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Posted by EclipseUK on Sep-24-2008 20:34:

Pro producers that use FL studio

Hi Guy's

Im sure I read a post on here recently that mentioned a few pro producers that us FL studio, but I can't for the life of me find the post, even through the search feature on the site.

Anyway, do you guy's know of any pro producers that use FL, because I would like to look them up on the web for some inspiration as I use FL, and I would like to hear what pro's are doing with it.

Cheers

Steve


Posted by jupiterone on Sep-24-2008 20:36:

benga


Posted by Jason_R on Sep-24-2008 20:55:

deadmau5 was or still is a Flstudio User (Think he may have switched though) Appears it for quick loops ect then into live for the mix.

http://www.flstudio.com/documents/deadmau5.html
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeUM...feature=related

Mike Oldfield was another one that used flstudio

http://www.flstudio.com/documents/mikeoldfield.html

Hard dance man Teknical also use flstudio but I hear he has since moved over to cubase.

It seems that most professional users of Fl studio use it for loops and drums ect and then the main mix down is performed in another sequencer. Don't that let put you off though as it's more than possible to create a professional track with this program.

It does have it's limitations and some internal plugings and synths are a joke however you need to assess if these issues ffrect you.

I love flstudio to bits but I've had enough of the mixer, no decent quad core support and most of all no pdc which they confirmed will not be fixed.

Just look for inspiration from your usual sources and try to re create it in flstudio. n


Posted by adi_hanson on Sep-24-2008 22:36:

The FLstudio website has a load of artist comendations , but in all fairness , other than the equipment or software that you using, dont give away your sequencer.

FL seems to have a hardcore hate following across the internet in all genres , not just here.

As has said before , the inbuilt things are pretty much useless in a pro production.

But dont worry ,as much rubbish is created in cubase , sonar , logic or whatever than in FL.

just make the music , get it sounding good and i and most other people wont care how you sequenced it.


Posted by Owsey on Sep-24-2008 22:46:

Re: Pro producers that use FL studio

quote:
Originally posted by EclipseUK
I use FL, and I would like to hear what pro's are doing with it.


Not much more than what they could do in any other sequencer. A sequencer is a matter of personal opinion dude


Posted by davidbuhau on Sep-24-2008 23:00:

some of the built in stuff in fl is pretty good actually. the love filter is awesome, as is delay bank... and i have many filters but i still use fruity free filter for most of my music.

the sequencer war rages on... but who cares?


david


Posted by cybernetica on Sep-25-2008 00:06:

Its all about the good VSTs in the end, and these can be used in pretty much any sequencer. What remains is performance, interface, workflow... and arguing about that is pointless because everyone has his own different opinion.
But no sequencer alone will make your sound quality better or worse.
Its really just a matter of taste, what you like or dislike.

btw, I just got to say it even though its offtopic, the IL Maximus included in FL is damn amazing!

As for artists, I can think of 2 'pros' right now using FL, namely Spor (DnB) and Electrypnose (Psy - though I am not sure if he still uses it)... and a lot of professional Psy producers use FL rewired into Cubase. FL gets a lot of hate really but I guess thats mostly for the gui design and the image of a "noob program".


Posted by Theran on Sep-25-2008 09:24:

Breakfast (Flashover Recordings) is also using FL.


Posted by kitphillips on Sep-25-2008 11:21:

hmmm breakfast Going to see him next week...
It really is all about the VSTs, but FL is missing PDC and multi core and a few other things. not really show stopping stuff if your just starting out and already have it/got a good deal...


Posted by echosystm on Sep-25-2008 12:25:

FL is a more than capable DAW. I just do a lot of FL hating because I am an ex-FL user and got pissed off by the developers attitudes towards sidechaining, auto PDC, multicore support, etc. In my oppinion, those guys really are milking their user's low level of knowledge; by ignoring such critical features and developing flashy new (shit house) built in plugins to woo new users.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Sep-25-2008 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
FL is a more than capable DAW. I just do a lot of FL hating because I am an ex-FL user and got pissed off by the developers attitudes towards sidechaining, auto PDC, multicore support, etc. In my oppinion, those guys really are milking their user's low level of knowledge; by ignoring such critical features and developing flashy new (shit house) built in plugins to woo new users.



