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(So) I'm about to apply to a couple of Law Schools for an LL.M program. That's like the MBA equivalent for jurists, especially for non-Americans who would like to have some fancy American University added in brackets to their business cards. The available rankings only apply to the "normal" postgradual JD degree, not the 1-year LL.M programs. I guess, however, that top 5 is top 5 no matter what specific studies.

Anybody here been sutdying Law and can share his experience with his school or recommend one? If I'm going for it, it'll be for a renowned one only, not because I'm some filthy rich snob, but because it's one hell of an investment anyway, so it might as well be Ivy League in order to be worth it. I'd also rather go to cities like New York or Chicago to actually enjoy this year, and not to some far away campuses in the middle of nowhere. Would your rather recommend NYU or Columbia quality and fun wise? Is the Univ. of Chicago really that badly located? Where's Berekely exactely? Boobs?

thanks.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant (So) I'm about to apply to a couple of Law Schools for an LL.M program. That's like the MBA equivalent for jurists, especially for non-Americans who would like to have some fancy American University added in brackets to their business cards. The available rankings only apply to the "normal" postgradual JD degree, not the 1-year LL.M programs. I guess, however, that top 5 is top 5 no matter what specific studies. Anybody here been sutdying Law and can share his experience with his school or recommend one? If I'm going for it, it'll be for a renowned one only, not because I'm some filthy rich snob, but because it's one hell of an investment anyway, so it might as well be Ivy League in order to be worth it. I'd also rather go to cities like New York or Chicago to actually enjoy this year, and not to some far away campuses in the middle of nowhere. Would your rather recommend NYU or Columbia quality and fun wise? Is the Univ. of Chicago really that badly located? Where's Berekely exactely? Boobs? thanks.

as far as cities go, you can't go wrong with new york or chicago. you should check out Northwestern. it's in a suburb just north of chicago. never heard of Berekely, but Berkley is in California.

Berkeley = tons of idiot hippies that will ban water when it is called dihydrogen monoxide.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant (So) I'm about to apply to a couple of Law Schools for an LL.M program. That's like the MBA equivalent for jurists, especially for non-Americans who would like to have some fancy American University added in brackets to their business cards. The available rankings only apply to the "normal" postgradual JD degree, not the 1-year LL.M programs. I guess, however, that top 5 is top 5 no matter what specific studies. Anybody here been sutdying Law and can share his experience with his school or recommend one? If I'm going for it, it'll be for a renowned one only, not because I'm some filthy rich snob, but because it's one hell of an investment anyway, so it might as well be Ivy League in order to be worth it. I'd also rather go to cities like New York or Chicago to actually enjoy this year, and not to some far away campuses in the middle of nowhere. Would your rather recommend NYU or Columbia quality and fun wise? Is the Univ. of Chicago really that badly located? Where's Berekely exactely? Boobs? thanks.

from experience:

1) the univ of chicago is in the south side of chicago, which is considered the hood, but the enclave surrounding the university (and the uni itself) is super-nice. there are lots of nice houses and things...barack obama owns a mansion there. its also policed by the university of chicago police, which some consider to be more aggressive than the LAPD. this, i guess, is to keep the UofC a nice place.

2) berkeley is about 10 min from san francisco by car, 20+ min by public transportation.

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Originally posted by PhaseFour from experience: 1) the univ of chicago is in the south side of chicago, which is considered the hood, but the enclave surrounding the university (and the uni itself) is super-nice. there are lots of nice houses and things...barack obama owns a mansion there. its also policed by the university of chicago police, which some consider to be more aggressive than the LAPD. this, i guess, is to keep the UofC a nice place. 2) berkeley is about 10 min from san francisco by car, 20+ min by public transportation.

university of chicago bought up a lot of the land around there and renovated the area. it's actually pretty decent now. the ghetto that was over there got torn down and all the people were relocated to some shithole far away from the city.

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Originally posted by jonze university of chicago bought up a lot of the land around there and renovated the area. it's actually pretty decent now. the ghetto that was over there got torn down and all the people were relocated to some shithole far away from the city.

LOL displacement.

