Infamous Public Relations UK, who handles the 3 clients mentioned above.

http://www.InfamousPR.com

The anonymous writer named �Industry Boy� is actually Terry Church, editor of Beatportal who worked with Infamous PR to write the article.

I also found out that a similar occurrence happened recently when Avalon Nightclub paid the expenses of Mixmag�s feature editor Duncan Dick to write a favorable feature about the LA culture in their July issue.

These advertisements disguised as articles are not properly researched or backed by journalistic integrity. They instead favor the clients seeking the attention that choose to flip the bill. Such practices are public knowledge within inner circles yet unbeknownst to the average reader.

The history and opinions of dance music media can be rented for the right price, which you the reader pays for with your eyes.

Take back the trust given and attack the illusion these media outlets rely on. Make change happen.

Food for thought:

jour�nal�ism -
-noun-
The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.

ad�ver�tise�ment
-noun-
A notice, such as a poster or a paid announcement in the print, broadcast, or electronic media, designed to attract public attention or patronage.

PR setting up an interview?! THIS IS MADNESS!


Posted by DaveT on Sep-16-2008 07:27:

From Beatportal

quote:

We had hoped that we wouldn�t have to dignify this attack with a
response, particularly as the reader comments fairly seem to sort this
issue out. However, it seems that KittyKatie wants to make sure this
issue doesn�t die (i.e., reposting it when it fell off the front page
and posting on other sites!) Given her continued efforts to spread
these accusations, we feel a reply is necessary.

KittyKatie is an anonymous poster, whom no one here knows. She has
registered in the last few days for a number of other forums (e.g.,
tranceaddicts, djforums) in order to spread factually inaccurate
comments. Her allegations aren�t based on any facts, but anonymous
sources she won�t reveal and doesn�t cite. Simply put, she can�t
substantiate her misrepresentations, and the facts are otherwise.

Droog, Avalon, and Kazell never, as KittyKaie claims, �technically
paid for this article,� nor have they ever paid a journalist in return
for editorial content. Any accusations otherwise are unsubstantiated,
incorrect and not true. Droog did in fact cover approximately $200 in
hotel costs in order for Beatportal, at their request, to be able to
afford to come out for the weekend to cover the Los Angeles dance
music scene. This was the sole intent of the journalist�s visit, to
provide a near real-time, �embedded� perspective on dance music in Los
Angeles.

Because this was our only intent (as proven by the numerous
introductions/interviews given to many other acts and promoters during
a limited time period), it is upsetting (and frankly petty) that
KittyKatie would rather level cheap shots at those this article
highlights, rather than celebrate the spotlight it gives Los Angeles
as a whole.

To be clear, neither Beatportal nor the journalist received any
payment prior to or following the article. No cash in the pocket, no
advertising fee, no �for $1,000 we will get you a great story.� Droog
had NO input in the editorial content; there was NEVER even a promise
that a piece would be written. In the end, Droog had NO review of
what was to be written, nor did we control the content.

Beatportal�s journalist came out, covered the weekend�s events, and
actually spent the majority of his time on his own agenda, with people
he wanted to interview in L.A. More importantly, this is exactly how
editorial is handled all the time in this industry, and how it has
been handled for years: a club, promoter, DJ, or label wants to get
media coverage of a special night, PR pitches the idea, covers the
expenses, and hopes for a honestly positive piece.

In the end, we never wanted anything more than legitimate exposure for
what we see as a growing, vibrant scene in Los Angeles. The scene has
a rich history going back years, and has been revitalized by a number
of people and crews that we believe make it competitive with the very
best in the world. Would we like Droog to be thought of as a group
pushing this scene further, in hopes of making it even better? Of
course! Do we think that we are single-handedly responsible? No way.
There were a ton of people here before us, and there will be many
more after. We love the music and the city (as we are sure even
Kittykatie does), and are happy that Beatportal perceives it as we do,
an exciting place with its best days ahead of it.


Posted by Junior Chavez on Sep-16-2008 07:32:

Si Se Puede!


Posted by Rukes on Sep-16-2008 08:24:

Re: Re: The Story Behind The Story

quote:
Originally posted by bas
PR setting up an interview?! THIS IS MADNESS!


Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!



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