Ditto, jumped ship a few months back, these little gripes really piss you off


Posted by alanzo on Sep-25-2008 13:28:

I tried FL Studio for a project a few weeks ago. It was pretty easy to jump into.

The latest version of the Virus TI software won't work with FL Studio 8. I think it works with 7. But even when it does work, it won't sync with the rest of the track. In general, FL's support for external instruments is quite poor.

As everyone said, the included plugins are quite nice. They certainly beat the shit out of what comes with Cubase SX 3. The automation is quite nice, too. And I liked how it handled WAV files (I'm sure I would have loved the fruity slicer if I needed it).

But regardless of what everyone says, what DAW you use *WILL* effect your sound. Not directly of course, but every decision you make while producing a track is dictated by your environment. But that will be different for each person... which is why picking the right software for YOU is what's important.


Posted by G-Con on Sep-25-2008 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
But regardless of what everyone says, what DAW you use *WILL* effect your sound. Not directly of course, but every decision you make while producing a track is dictated by your environment.


Yes but how it affects your sound will be different for every individual, so no comparison can be made from what one producer uses to another as it means absolutely nothing to anyone but the individual..


Posted by Vortex_SA on Sep-25-2008 14:44:

close your eyes once in a while and concentrate only in the music, helps me a lot, instead of staring at the meters move checking peaks and such... just listen... I feel it lets me disconnect my environment...


Posted by airwalker1 on Sep-25-2008 14:49:

bt,gyver all use fl personly fl works for me and fucks me of at the same time ans so i think a combiend use of diffrent programs seems best.


Posted by david.michael on Sep-25-2008 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by airwalker1
bt


What, pray tell, is your source for that?


Posted by jupiterone on Sep-25-2008 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
What, pray tell, is your source for that?


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Posted by alanzo on Sep-25-2008 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Yes but how it affects your sound will be different for every individual, so no comparison can be made from what one producer uses to another as it means absolutely nothing to anyone but the individual..


You are correct, sir. I'm glad we were able to come to an agreement most sensibly.

Edit:
But regardless of what everyone says, what DAW you use *WILL* effect your sound. Not directly of course, but every decision you make while producing a track is dictated by your environment. But that will be different for each person... which is why picking the right software for YOU is what's important.


Posted by a98 on Sep-25-2008 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
The latest version of the Virus TI software won't work with FL Studio 8.


it worked just fine for me


Posted by psymon.d on Sep-26-2008 02:59:

quote:
Originally posted by a98
it worked just fine for me


latency issues for me. the PDC integrated (as already stated in this thread) simply isn't up to par, nor is the CPU usage (also previously stated), though I have released a few tracks with a variety of labels using FL as the sequencer...meaning I can't complain too much about it

Maor Levi also


Posted by a98 on Sep-26-2008 07:54:

quote:
Originally posted by psymon.d
latency issues for me.


well as far as i have understood, there's a few ms delay in virus ti regardless of the sequencer used.


Posted by airwalker1 on Sep-27-2008 11:56:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
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Posted by kitphillips on Sep-27-2008 12:33:

quote:
Originally posted by a98
well as far as i have understood, there's a few ms delay in virus ti regardless of the sequencer used.

Yeah, but most DAWs would compensate for this by playing everything else a little bit behind the time as well. Thats why its delay compensation Virus is notoriously finicky though, I'm probably going to buy one in the next six months


Posted by a98 on Sep-27-2008 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Yeah, but most DAWs would compensate for this by playing everything else a little bit behind the time as well.


there's a latecy compensation for individual mixer tracks in the latest FL aswell.

besides, if you're gonna export everything to audio (as most people do with hardware), the latency doesn't matter.
and you can always throw the vsti plugin out and do it in the old fashion way with midi and audio cables


Posted by kitphillips on Sep-27-2008 13:18:

So FL compensates automatically now? Or do you set that yourself? I know Live's got a manual track delay in the mixer, but I usually just adjust the start position of the clip itself, so you can see the hit on the waveform.

If you exported the virus control to audio, wouldn't that audio be out of time, since its just a reflection of the MIDI? You'd still have to apply the track delay or move the start point of the clip I think.

Latency is the bane of my existence, because my soundcard doesn't report it properly, so I had months where I couldn't work out why my vocals sounded lazy before working out they were actually a full 16th slow


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