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Originally posted by jonze university of chicago bought up a lot of the land around there and renovated the area. it's actually pretty decent now. the ghetto that was over there got torn down and all the people were relocated to some shithole far away from the city.

yea i was there for a few weeks this summer, the area seems pretty nice nowadays, but take a bus for a few min in the wrong direction, and it seems like a totally different world. i once tried to take CTA trains to the UofC but it runs to other sections of the south side...ill say that was a cultural experience.

NYU's neighborhood (Greenwich Village) is much more fun than Columbia's (Morningside Heights)

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel LOL displacement.

I dunno why I lol'ed so hard at this, but I did.

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Originally posted by jennypie I dunno why I lol'ed so hard at this, but I did.

I will displace your asshole. callme

<3

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Originally posted by PhaseFour from experience: 1) the univ of chicago is in the south side of chicago, which is considered the hood, but the enclave surrounding the university (and the uni itself) is super-nice. there are lots of nice houses and things...barack obama owns a mansion there. its also policed by the university of chicago police, which some consider to be more aggressive than the LAPD. this, i guess, is to keep the UofC a nice place. 2) berkeley is about 10 min from san francisco by car, 20+ min by public transportation.

Who?

Yes, I heard something like that, Univ. of Chicago being a bit remote, while Northwestern is in a very nice area. Nevertheless UofC has got the better reputation, even though it's supposed to be one of the toughest places to study. How's nightlife in general in Chicago? I'm kinda scared of the famous Chicago winds, heard the winters there can come close to Sibirian temperatures

West Coast is not really my first option, I'd rather be within short distance to several big cities in the East and also closer to Europe. I'm generally more of a workaholic metropolitan guy than an easygoing San Fran hippie (hooray to cliches..).

As for NYC, I also read that NYU is right in the heart of students' night life (I think I went out there once, been to some smashing stand-up comedy bar), however it's again the reputation which goes in favor of Columbia.

I think the only other Uni I'd consider would be Georgetown, even though they only offer Tax Law programs which I absolutely detest. Oh and of course Harvard Law School just for the heck of it, like playing the lottery.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Berkeley = tons of idiot hippies that will ban water when it is called dihydrogen monoxide.

You watch Penn & Teller, too, huh?

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Originally posted by Audious You watch Penn & Teller, too, huh?

haha yeah. The funny thing is it is true. If you have ever been to that place you would know that it is a place full of those types.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant (So) I'm about to apply to a couple of Law Schools for an LL.M program. That's like the MBA equivalent for jurists, especially for non-Americans who would like to have some fancy American University added in brackets to their business cards. The available rankings only apply to the "normal" postgradual JD degree, not the 1-year LL.M programs. I guess, however, that top 5 is top 5 no matter what specific studies. Anybody here been sutdying Law and can share his experience with his school or recommend one? If I'm going for it, it'll be for a renowned one only, not because I'm some filthy rich snob, but because it's one hell of an investment anyway, so it might as well be Ivy League in order to be worth it. I'd also rather go to cities like New York or Chicago to actually enjoy this year, and not to some far away campuses in the middle of nowhere. Would your rather recommend NYU or Columbia quality and fun wise? Is the Univ. of Chicago really that badly located? Where's Berekely exactely? Boobs? thanks.

I'm currently at Georgetown Law, and I'm pretty satisfied with it; although I may transfer after this year depending on the circumstances.

As far as NYU and Columbia go... I visited both. I definitely would have gone to Columbia over NYU, but it may be a personal preference. At NYU, when I was with the other admitted students I felt like I was with a group of "children" more so than adults. While that was generally true to some extent at all the schools I visited, I definitely got stronger impression to that effect at NYU than anywhere else except maybe UVA. Depending on what you consider "fun" that may be a good thing or a bad thing -- it definitely wasn't what I was looking for though. I wasn't really big on Columbia either, but that was more just that I had no desire to live in NYC than anything to do with the school. In terms of quality, I don't think there's much of a difference between the two.

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Berkeley = tons of idiot hippies that will ban water when it is called dihydrogen monoxide.

I would expect this from someone who lives in "so cal". Let me guess OC? Who cares if there's some hippies here and there? I would think anyone would be excited graduating from a top-10 law program.

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Originally posted by RickyRoma I would expect this from someone who lives in "so cal". Let me guess OC? Who cares if there's some hippies here and there? I would think anyone would be excited graduating from a top-10 law program.

