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Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-24-2008 09:10:

Curious About A Problem With My CDJ 1000's, HELP!!!!

So the last couple of weeks I have been receiving error messages in the middle of my sets, in the middle of songs. There is no warning or reason to expect it to happen, and there has been no consistency with the songs doing it, the cd's, or anything else. I have tried playing the cd's on my computer and they work fine and on my hi fi system. This is really horrible because I play out frequently and obviously cannot do so with this bs happening.

I already emailed Pioneer and hopefully they have an answer for me or something, but I just wanted to know if anyone else has had this happen and also if anyone knows any possible causes for it.

The error code that comes up is E-8304. I appreciate any help anyone can throw me here I need to get my sanity back!

-Michael


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-24-2008 09:14:

Also I already googled the error and know what it says about that but let me reiterate that the songs play and in the middle of them they just stop and the error code pops up. These are tracks bought directly from beatport, not encoded by me, and I always burn at 12x. Just some more info for anyone trying to help.


Posted by cmay119 on Sep-24-2008 09:51:

The CD's aren't scratched are they? How long have you had your CDJ's for? Try a Lens cleaner disk.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-24-2008 11:50:

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119
The CD's aren't scratched are they? How long have you had your CDJ's for? Try a Lens cleaner disk.


Its not the cds as ive said I have reburned the cds, I've tried practically everything and it just doesn't make any sense.

I've had my decks since the 5th of July.

I do always play with them in my flight case just because the angles are better for my back, etc. Heat could not be a factor could it?


Posted by Ryan0751 on Sep-24-2008 13:34:

Heat COULD be a factor. The 1000's don't get terribly hot though, and lots of people run them in cases.

It's on BOTH decks? That would rule out that one is "broken", as it's unlikely they are BOTH "broken".

You might want to try some other media. Also, on some of the newer burners burning at slower than the "optimal" speed can actually CAUSE problems. The whole "burn it slower and it'll be more reliable" isn't really the case with modern burners.

Maybe try playing some commercially pressed CD's?


Posted by Ryan0751 on Sep-24-2008 13:36:

Oh, absolutely DO NOT use a lens cleaner disc, particularly in the CDJ's. It says it right in the manual NOT to use these.

A. They don't work.
B. CDJ's spin the discs much faster than a regular CD player, and the lens disc could damage the player.

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119
The CD's aren't scratched are they? How long have you had your CDJ's for? Try a Lens cleaner disk.


Posted by epdarks on Sep-24-2008 16:52:

Firmware updated?

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/s...CDJ1000MK3.html


Posted by elFreak on Sep-24-2008 17:33:

how old are they?


Posted by JD8180 on Sep-24-2008 18:09:

did you buy them new or used?


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-24-2008 18:23:

Man all i can tell you is that its expensive to fix a fucking cdj. When mine broke it was 400 bucks to fix :x


Posted by Ryan0751 on Sep-24-2008 18:29:

And Pioneers service department is terrible


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-25-2008 00:11:

Well I now know that its happening at certain points in certain songs. It is NOT random like I thought.

I was burning at 52x when I first got them and had small problems from time to time so I now burn at 12x, through itunes.

I got them in early July.

I received an email back from pioneer and they said if its not a media problem that it's the laser that has an issue.

But my new predicament is this. If it's doing it on the same tracks over and over it lessens the likelihood of it being a cdj problem. The thing I cannot wrap my head around is how in the hell these cds play 100% fine in my laptop but then on the cdjs error codes are coming up. It should be the other way around naturally right? Aren't the cdjs superior to computer drives?


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-25-2008 00:14:

To answer a couple more of the questions here, I bought them new.

Also, my firmware is at 2.20 so it's up to date.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-25-2008 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
To answer a couple more of the questions here, I bought them new.

Also, my firmware is at 2.20 so it's up to date.
How old are they?


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 00:38:

could it be the shit DRM with itunes?

i never bought my music off them , but i was under the impression you could only play it on apple products or your computer.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-25-2008 01:23:

I don't buy my music from itunes. Beatport only. I only burn through itunes.

And for the other person I have answered when I got them several times in this thread.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-25-2008 01:29:

Even worse news.

One of the tracks that popped an error message last thursday when I was playing out now works fine. Here Im thinking well I can just play around the songs that don't work but now this dilemma of no consistency with playing and not playing tracks really doesn't even allow me to play out until this is fixed.


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-25-2008 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
Even worse news.

One of the tracks that popped an error message last thursday when I was playing out now works fine. Here Im thinking well I can just play around the songs that don't work but now this dilemma of no consistency with playing and not playing tracks really doesn't even allow me to play out until this is fixed.


First try using a different burning program (toast, nero etc.)

What are number the error messages. Most of the relate to "bad media" codes which actually doesn't help as in some cases it has nothing to do with media and means that you have a problem with the laser transport.

Do you get error messages with commercially produced CD's - if none at all (ever) then you know it's a media/burning issue. If you get it with retail CD's then you know the CDJ is screwed.


Posted by miamitranceman on Sep-25-2008 03:38:

Where did you buy them? (Like somewhere shady on eBay?)


Posted by mfitterer1 on Sep-25-2008 04:01:

I dont have commercial cds so I cannot test using that medium. I buy everything digitally.

I bought them at guitar center.


Posted by tubby on Sep-25-2008 04:24:

3 months old - take them back for a look. sounds like they're unreliable to gig on anyway so not having them for a couple of weeks is probablyt wort the wait


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-25-2008 04:41:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
I dont have commercial cds so I cannot test using that medium. I buy everything digitally.

I bought them at guitar center.


Borrow some and try them. It could easily be a problem with your burning process.


Posted by elFreak on Sep-25-2008 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
I don't buy my music from itunes. Beatport only. I only burn through itunes.

And for the other person I have answered when I got them several times in this thread.


my bad, i misread your post.


Posted by Digital MaFia on Sep-25-2008 12:42:

Although its unlikely, dont rule out that the problem may be overheating - the club i play at have fans on the back of the cdj1000's to keep them cool - they overheated once during my set, bringing up an error code (& stopping the music argh!), hence the fans being installed. Perhaps you should try them without the cases? Either way id definitely try a different burner...hope you get it sorted


Posted by n3lly on Sep-25-2008 20:17:

New media (eg. new cdrs)

New burning program (anything but itunes)

And that should do the trick to see if it is a media problem.

Buy some new cdrs though would be my first bet. Then different burning program.

If the same problems keep popping up, bring 'em back.


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