What a presumptuous statement. Did you ever consider that I could have grown up somewhere else? Oh but wait, you've hardly been on here long enough to see the hundreds of times I have said I am from NorCal, born and raised for the first 19yrs of my life before I moved here. Way to go. Good call there.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I'm currently at Georgetown Law, and I'm pretty satisfied with it; although I may transfer after this year depending on the circumstances. As far as NYU and Columbia go... I visited both. I definitely would have gone to Columbia over NYU, but it may be a personal preference. At NYU, when I was with the other admitted students I felt like I was with a group of "children" more so than adults. While that was generally true to some extent at all the schools I visited, I definitely got stronger impression to that effect at NYU than anywhere else except maybe UVA. Depending on what you consider "fun" that may be a good thing or a bad thing -- it definitely wasn't what I was looking for though. I wasn't really big on Columbia either, but that was more just that I had no desire to live in NYC than anything to do with the school. In terms of quality, I don't think there's much of a difference between the two.

UVA sucks.

dude, just apply to the 'School of Hard-Knocks - Ricky Roma school of Law and Thought' . I heard their original funder started out as a pizza boy in brooknam.

UM dude (University of Miami)

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Who? Yes, I heard something like that, Univ. of Chicago being a bit remote, while Northwestern is in a very nice area. Nevertheless UofC has got the better reputation, even though it's supposed to be one of the toughest places to study. How's nightlife in general in Chicago? I'm kinda scared of the famous Chicago winds, heard the winters there can come close to Sibirian temperatures West Coast is not really my first option, I'd rather be within short distance to several big cities in the East and also closer to Europe. I'm generally more of a workaholic metropolitan guy than an easygoing San Fran hippie (hooray to cliches..). As for NYC, I also read that NYU is right in the heart of students' night life (I think I went out there once, been to some smashing stand-up comedy bar), however it's again the reputation which goes in favor of Columbia. I think the only other Uni I'd consider would be Georgetown, even though they only offer Tax Law programs which I absolutely detest. Oh and of course Harvard Law School just for the heck of it, like playing the lottery.

the nickname 'the windy city' is because the political opinion here changes like the wind, but it does get kind of windy sometimes. winters can be bad but last year it was pretty decent. the chicago nightlife is filled with headband techno and unicorn trance. the nightlife doesn't compare to NYC but it's decent.

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Who? Yes, I heard something like that, Univ. of Chicago being a bit remote, while Northwestern is in a very nice area. Nevertheless UofC has got the better reputation, even though it's supposed to be one of the toughest places to study. How's nightlife in general in Chicago? I'm kinda scared of the famous Chicago winds, heard the winters there can come close to Sibirian temperatures West Coast is not really my first option, I'd rather be within short distance to several big cities in the East and also closer to Europe. I'm generally more of a workaholic metropolitan guy than an easygoing San Fran hippie (hooray to cliches..). As for NYC, I also read that NYU is right in the heart of students' night life (I think I went out there once, been to some smashing stand-up comedy bar), however it's again the reputation which goes in favor of Columbia. I think the only other Uni I'd consider would be Georgetown, even though they only offer Tax Law programs which I absolutely detest. Oh and of course Harvard Law School just for the heck of it, like playing the lottery.

well you do realize that your list is mighty difficult to get into, even without Harvard?

you should consider anything in the top tier, top half.

not whether the 'night life' will be up to your expectations. law schools can vary in quality drastically even in one city or area, and it generally has nothing to do with how 'cool' the area is|

I think more supreme court judges have been products of Stanford than any other law school (Berkeley's within 100 miles, by the way) and I think our school is highly rated. Great location, yes, but I wouldn't say you're likely to "enjoy" yourself here. All you do is study.

I would obviously advice you to, if not previously done so, seek an American Studies academic advisor/counselor. A friend of mine recently transferred smoothly to the UoC at U.C from the Uni. Nottingham. Mind you that the universities aforementioned are very hard to get into and very expensive; that however is outweighted by the benefits of studying in a prestigious institution like Harvard, Columbia and Northwestern.

To say, however, that all which drives you is obtaining a silly stamp for your business card or obtaining another 'trophy' will distance yourself from a vast majority, who approach such opportunities with greater awareness of how fortunate they are of obtaining that education. Perhaps the paradigm varies from culture to culture , but from what you've written I can only picture you as the hopeless kid from 'rushmore'

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